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[BirKibrisli]

... They were young TC students studying in Turkey,given a 3 week crash course in handling weapons and deposited in the kokkina area....

If you don't think that was long enough to do you justice in their attempted invasion of Cyprus, take it up with Turkey! But "students" they were NOT, by any stretch of credibility, when they attacked Cyprus. So, stop trying to excuse Turkey's belligerence.

However, their poor training techniques may go some way to explaining your troops general inability to follow Geneva conventions and instead go with their bloodthirsty preference for shooting of POWs, raping anyone weaker and mass slaughter of everyone else in their path.

Again,you are picking a sentence from here and there to launch your endless tirades against your "enemy"...

They were young TC students studying in Turkey,given a 3 week crash course in handling weapons and deposited in the kokkina area,God knows for what reason...(My belief is that Inonu who was then PM wanted them off the streets as they were protesting daily about their families being in danger of being massacred by the GCs)...3 of them were my first cousins...Another one is now my brother -in-law...The Uncle of Ozdil Nami,Talat's present chief negotiator (also called Ozdil Nami) died there...They are our family friends....You are in total denial of the facts because you do not want to even consider that the GCs could ahve possibly done anything wrong in this conflict..it doesnt fit in with your sick mind's narrative...

Where did I say to you that I was ill???When did I ask your forgiveness???
You are really deluded,past the point of any help...I feel sorry for you...But I can't help you unless you want to be helped...I repeat,letting off steam on this Forum is no substitute for professional therapy...Do yourself and us a favour,get some soon....

Now please go back and digest what I said...
They were students studying in various Turkish cities...when the troubles began they started agitating,making protests in the streets,to get Turkey to intervine and save their families from what they thought was an imminent GC slaughter...You can call them soldiers if that suits your purpose...As far as I am concerned,and I know at least 6 of them personally,and Deniz knows some of them too,they were hapless students deposited in the most isolated area of Cyprus for no known reason or motive...They were quickly surrounded by the GC militia,and were in no position to do any harm to anyone...There was no need for the all out assault to wipe them out....The only reason they were attacked was they were TCs, and because the GCs believed they could capture and kill them all before Turkey had a chance to intervene....Your mind would of course refuse to accept this...I dont know why i keep trying to shed some light into it...

[DT.]

... They were young TC students studying in Turkey,given a 3 week crash course in handling weapons and deposited in the kokkina area....

If you don't think that was long enough to do you justice in their attempted invasion of Cyprus, take it up with Turkey! But "students" they were NOT, by any stretch of credibility, when they attacked Cyprus. So, stop trying to excuse Turkey's belligerence.

However, their poor training techniques may go some way to explaining your troops general inability to follow Geneva conventions and instead go with their bloodthirsty preference for shooting of POWs, raping anyone weaker and mass slaughter of everyone else in their path.

Again,you are picking a sentence from here and there to launch your endless tirades against your "enemy"...

They were young TC students studying in Turkey,given a 3 week crash course in handling weapons and deposited in the kokkina area,God knows for what reason...(My belief is that Inonu who was then PM wanted them off the streets as they were protesting daily about their families being in danger of being massacred by the GCs)...3 of them were my first cousins...Another one is now my brother -in-law...The Uncle of Ozdil Nami,Talat's present chief negotiator (also called Ozdil Nami) died there...They are our family friends....You are in total denial of the facts because you do not want to even consider that the GCs could ahve possibly done anything wrong in this conflict..it doesnt fit in with your sick mind's narrative...

Where did I say to you that I was ill???When did I ask your forgiveness???
You are really deluded,past the point of any help...I feel sorry for you...But I can't help you unless you want to be helped...I repeat,letting off steam on this Forum is no substitute for professional therapy...Do yourself and us a favour,get some soon....

Now please go back and digest what I said...
They were students studying in various Turkish cities...when the troubles began they started agitating,making protests in the streets,to get Turkey to intervine and save their families from what they thought was an imminent GC slaughter...You can call them soldiers if that suits your purpose...As far as I am concerned,and I know at least 6 of them personally,and Deniz knows some of them too,they were hapless students deposited in the most isolated area of Cyprus for no known reason or motive...They were quickly surrounded by the GC militia,and were in no position to do any harm to anyone...There was no need for the all out assault to wipe them out....The only reason they were attacked was they were TCs, and because the GCs believed they could capture and kill them all before Turkey had a chance to intervene....Your mind would of course refuse to accept this...I dont know why i keep trying to shed some light into it...

