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Postby Get Real! » Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:07 am

Any government that is serious about stomping out smoking, should withdraw the products from the market altogether and place us nicotine junkies on a prescription so that no future generations will take it up, but they’re obviously not serious!

Every year around 100 people die on the roads in road accidents in Cyprus alone, around 40% of which are alcohol related, and this is not taking into consideration those people that get sick and/or die from Cirrhosis, or the tragic consequences of homes destroyed by alcoholics! (beaten wives, abused kids, bankruptcies, etc)

Why is there no plan to ban alcohol when I can so easily count the realistic statistics as opposed to the alleged statistics of 70, 80, and 90 year old geezers supposedly dying from “smoking”! :roll:

What a farce!
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Postby paliometoxo » Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:59 am

they make to much money from it...
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Jan 03, 2010 2:07 am

paliometoxo wrote:they make to much money from it...



Ofcourse they do. The tax they receive is far greater than the Health Care expenses (probably)
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Postby paliometoxo » Sun Jan 03, 2010 2:21 am

maybe..
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Postby Z4 » Sun Jan 03, 2010 2:45 am

Maybe not!
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Postby cyprusgrump » Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:50 am

Get Real! wrote:Any government that is serious about stomping out smoking, should withdraw the products from the market altogether and place us nicotine junkies on a prescription so that no future generations will take it up, but they’re obviously not serious!

Every year around 100 people die on the roads in road accidents in Cyprus alone, around 40% of which are alcohol related, and this is not taking into consideration those people that get sick and/or die from Cirrhosis, or the tragic consequences of homes destroyed by alcoholics! (beaten wives, abused kids, bankruptcies, etc)

Why is there no plan to ban alcohol when I can so easily count the realistic statistics as opposed to the alleged statistics of 70, 80, and 90 year old geezers supposedly dying from “smoking”! :roll:

What a farce!


Excellent post!
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Postby Paphitis » Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:02 am

miltiades wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Toffee wrote:Z4, Milti and 1 or 2 others need to calm down and see the bigger picture. I dont always agree with Grump but he he makes a very valid argument (if you care to read the link he provided) you MAY get a view that you may not agree with BUT it does allow other people to live their lives the way THEY choose. If you dont like the smoke - avoid it -if I smoke how do I avoid you???
Love & Best Wishes for a smokey New Year,

Brian

Worldwide smoking has been recognized as an unhealthy unsocial habit that directly interferes with the right of the non addicts to enjoy breathing in air without having to inhale tobacco smell.
Worldwide that is apart from third world countries .
Cyprus is NOT a third world country , that is why it has recognized the damage that this nasty smell act does not only to addicts but also to passive sufferers.
Some think that the reason pubs in the UK are closing down is purely because of the ban on smoking ignoring the fact that many other industries where the ban on smoking has no relevance whatsoever are also pulling down shutters , the recession has inflicted great pain to all businesses .
There is not an argument for continuing with the present dated and "thirdwordish" habit.
Cypriot and others must realize that their unhealthy smelly habit can not continue to be effecting those around them. Some say smoking now alcohol next !!! I drink every single day of the year a bottle of wine , on Sundays and when I'm feeling unwell two bottles. Neither those around me get intoxicated and neither does anyone has ever suffered from the effects of sitting next to someone who is having a glass of wine.I do of course realize that there are irresponsible drinkers and there are also those that drink themselves stupid , can not hold their drink and become abusive and in many cases violent , mostly the young Brit who goes out on a Saturday night with one purpose only , to get sloshed.
Finally , yesterday I was up in Theletra Paphos .My self and my brother had a coffee in the local kafenio , out of 11 people excluding my self and brother only 3 were smoking. I asked them directly how the ban would affect them, no problem they replied 9 months in the year we sit outside .


Couple of things.

I have a friend that runs a restaurant in Pissouri - most of his customers are 'workers' who come for a coffee and a smoke, some lunchtime trade too. He is very worried about how the ban will affect him.

Secondly, reference alcohol. Across the EU the same tactics that were used to 'denormalise' smoking are being turned on alcohol. Even though laws are available to control 'antisocial behaviour', new draconian powers are being introduced to restrict drinking. Including drinking outside by the way and people enjoying a glass of wine with a picnic are being targeted.

