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Postby miltiades » Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:21 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
miltiades wrote:Drinking excessively is bad , there again drinking in a restaurant does not in any way or form interfere with diners who do not drink. This is the crux of the matter.


I have to disagree with you...

The EU is clearly committed to restricting alcohol.

Smoking was never banned for heath reasons (which is why MPs excluded themselves from the ban).

Alcohol is next on the list to be denormalised across the EU. In the UK it has already started, outside drinking bans, the government declaring that children should never sample alcohol. All based on biased 'research' funded by the taxpayer.

They want a minimum cost per 'unit' to curb antisocial behaviours although this will obviously apply to all drinkers.

Meanwhile the government has its own subsidised bars and booze purchased on expenses with no receipt required.

They want separate checkouts in supermarkets so filthy drinkers can be identified.

They have brought in bans in vast parts of the country forbidding the consumption of alcohol outside. People are having their wine confiscated at picnics.

So, it is not the crux of the matter at all. It is not about health, it is about control and restricting your liberty.

You are therefore saying that smoking is good for you !!!Come on mate get real. It is an unhealthy addiction that causes death to millions of people , it is cancerous and destroys your lungs. Don't try and excuse yourself for smoking , it affects not only your lungs but your heart and also your virility.
It is a dirty third world low class habit. Like it or not you smell of stale tobacco , your cloths reek of tar and your surrounding areas at home turn into a dirty looking yellow colour. Give it mate do your self a favour , I'm talking from experience having been an addict , and paid for it almost with my life , for 38 years.It is a disgusting infuriating addiction . My late wife NEVER smoked yet for more than 30 years she was a passive smoker , she died of cancer, my sister also never smoked but for more than 30 years had to endure the dirty smell of tobacco from my brother in law , she too died of cancer , my late father died at the age of 83 , his father lived to the ripe old age of 104 , never smoked but drunk a litre of wine a day. My father was a heavy smoker , died of lung decease.
Smoking kills , it destroys your health , banning it in public places is long overdue.
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:23 pm

paliometoxo wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:thats a lot of money to spend espesially at times like these.. you will see in nicosia now all around the cyprus college filled with smokers standing outside... me personally i always went outside anyway i hated it inside it was to smokey for me lol not that i smoke much just to pass the time when on a break or when drinking alcohol...


Heheheh...

In the UK you can't smoke anywhere on a railway station - even right at the end of the platform which used to be the traditional place...

Instead, all smokers are crowded around the entrance to the station so you have to walk past them to get in! :lol:


so the none smokers have to walk passed a cloud of smoke to go anywhere .. makes sense.. i can see the same happening at uni it will be over crouded and no one will be able to get in or out

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paliometoxo wrote:thats a lot of money to spend espesially at times like these.. you will see in nicosia now all around the cyprus college filled with smokers standing outside... me personally i always went outside anyway i hated it inside it was to smokey for me lol not that i smoke much just to pass the time when on a break or when drinking alcohol...
8)


I am a non-smoker; can I ask you if you ever smoked to 'look cool'?


im afraid thats why i started.. to be cool and smoke when i was 13.. but to be honest i dont really smoke that much anymore .. i can go months without and not even care years even.. i mostly do it when i drink alcohol i hate drinking and not smoking and at uni with a frappe.. which is another reason why im not much of a drinker i rarely drink alcohol.

plus anytime i am at home and i smoke i keep getting the hiccups i dont know why its so annoying.. it puts me off..

you never smoked?



No, never. I suppose I have to thank an English soldier for that. When I was 12 y.o. I lived in Kophinou. There was an English Army camp opposite our house. We would creep under the barbed wire and chat with the soldiers. One soldier insisted I take a puff of his fag. I first resisted then I took one puff and coughed non-stop for two weeks. I dared not tell anyone that it was a fag. They called in a doctor from Larnaca and he said I had a chest infection. A year later my mother died of lung cancer - she smoked and never saw her 45th birthday. Then, I decided that 'smoking kills'. :cry:
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Postby paliometoxo » Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:41 pm

im very sorry to hear that. an awakener espesially when your life is put at risk and someone close to you dies.. i cant imagine how it felt..

but int he loing run its better for you that you stay away and that the experience put you off it
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Postby miltiades » Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:55 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:thats a lot of money to spend espesially at times like these.. you will see in nicosia now all around the cyprus college filled with smokers standing outside... me personally i always went outside anyway i hated it inside it was to smokey for me lol not that i smoke much just to pass the time when on a break or when drinking alcohol...


Heheheh...

In the UK you can't smoke anywhere on a railway station - even right at the end of the platform which used to be the traditional place...

Instead, all smokers are crowded around the entrance to the station so you have to walk past them to get in! :lol:


so the none smokers have to walk passed a cloud of smoke to go anywhere .. makes sense.. i can see the same happening at uni it will be over crouded and no one will be able to get in or out

denizaksulu wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:thats a lot of money to spend espesially at times like these.. you will see in nicosia now all around the cyprus college filled with smokers standing outside... me personally i always went outside anyway i hated it inside it was to smokey for me lol not that i smoke much just to pass the time when on a break or when drinking alcohol...
8)


I am a non-smoker; can I ask you if you ever smoked to 'look cool'?


im afraid thats why i started.. to be cool and smoke when i was 13.. but to be honest i dont really smoke that much anymore .. i can go months without and not even care years even.. i mostly do it when i drink alcohol i hate drinking and not smoking and at uni with a frappe.. which is another reason why im not much of a drinker i rarely drink alcohol.

plus anytime i am at home and i smoke i keep getting the hiccups i dont know why its so annoying.. it puts me off..

you never smoked?