Bir, I know you're fairer than that.

Why not mention that Kokkina was the primary arms entry post from Turkey for the TMT?

[YFred]

... They were young TC students studying in Turkey,given a 3 week crash course in handling weapons and deposited in the kokkina area....

If you don't think that was long enough to do you justice in their attempted invasion of Cyprus, take it up with Turkey! But "students" they were NOT, by any stretch of credibility, when they attacked Cyprus. So, stop trying to excuse Turkey's belligerence.

However, their poor training techniques may go some way to explaining your troops general inability to follow Geneva conventions and instead go with their bloodthirsty preference for shooting of POWs, raping anyone weaker and mass slaughter of everyone else in their path.

Again,you are picking a sentence from here and there to launch your endless tirades against your "enemy"...

They were young TC students studying in Turkey,given a 3 week crash course in handling weapons and deposited in the kokkina area,God knows for what reason...(My belief is that Inonu who was then PM wanted them off the streets as they were protesting daily about their families being in danger of being massacred by the GCs)...3 of them were my first cousins...Another one is now my brother -in-law...The Uncle of Ozdil Nami,Talat's present chief negotiator (also called Ozdil Nami) died there...They are our family friends....You are in total denial of the facts because you do not want to even consider that the GCs could ahve possibly done anything wrong in this conflict..it doesnt fit in with your sick mind's narrative...

Where did I say to you that I was ill???When did I ask your forgiveness???
You are really deluded,past the point of any help...I feel sorry for you...But I can't help you unless you want to be helped...I repeat,letting off steam on this Forum is no substitute for professional therapy...Do yourself and us a favour,get some soon....

Now please go back and digest what I said...
They were students studying in various Turkish cities...when the troubles began they started agitating,making protests in the streets,to get Turkey to intervine and save their families from what they thought was an imminent GC slaughter...You can call them soldiers if that suits your purpose...As far as I am concerned,and I know at least 6 of them personally,and Deniz knows some of them too,they were hapless students deposited in the most isolated area of Cyprus for no known reason or motive...They were quickly surrounded by the GC militia,and were in no position to do any harm to anyone...There was no need for the all out assault to wipe them out....The only reason they were attacked was they were TCs, and because the GCs believed they could capture and kill them all before Turkey had a chance to intervene....Your mind would of course refuse to accept this...I dont know why i keep trying to shed some light into it...

Bir, I know you're fairer than that.

Why not mention that Kokkina was the primary arms entry post from Turkey for the TMT?

So what, how did eoka get theirs, why pick on one if you are fair?

[YFred]

... They were young TC students studying in Turkey,given a 3 week crash course in handling weapons and deposited in the kokkina area....

If you don't think that was long enough to do you justice in their attempted invasion of Cyprus, take it up with Turkey! But "students" they were NOT, by any stretch of credibility, when they attacked Cyprus. So, stop trying to excuse Turkey's belligerence.

However, their poor training techniques may go some way to explaining your troops general inability to follow Geneva conventions and instead go with their bloodthirsty preference for shooting of POWs, raping anyone weaker and mass slaughter of everyone else in their path.

Again,you are picking a sentence from here and there to launch your endless tirades against your "enemy"...

They were young TC students studying in Turkey,given a 3 week crash course in handling weapons and deposited in the kokkina area,God knows for what reason...(My belief is that Inonu who was then PM wanted them off the streets as they were protesting daily about their families being in danger of being massacred by the GCs)...3 of them were my first cousins...Another one is now my brother -in-law...The Uncle of Ozdil Nami,Talat's present chief negotiator (also called Ozdil Nami) died there...They are our family friends....You are in total denial of the facts because you do not want to even consider that the GCs could ahve possibly done anything wrong in this conflict..it doesnt fit in with your sick mind's narrative...

Where did I say to you that I was ill???When did I ask your forgiveness???
You are really deluded,past the point of any help...I feel sorry for you...But I can't help you unless you want to be helped...I repeat,letting off steam on this Forum is no substitute for professional therapy...Do yourself and us a favour,get some soon....

Now please go back and digest what I said...
They were students studying in various Turkish cities...when the troubles began they started agitating,making protests in the streets,to get Turkey to intervine and save their families from what they thought was an imminent GC slaughter...You can call them soldiers if that suits your purpose...As far as I am concerned,and I know at least 6 of them personally,and Deniz knows some of them too,they were hapless students deposited in the most isolated area of Cyprus for no known reason or motive...They were quickly surrounded by the GC militia,and were in no position to do any harm to anyone...There was no need for the all out assault to wipe them out....The only reason they were attacked was they were TCs, and because the GCs believed they could capture and kill them all before Turkey had a chance to intervene....Your mind would of course refuse to accept this...I dont know why i keep trying to shed some light into it...

