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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Jan 03, 2010 3:28 pm

Here is the link for further reading, as long as you can read through the haze of tobacco smoke.

http://whyquit.com/joel/joel_02_17_smoke_in_lung.html
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Jan 03, 2010 3:41 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
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Kangarooster wrote:In my humble opinion it's all cool with the smoking ban IF club/restaurant owners give smokers a place to smoke so we don't have to all stand out in the cold holding our drinks just to light one up. It doesn't have to be fighting and going to extremes, both sides, non smokers and smokers, have to learn how to live in peace. You can't MAKE someone stop doing something just because there's people who don't like it. I know it's harmfull to other people and i can respect that but if you really want us to think of you non smokers then please think of us smokers too.


Indeed we always think of the smokers like GR, mum (died 45 yo) Miltis sister(died not old).

Here is something for you to think about.



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A normal 'city dwellers' lung showing slight pollution.



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Straight lung cancer. The whitish blobs are the cancerous tissue.


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A smokers lung (eg GR) with Emphysema

You see, we always think of smokers too. They are often our loved ones.

Guess who has to pick up the pieces.

Filthy habit.

I'd do anything to get GR to pack it in. (well, almost anything).


Is the city dweller that donated his lung for the picture any more alive than the others...? :roll:



He died of lead poisoning. :roll:


We all die, sooner or later. I'd rather the latter and fate does not need us to lend it a hand. :twisted:


So assuming all the lungs were the same age, not smoking didn't help the city dweller at all?

Perhaps we should ban cities?



Sometimes I curse myself for being such a caring person.

If you are hell bent on pursuing the 'filthy habit' having no regard to your loved ones what can I say but ....no, I will not say it. I pity the loved ones thats all.
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Postby cyprusgrump » Sun Jan 03, 2010 3:47 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Kangarooster wrote:In my humble opinion it's all cool with the smoking ban IF club/restaurant owners give smokers a place to smoke so we don't have to all stand out in the cold holding our drinks just to light one up. It doesn't have to be fighting and going to extremes, both sides, non smokers and smokers, have to learn how to live in peace. You can't MAKE someone stop doing something just because there's people who don't like it. I know it's harmfull to other people and i can respect that but if you really want us to think of you non smokers then please think of us smokers too.


Indeed we always think of the smokers like GR, mum (died 45 yo) Miltis sister(died not old).

Here is something for you to think about.



Image
A normal 'city dwellers' lung showing slight pollution.



Image
Straight lung cancer. The whitish blobs are the cancerous tissue.


Image
A smokers lung (eg GR) with Emphysema

You see, we always think of smokers too. They are often our loved ones.

Guess who has to pick up the pieces.

Filthy habit.

I'd do anything to get GR to pack it in. (well, almost anything).


Is the city dweller that donated his lung for the picture any more alive than the others...? :roll:



He died of lead poisoning. :roll:


We all die, sooner or later. I'd rather the latter and fate does not need us to lend it a hand. :twisted:


So assuming all the lungs were the same age, not smoking didn't help the city dweller at all?

Perhaps we should ban cities?



Sometimes I curse myself for being such a caring person.

If you are hell bent on pursuing the 'filthy habit' having no regard to your loved ones what can I say but ....no, I will not say it. I pity the loved ones thats all.


I don't smoke... :roll:

But my point is valid - assuming the city dweller's and the smoker's lungs are from the same aged person, then the city dweller gained nothing from not smoking. He is still dead.

I like the pictures of 'a healthy lung' on cigarette packets in the UK. Not that healthy if the owner is dead! :lol:

Many deaths in late age are attributed to smoking, yet the person is going to die anyway. Quite frankly, if you are 80 or 90 and smoking kills you so what - would you live forever if you packed it up?
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Jan 03, 2010 3:53 pm

...as I said, 'fate' does not need a helping hand.

I am pleased you dont smoke :lol: :lol: so dont be so grumpy....then you would not be you. :?
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Postby cyprusgrump » Sun Jan 03, 2010 4:00 pm

denizaksulu wrote:...as I said, 'fate' does not need a helping hand.

I am pleased you dont smoke :lol: :lol: so dont be so grumpy....then you would not be you. :?


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Postby paliometoxo » Sun Jan 03, 2010 4:31 pm

smokers know what the smokes do to them but ignore it.. i know what it does i learnt this stuff in school with the pictures to scare us and everything but the more someone telsl you not to do it when your young the more you want to so your cool.. then you get hooked and its to late for most
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Jan 03, 2010 4:53 pm

paliometoxo wrote:smokers know what the smokes do to them but ignore it.. i know what it does i learnt this stuff in school with the pictures to scare us and everything but the more someone telsl you not to do it when your young the more you want to so your cool.. then you get hooked and its to late for most



Now, you blame the Health Care people. :roll: :roll:

I know its bad isnt it. Never blame the vanity of youth; just blame the Health Industry. Doctors and nurses shold be thankful for the smokers keeping them in F/T employment. :roll:
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Postby fig head » Sun Jan 03, 2010 5:16 pm

I went to my local yest and was lucky smoking was allowed..! well it is not but here is what happen,

Emma : so, no more smoking

person in the pub : well, there is no fines for the owner of the place or the person who runs it,

if you get cought smoking by pigs you get fined 85 euros !

Emma : ah, thats sweet, i`ll take my chances, and lit my cig and quite enjoyed it to be honest,

then due to the very boring mood in the pub i decided to leave,

one more frappe "hell yeah" in another pub then im off home for a movie and nice glass of wine,

mind you my bla bla, smoking was banned ! we had to set out side, it was sunny but windy and frikin freezing,

in 5 minutes i was freezing my toes off , if u kno what i mean,

now, this is my story... a smoker story that had been thro such bad weather conditions to smoke, where is my human rights now..
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Postby Svetlana » Sun Jan 03, 2010 5:19 pm

Emma

I am so sad my 2010 Prediction has come true already! back to smoking :-(
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Postby paliometoxo » Sun Jan 03, 2010 5:22 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:smokers know what the smokes do to them but ignore it.. i know what it does i learnt this stuff in school with the pictures to scare us and everything but the more someone telsl you not to do it when your young the more you want to so your cool.. then you get hooked and its to late for most



Now, you blame the Health Care people. :roll: :roll:

I know its bad isnt it. Never blame the vanity of youth; just blame the Health Industry. Doctors and nurses shold be thankful for the smokers keeping them in F/T employment. :roll:


no of course not... its the smokers fault for starting and not listening to warnings on how its bad for you. but at a young age you dont care about the warnings.. well some dont anyway and some do. i think a lot come to regret it and try quit later on.

but its far form the health care peoples fault..

the goverment should stop tobacco production as GR said but they dont.


sometimes it takes near death experience to make people realise what they are doing

the only ones that gain from the smokers is the tobacco companies who make billions..

the doctors and health care have enough to worry about without cancer smokers taking up time of doctors when they could be focused on other ilnesses.. but people still get cancer without smoking its not just from smoking that you get lung cancer
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