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[Expatkiwi]

Besides, the EU solution will logically have one official language and that will be Greek, so get ready!

If Turkey acceeds to the EU, they would be the EU's most populous country, so the most popular language in the EU would be Turkish! Somehow, I don't think you'd like that idea, Oracle...

[Expatkiwi]

yes i do i visit them in the north on a regular basis and some of them come to the south they are nice people not for partition i may add..

yes he told me he would go to jail as soon as he step foot in the north again.

well either that or because he has no Greek cypriot perants.. i think its the same for any foreigner who moves over.. if they have perants from cyprus or one perant they dont do army. i forget exactly how it is..

but your most likely right.

This is interesting, Palio. You're telling me that there is a sizeable number of Turkish Cypriots in the TRNC who do not support their state. Is this because of disgust in their government, the influx of Anatolian migrants, the Turkish military presence, belief in the 1960 partnership republic, or simply resignation that - to them - the TRNC is fated to fave into oblivion?

[paliometoxo]

yes i do i visit them in the north on a regular basis and some of them come to the south they are nice people not for partition i may add..

yes he told me he would go to jail as soon as he step foot in the north again.

well either that or because he has no Greek cypriot perants.. i think its the same for any foreigner who moves over.. if they have perants from cyprus or one perant they dont do army. i forget exactly how it is..

but your most likely right.

This is interesting, Palio. You're telling me that there is a sizeable number of Turkish Cypriots in the TRNC who do not support their state. Is this because of disgust in their government, the influx of Anatolian migrants, the Turkish military presence, belief in the 1960 partnership republic, or simply resignation that - to them - the TRNC is fated to fave into oblivion?

well i have seen it on this forum to.. a number who would rather no turkish army and re unified land.. infact many tcs put graffiti against the turks and they where taken away a turkish guy held the greek flag while drunk also many incidence..

i think a few of my friends hate the turkish settlers more i know one of them wants to re unite hes always coming into the south.. but the others im not so sure i think they hate the army and the settlers more then the illigal state

[Get Real!]

Stories I kept hearing was the difficulties TCs have when trying to do things in the south even though RoC was supposed to operate in 3 languages. Tks for insight. Maybe they're not as bigoted in the South as I'd assumed, and are keen to learn from the culture of their neighbours?

It seems that all your Cyprus “knowledge” comes from stuff you “keep hearing”!

Maybe you should have those voices checked!

Nothing wrong with admitting you don't know everything.

"From error to error one discovers the entire truth." Freud.

I'm sure that was intended for scientists like himself, but in your case let's start with a basic map of the Mediterranean...

[repulsewarrior]

NICOSIA – The Turkish Cypriot Teachers Union (KTOS) has announced it will begin to offer Greek language lessons from January 2010.
Union President Antnan Eraslan said the classes would be open to all teachers and other Turkish Cypriots who wish to participate.
The union stated that it would continue to promote activities that encourage bi- communal activities between the two communities.

nice step foward from the tcs.. but 100 dollars bet that the leaders of the trnc stop it

The only reason they are offering Greek lessons is (as I said a while back) that Greek has had a resurgence and any self-respecting school now offers Greek alongside/instead of French, Latin etc.

Besides, the EU solution will logically have one official language and that will be Greek, so get ready!

hmm i di dnot think of it like that.. but isent it greek english and turk official languages?

That was imposed upon us much like the TC Vice-President ticket and other unfair racist privileges for the TCs. A solution via the EU will take into account this unnecessary racist obligation to have Turkish and will continue to use Greek only as the ONE Official language, as they do now. Only Greek is the officially recognised language of Cyprus at EU meetings. ... no Turkish!

Of course, English is unavoidable which is fine.

But Greek has been rediscovered as an elitist language .... so we shouldn't let these Turk-speakers make us feel guilty that just because they are learning Greek to improve their prospects we should learn Turkish; because that will take us backwards and turn us into laughing stocks whilst the whole world moves forward with Greek...

...in a society such as that in Cyprus,
one would hope that their government can sustain a multi-cultural ability;
english, greek, french, turkish, why not maronite, (and armenian).
with the Information Age, we will have to learn to compete by producing the Bits and Bytes its process demands. thus, Having many (or several)
Official Languages allows a Society to increase this quantity by refining their functionality so that their usage, one with the other is transparent,
if Cypriots think futuristicly, they must prepare themselves to be functional in as many languages as possible:
this is Bicommunal
;a commitment which was made on the Principal that all men are equal, and that our equality is measured by the diversity of our traits.

...with language there is land,
and in the end: there will be National Assemblies, and enclaves spotting the entire island;
...think what we can do sustaining ourselves as Persons if instead of tearing the island into two adversarial forces,
there exists a diversity of populations within each of the elected bodies to compete for its attentions.

as a People, as Cypriots, as this island's dwellers; its Steward.
represented by a State;
one hopes that it leads in defending our Rights as Individuals, and that we emulate as people,
as a People, as equals in a fight, for these Rights and their betterment.

...since we spoke of the Armed Forces,
one would hope that there will be "Turks" as well as "Sri Lankens" in its roster, with
an ability to react quickly as a global partner,
and to contribute the acute actions that would be necessary to mitigate
the suffering caused by natural disaster and human turmoil.
poh pooh on that guy who calls himselfMuslimand doesn't wantto fight other Muslims in my Cyprus.
The enemy is: Ignorance, lawless plunder, natural disaster,
...and any interlocutor who seeks our subjugation; not "greeks" not "turks", but any body of people who dismiss the
Sovereignty of Cypriots on Cyprus.

...you guys don't seem to grasp the demographics of this island even in the medium term (90 years); forget the short term (fifty years), as the builders of a new Constitution. ...if this is the "Birth" that Mr. Talat was talking about he was not wrong...

op, english is not fine. english is the biggest threat, to the diversity of Humanity's Peoples. Greek, which is so functional as a language hopefully is experiencing a revival because with its population dwindling, relative to the total population of the earth, it will become all the more difficult to sustain. let's not forget that 90% of the world's population speaks English, but let's remember that 90% of this population has a mother tongue which is not english. ...and while ihave your attention, my dearest, i hug you and i kiss you deep, merry Christmas, i love you very much.

...please read, reread my manifesto, enclaves is not a dirty word, the population of Cyprus is 12 million.

[Expatkiwi]

GR, I think you're using the phrase "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing". Nobody can know everything, but what is enough? And is too much knowledge necessarilly good?

[paliometoxo]

GR, I think you're using the phrase "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing". Nobody can know everything, but what is enough? And is too much knowledge necessarilly good?

some would say the more the better or knowladge is power?

[Expatkiwi]

GR, I think you're using the phrase "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing". Nobody can know everything, but what is enough? And is too much knowledge necessarilly good?

some would say the more the better or knowladge is power?

Mao said that power actually came out of the barrel of a gun. I suppose that means that the only knowledge one needs is to load, aim, and fire a weapon...

[paliometoxo]

i disagree... its not that simple aim and fire? no

[FragnaticDeath]

Well paliometoxo people like Expatkiwi only know power through weapons. Thats why half of Cyprus is still occupied. But GCs on the other hand, resolve to knowledge and whats right, and our fellow TCs who don't have any knowledge on whatever matter theres out there they just keep abusing their power through turkey

Expatkiwi are you a TCs?