Bir, shedding light on the blind is not an easy matter, perhaps we should take up brail?

[DT.]

... They were young TC students studying in Turkey,given a 3 week crash course in handling weapons and deposited in the kokkina area....

If you don't think that was long enough to do you justice in their attempted invasion of Cyprus, take it up with Turkey! But "students" they were NOT, by any stretch of credibility, when they attacked Cyprus. So, stop trying to excuse Turkey's belligerence.

However, their poor training techniques may go some way to explaining your troops general inability to follow Geneva conventions and instead go with their bloodthirsty preference for shooting of POWs, raping anyone weaker and mass slaughter of everyone else in their path.

Again,you are picking a sentence from here and there to launch your endless tirades against your "enemy"...

They were young TC students studying in Turkey,given a 3 week crash course in handling weapons and deposited in the kokkina area,God knows for what reason...(My belief is that Inonu who was then PM wanted them off the streets as they were protesting daily about their families being in danger of being massacred by the GCs)...3 of them were my first cousins...Another one is now my brother -in-law...The Uncle of Ozdil Nami,Talat's present chief negotiator (also called Ozdil Nami) died there...They are our family friends....You are in total denial of the facts because you do not want to even consider that the GCs could ahve possibly done anything wrong in this conflict..it doesnt fit in with your sick mind's narrative...

Where did I say to you that I was ill???When did I ask your forgiveness???
You are really deluded,past the point of any help...I feel sorry for you...But I can't help you unless you want to be helped...I repeat,letting off steam on this Forum is no substitute for professional therapy...Do yourself and us a favour,get some soon....

Now please go back and digest what I said...
They were students studying in various Turkish cities...when the troubles began they started agitating,making protests in the streets,to get Turkey to intervine and save their families from what they thought was an imminent GC slaughter...You can call them soldiers if that suits your purpose...As far as I am concerned,and I know at least 6 of them personally,and Deniz knows some of them too,they were hapless students deposited in the most isolated area of Cyprus for no known reason or motive...They were quickly surrounded by the GC militia,and were in no position to do any harm to anyone...There was no need for the all out assault to wipe them out....The only reason they were attacked was they were TCs, and because the GCs believed they could capture and kill them all before Turkey had a chance to intervene....Your mind would of course refuse to accept this...I dont know why i keep trying to shed some light into it...

Bir, I know you're fairer than that.

Why not mention that Kokkina was the primary arms entry post from Turkey for the TMT?

So what, how did eoka get theirs, why pick on one if you are fair?

EOKA B (not eoka) got their weaponry from greece, and I pray to god someone had stopped them. Unlike you sitting here defending the tmt arms suppliers.

[YFred]

... They were young TC students studying in Turkey,given a 3 week crash course in handling weapons and deposited in the kokkina area....

If you don't think that was long enough to do you justice in their attempted invasion of Cyprus, take it up with Turkey! But "students" they were NOT, by any stretch of credibility, when they attacked Cyprus. So, stop trying to excuse Turkey's belligerence.

However, their poor training techniques may go some way to explaining your troops general inability to follow Geneva conventions and instead go with their bloodthirsty preference for shooting of POWs, raping anyone weaker and mass slaughter of everyone else in their path.

Again,you are picking a sentence from here and there to launch your endless tirades against your "enemy"...

They were young TC students studying in Turkey,given a 3 week crash course in handling weapons and deposited in the kokkina area,God knows for what reason...(My belief is that Inonu who was then PM wanted them off the streets as they were protesting daily about their families being in danger of being massacred by the GCs)...3 of them were my first cousins...Another one is now my brother -in-law...The Uncle of Ozdil Nami,Talat's present chief negotiator (also called Ozdil Nami) died there...They are our family friends....You are in total denial of the facts because you do not want to even consider that the GCs could ahve possibly done anything wrong in this conflict..it doesnt fit in with your sick mind's narrative...

Where did I say to you that I was ill???When did I ask your forgiveness???
You are really deluded,past the point of any help...I feel sorry for you...But I can't help you unless you want to be helped...I repeat,letting off steam on this Forum is no substitute for professional therapy...Do yourself and us a favour,get some soon....