Millions of Euros of our money are being spent on advertising and 'research' by government funded 'charities' to 'prove' that drinking is bad for you. Almost every day in the UK there is some new research announcement or government statement on booze.

Example. In the UK they have reduced the size of the 'unit', an arbitrary measurement of the strength of drinks so the statistics show we are suddenly all drinking more when in fact alcohol consumption is reducing.

Lastly, if you'd told a smoker five years ago that they'd be banned from bars and restaurants they would have thought you crazy! But is has happened - smokers sleep walked into the ban because they didn't believe it could ever happen.

We need to oppose the ban because drinkers like you and me are next on the list.

Drinking excessively is bad , there again drinking in a restaurant does not in any way or form interfere with diners who do not drink. This is the crux of the matter.
There is no justification for inhaling tar and blowing it out, its unhealthy , millions die from smoke related deceases , cancer of the lungs one of them , it is an addictive substance that is now archaic, prevalent amongst people from the third world and lower class people mostly from other parts of the globe.
There is an imperative need to curb this cancer from the Cypriot society , it appears to me that all Cypriots are born destined to become addicts.Discourage this horrid addiction by restricting the public areas where this smelly habit takes place .


Oh shut up and just have a fag! :roll:

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Postby miltiades » Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:54 am

Get Real! wrote:Any government that is serious about stomping out smoking, should withdraw the products from the market altogether and place us nicotine junkies on a prescription so that no future generations will take it up, but they’re obviously not serious!

Every year around 100 people die on the roads in road accidents in Cyprus alone, around 40% of which are alcohol related, and this is not taking into consideration those people that get sick and/or die from Cirrhosis, or the tragic consequences of homes destroyed by alcoholics! (beaten wives, abused kids, bankruptcies, etc)

Why is there no plan to ban alcohol when I can so easily count the realistic statistics as opposed to the alleged statistics of 70, 80, and 90 year old geezers supposedly dying from “smoking”! :roll:

What a farce!

Admit it mate you are a nicotine junkie. You want to give it up but you have no will power , go on mate do your self a favour get rid of this third world Al Qaeda inspired drug !!!!
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Postby Paphitis » Sun Jan 03, 2010 11:09 am

miltiades wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Any government that is serious about stomping out smoking, should withdraw the products from the market altogether and place us nicotine junkies on a prescription so that no future generations will take it up, but they’re obviously not serious!

Every year around 100 people die on the roads in road accidents in Cyprus alone, around 40% of which are alcohol related, and this is not taking into consideration those people that get sick and/or die from Cirrhosis, or the tragic consequences of homes destroyed by alcoholics! (beaten wives, abused kids, bankruptcies, etc)

Why is there no plan to ban alcohol when I can so easily count the realistic statistics as opposed to the alleged statistics of 70, 80, and 90 year old geezers supposedly dying from “smoking”! :roll:

What a farce!

Admit it mate you are a nicotine junkie. You want to give it up but you have no will power , go on mate do your self a favour get rid of this third world Al Qaeda inspired drug !!!!


Much better to be a nicotine junkie than a delusional nit wit who loves to spend his time kissing America's arse....at least his breath won't stink as much as yours!!

Don't get me wrong, I think America is a great country and Americans are very nice, as I have spent considerable time there and have got to know some awesome people, but your appreciation and analysis of world affairs leaves a lot to be desired. Your ignorance is shear bliss, so the last thing you should be doing is giving others lectures about smoking...
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Postby Wingnut » Sun Jan 03, 2010 11:41 am

i used to smoke, 20-40 a day since the age of 15. gave up 8 years ago and never looked back.i tried a lot of different methods but the one that really did it for me was allen carr's book, the easyway to stop smoking. very effective. i would reccommend it highly to anyone who wants to quit. even if you dont think you want to quit, read it anyway, and you probably will.

here's a taste

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADGHMixrko4

thing is,now i am a nonsmoker i absolutely hate it. cant stand going out in smoky places and coming home stinking of fags. and smokers are so slefish, they dont care about other people at all, only themselves and about getting their fix (like crack addicts)

the smoking ban is very welcome.
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