Now please go back and digest what I said...
They were students studying in various Turkish cities...when the troubles began they started agitating,making protests in the streets,to get Turkey to intervine and save their families from what they thought was an imminent GC slaughter...You can call them soldiers if that suits your purpose...As far as I am concerned,and I know at least 6 of them personally,and Deniz knows some of them too,they were hapless students deposited in the most isolated area of Cyprus for no known reason or motive...They were quickly surrounded by the GC militia,and were in no position to do any harm to anyone...There was no need for the all out assault to wipe them out....The only reason they were attacked was they were TCs, and because the GCs believed they could capture and kill them all before Turkey had a chance to intervene....Your mind would of course refuse to accept this...I dont know why i keep trying to shed some light into it...

Bir, I know you're fairer than that.

Why not mention that Kokkina was the primary arms entry post from Turkey for the TMT?

So what, how did eoka get theirs, why pick on one if you are fair?

EOKA B (not eoka) got their weaponry from greece, and I pray to god someone had stopped them. Unlike you sitting here defending the tmt arms suppliers.

Wing and a prayer. If eoka were unable to be armed, then I would also pray to god that TMT were not armed. But as the roc was in control of the government and the ports, its not god you should be praying for, it's your beloved true democratic and legally recognised just roc.
But never mind hey, there is always a next time.
BTW eoka has been there since the 50's and will be there for some time yet.
Did B stand for Bastards. That's what I always thought.

[Oracle]

... They were young TC students studying in Turkey,given a 3 week crash course in handling weapons and deposited in the kokkina area....

If you don't think that was long enough to do you justice in their attempted invasion of Cyprus, take it up with Turkey! But "students" they were NOT, by any stretch of credibility, when they attacked Cyprus. So, stop trying to excuse Turkey's belligerence.

However, their poor training techniques may go some way to explaining your troops general inability to follow Geneva conventions and instead go with their bloodthirsty preference for shooting of POWs, raping anyone weaker and mass slaughter of everyone else in their path.

Again,you are picking a sentence from here and there to launch your endless tirades against your "enemy"...

That was rather a significant sentence. Short and "sweet". Therein lay the reason why you cannot brand those soldiers as "students". It should have signified the end of the discussion as it pointed out your fallacious thinking and euphemistic excuses in support of Turkey's actions. But you are now trying to wriggle your way out.

[BirKibrisli]

... They were young TC students studying in Turkey,given a 3 week crash course in handling weapons and deposited in the kokkina area....

If you don't think that was long enough to do you justice in their attempted invasion of Cyprus, take it up with Turkey! But "students" they were NOT, by any stretch of credibility, when they attacked Cyprus. So, stop trying to excuse Turkey's belligerence.

However, their poor training techniques may go some way to explaining your troops general inability to follow Geneva conventions and instead go with their bloodthirsty preference for shooting of POWs, raping anyone weaker and mass slaughter of everyone else in their path.

Again,you are picking a sentence from here and there to launch your endless tirades against your "enemy"...

They were young TC students studying in Turkey,given a 3 week crash course in handling weapons and deposited in the kokkina area,God knows for what reason...(My belief is that Inonu who was then PM wanted them off the streets as they were protesting daily about their families being in danger of being massacred by the GCs)...3 of them were my first cousins...Another one is now my brother -in-law...The Uncle of Ozdil Nami,Talat's present chief negotiator (also called Ozdil Nami) died there...They are our family friends....You are in total denial of the facts because you do not want to even consider that the GCs could ahve possibly done anything wrong in this conflict..it doesnt fit in with your sick mind's narrative...

Where did I say to you that I was ill???When did I ask your forgiveness???
You are really deluded,past the point of any help...I feel sorry for you...But I can't help you unless you want to be helped...I repeat,letting off steam on this Forum is no substitute for professional therapy...Do yourself and us a favour,get some soon....

Now please go back and digest what I said...
They were students studying in various Turkish cities...when the troubles began they started agitating,making protests in the streets,to get Turkey to intervine and save their families from what they thought was an imminent GC slaughter...You can call them soldiers if that suits your purpose...As far as I am concerned,and I know at least 6 of them personally,and Deniz knows some of them too,they were hapless students deposited in the most isolated area of Cyprus for no known reason or motive...They were quickly surrounded by the GC militia,and were in no position to do any harm to anyone...There was no need for the all out assault to wipe them out....The only reason they were attacked was they were TCs, and because the GCs believed they could capture and kill them all before Turkey had a chance to intervene....Your mind would of course refuse to accept this...I dont know why i keep trying to shed some light into it...

Bir, I know you're fairer than that.

Why not mention that Kokkina was the primary arms entry post from Turkey for the TMT?

Because we were not talking about arms smuggling,DT...
That is an entirely different matter...If the intention was to smuggle arms,they wouldn't have deposited those poor student-soldiers (there I made a concession for you ) and draw the entire GC militia to that area...
Now you tell me,if you thought you were in immediate danger of being massacred by a far superior militia both in numbers and weapons,would you not try to arm yourself as best you can???

I understand that the GCs needed to make sure these people did not go far...But why did they have to attack them in order to annihilate them???
And why deny the link between the GC attack on kokkina and the Turkish napalms???? this is what gets my back up with Oracle...She is sooo selective about what she sees let alone admits....Her bias and prejudice and distain for the Turks-Tcs know no bounds...This is no way to start a dialogue which might lead to mutual understanding,trust and respect...It shuts all the doors before anything has a chance to develop...And that makes me suspect her motives and those of Piratis,as he too keep on selectively reciting all the Turkish-TC wrongs...They must realise this will lead to an impass and not a solution...But they keep doing it..So what am I to assume???

[Oracle]

... They were young TC students studying in Turkey,given a 3 week crash course in handling weapons and deposited in the kokkina area....

If you don't think that was long enough to do you justice in their attempted invasion of Cyprus, take it up with Turkey! But "students" they were NOT, by any stretch of credibility, when they attacked Cyprus. So, stop trying to excuse Turkey's belligerence.

However, their poor training techniques may go some way to explaining your troops general inability to follow Geneva conventions and instead go with their bloodthirsty preference for shooting of POWs, raping anyone weaker and mass slaughter of everyone else in their path.

Again,you are picking a sentence from here and there to launch your endless tirades against your "enemy"...

They were young TC students studying in Turkey,given a 3 week crash course in handling weapons and deposited in the kokkina area,God knows for what reason...(My belief is that Inonu who was then PM wanted them off the streets as they were protesting daily about their families being in danger of being massacred by the GCs)...3 of them were my first cousins...Another one is now my brother -in-law...The Uncle of Ozdil Nami,Talat's present chief negotiator (also called Ozdil Nami) died there...They are our family friends....You are in total denial of the facts because you do not want to even consider that the GCs could ahve possibly done anything wrong in this conflict..it doesnt fit in with your sick mind's narrative...

Where did I say to you that I was ill???When did I ask your forgiveness???
You are really deluded,past the point of any help...I feel sorry for you...But I can't help you unless you want to be helped...I repeat,letting off steam on this Forum is no substitute for professional therapy...Do yourself and us a favour,get some soon....

Now please go back and digest what I said...
They were students studying in various Turkish cities...when the troubles began they started agitating,making protests in the streets,to get Turkey to intervine and save their families from what they thought was an imminent GC slaughter...You can call them soldiers if that suits your purpose...As far as I am concerned,and I know at least 6 of them personally,and Deniz knows some of them too,they were hapless students deposited in the most isolated area of Cyprus for no known reason or motive...They were quickly surrounded by the GC militia,and were in no position to do any harm to anyone...There was no need for the all out assault to wipe them out....The only reason they were attacked was they were TCs, and because the GCs believed they could capture and kill them all before Turkey had a chance to intervene....Your mind would of course refuse to accept this...I dont know why i keep trying to shed some light into it...

Bir, I know you're fairer than that.

Why not mention that Kokkina was the primary arms entry post from Turkey for the TMT?

Because we were not talking about arms smuggling,DT...
That is an entirely different matter...If the intention was to smuggle arms,they wouldn't have deposited those poor student-soldiers (there I made a concession for you ) and draw the entire GC militia to that area...
Now you tell me,if you thought you were in immediate danger of being massacred by a far superior militia both in numbers and weapons,would you not try to arm yourself as best you can???

I understand that the GCs needed to make sure these people did not go far...But why did they have to attack them in order to annihilate them???
And why deny the link between the GC attack on kokkina and the Turkish napalms???? this is what gets my back up with Oracle...She is sooo selective about what she sees let alone admits....Her bias and prejudice and distain for the Turks-Tcs know no bounds...This is no way to start a dialogue which might lead to mutual understanding,trust and respect...It shuts all the doors before anything has a chance to develop...And that makes me suspect her motives and those of Piratis,as he too keep on selectively reciting all the Turkish-TC wrongs...They must realise this will lead to an impass and not a solution...But they keep doing it..So what am I to assume???

On the contrary, you supported the use of Napalm on GCs, geographically at a great distance form this site of Turkish arms smuggling, by calling the Turkish soldiers poor "students".

In your attempts to claim Turkey had a right to introduce arms for the TMT, and complain that the Turkish soldiers should have been better trained for their own sakes, and meanwhile Turkey to Napalm and bomb GC villages to protect its invading soldiers .... you have managed to remind everyone how ingrained is Turkish nationalism for even the most (self-appointed) "benign" TC.

[BirKibrisli]

... They were young TC students studying in Turkey,given a 3 week crash course in handling weapons and deposited in the kokkina area....

If you don't think that was long enough to do you justice in their attempted invasion of Cyprus, take it up with Turkey! But "students" they were NOT, by any stretch of credibility, when they attacked Cyprus. So, stop trying to excuse Turkey's belligerence.

However, their poor training techniques may go some way to explaining your troops general inability to follow Geneva conventions and instead go with their bloodthirsty preference for shooting of POWs, raping anyone weaker and mass slaughter of everyone else in their path.

Again,you are picking a sentence from here and there to launch your endless tirades against your "enemy"...

They were young TC students studying in Turkey,given a 3 week crash course in handling weapons and deposited in the kokkina area,God knows for what reason...(My belief is that Inonu who was then PM wanted them off the streets as they were protesting daily about their families being in danger of being massacred by the GCs)...3 of them were my first cousins...Another one is now my brother -in-law...The Uncle of Ozdil Nami,Talat's present chief negotiator (also called Ozdil Nami) died there...They are our family friends....You are in total denial of the facts because you do not want to even consider that the GCs could ahve possibly done anything wrong in this conflict..it doesnt fit in with your sick mind's narrative...

Where did I say to you that I was ill???When did I ask your forgiveness???
You are really deluded,past the point of any help...I feel sorry for you...But I can't help you unless you want to be helped...I repeat,letting off steam on this Forum is no substitute for professional therapy...Do yourself and us a favour,get some soon....

Now please go back and digest what I said...
They were students studying in various Turkish cities...when the troubles began they started agitating,making protests in the streets,to get Turkey to intervine and save their families from what they thought was an imminent GC slaughter...You can call them soldiers if that suits your purpose...As far as I am concerned,and I know at least 6 of them personally,and Deniz knows some of them too,they were hapless students deposited in the most isolated area of Cyprus for no known reason or motive...They were quickly surrounded by the GC militia,and were in no position to do any harm to anyone...There was no need for the all out assault to wipe them out....The only reason they were attacked was they were TCs, and because the GCs believed they could capture and kill them all before Turkey had a chance to intervene....Your mind would of course refuse to accept this...I dont know why i keep trying to shed some light into it...

Bir, I know you're fairer than that.

Why not mention that Kokkina was the primary arms entry post from Turkey for the TMT?

Because we were not talking about arms smuggling,DT...
That is an entirely different matter...If the intention was to smuggle arms,they wouldn't have deposited those poor student-soldiers (there I made a concession for you ) and draw the entire GC militia to that area...
Now you tell me,if you thought you were in immediate danger of being massacred by a far superior militia both in numbers and weapons,would you not try to arm yourself as best you can???

I understand that the GCs needed to make sure these people did not go far...But why did they have to attack them in order to annihilate them???
And why deny the link between the GC attack on kokkina and the Turkish napalms???? this is what gets my back up with Oracle...She is sooo selective about what she sees let alone admits....Her bias and prejudice and distain for the Turks-Tcs know no bounds...This is no way to start a dialogue which might lead to mutual understanding,trust and respect...It shuts all the doors before anything has a chance to develop...And that makes me suspect her motives and those of Piratis,as he too keep on selectively reciting all the Turkish-TC wrongs...They must realise this will lead to an impass and not a solution...But they keep doing it..So what am I to assume???

On the contrary, you supported the use of Napalm on GCs, geographically at a great distance form this site of Turkish arms smuggling, by calling the Turkish soldiers poor "students".

In your attempts to claim Turkey had a right to introduce arms for the TMT, and complain that the Turkish soldiers should have been better trained for their own sakes, and meanwhile Turkey to Napalm and bomb GC villages to protect its invading soldiers .... you have managed to remind everyone how ingrained is Turkish nationalism for even the most (self-appointed) "benign" TC.

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