No, never. I suppose I have to thank an English soldier for that. When I was 12 y.o. I lived in Kophinou. There was an English Army camp opposite our house. We would creep under the barbed wire and chat with the soldiers. One soldier insisted I take a puff of his fag. I first resisted then I took one puff and coughed non-stop for two weeks. I dared not tell anyone that it was a fag. They called in a doctor from Larnaca and he said I had a chest infection. A year later my mother died of lung cancer - she smoked and never saw her 45th birthday. Then, I decided that 'smoking kills'. :cry:

Happy New Year Deniz , my best wishes to Ann too , hope to meet up for dinner in the new year . I shall be back next Wednesday .
Have a great time mate .
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Postby Z4 » Thu Dec 31, 2009 7:02 pm

Just 3 hours to go until you buggers can no longer smoke in public!!!! :)
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Postby cyprusgrump » Thu Dec 31, 2009 7:06 pm

miltiades wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
miltiades wrote:Drinking excessively is bad , there again drinking in a restaurant does not in any way or form interfere with diners who do not drink. This is the crux of the matter.


I have to disagree with you...

The EU is clearly committed to restricting alcohol.

Smoking was never banned for heath reasons (which is why MPs excluded themselves from the ban).

Alcohol is next on the list to be denormalised across the EU. In the UK it has already started, outside drinking bans, the government declaring that children should never sample alcohol. All based on biased 'research' funded by the taxpayer.

They want a minimum cost per 'unit' to curb antisocial behaviours although this will obviously apply to all drinkers.

Meanwhile the government has its own subsidised bars and booze purchased on expenses with no receipt required.

They want separate checkouts in supermarkets so filthy drinkers can be identified.

They have brought in bans in vast parts of the country forbidding the consumption of alcohol outside. People are having their wine confiscated at picnics.

So, it is not the crux of the matter at all. It is not about health, it is about control and restricting your liberty.

You are therefore saying that smoking is good for you !!!Come on mate get real. It is an unhealthy addiction that causes death to millions of people , it is cancerous and destroys your lungs. Don't try and excuse yourself for smoking , it affects not only your lungs but your heart and also your virility.
It is a dirty third world low class habit. Like it or not you smell of stale tobacco , your cloths reek of tar and your surrounding areas at home turn into a dirty looking yellow colour. Give it mate do your self a favour , I'm talking from experience having been an addict , and paid for it almost with my life , for 38 years.It is a disgusting infuriating addiction . My late wife NEVER smoked yet for more than 30 years she was a passive smoker , she died of cancer, my sister also never smoked but for more than 30 years had to endure the dirty smell of tobacco from my brother in law , she too died of cancer , my late father died at the age of 83 , his father lived to the ripe old age of 104 , never smoked but drunk a litre of wine a day. My father was a heavy smoker , died of lung decease.
Smoking kills , it destroys your health , banning it in public places is long overdue.


I didn't say that smoking was good for you - but it was certainly not banned for health reasons. If our politicians seriously believed it was for our own good they wouldn't have excluded themselves.

By the way, if you'd read the whole thread you would see that I don't smoke. In fact I've never smoked apart from one puff at school some forty years ago. My father smoked all his life however.

I do believe in personal freedom of choice though and truly believe that the smoking ban will lead to other restrictions on our liberties.
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Postby FragnaticDeath » Thu Dec 31, 2009 7:36 pm

lol guys so what going to happen tonight at clubs? Will people be allowed to smoke or not?
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Postby miltiades » Thu Dec 31, 2009 7:46 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
miltiades wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
miltiades wrote:Drinking excessively is bad , there again drinking in a restaurant does not in any way or form interfere with diners who do not drink. This is the crux of the matter.


I have to disagree with you...

The EU is clearly committed to restricting alcohol.

Smoking was never banned for heath reasons (which is why MPs excluded themselves from the ban).

Alcohol is next on the list to be denormalised across the EU. In the UK it has already started, outside drinking bans, the government declaring that children should never sample alcohol. All based on biased 'research' funded by the taxpayer.

They want a minimum cost per 'unit' to curb antisocial behaviours although this will obviously apply to all drinkers.

Meanwhile the government has its own subsidised bars and booze purchased on expenses with no receipt required.

They want separate checkouts in supermarkets so filthy drinkers can be identified.

They have brought in bans in vast parts of the country forbidding the consumption of alcohol outside. People are having their wine confiscated at picnics.

So, it is not the crux of the matter at all. It is not about health, it is about control and restricting your liberty.

You are therefore saying that smoking is good for you !!!Come on mate get real. It is an unhealthy addiction that causes death to millions of people , it is cancerous and destroys your lungs. Don't try and excuse yourself for smoking , it affects not only your lungs but your heart and also your virility.
It is a dirty third world low class habit. Like it or not you smell of stale tobacco , your cloths reek of tar and your surrounding areas at home turn into a dirty looking yellow colour. Give it mate do your self a favour , I'm talking from experience having been an addict , and paid for it almost with my life , for 38 years.It is a disgusting infuriating addiction . My late wife NEVER smoked yet for more than 30 years she was a passive smoker , she died of cancer, my sister also never smoked but for more than 30 years had to endure the dirty smell of tobacco from my brother in law , she too died of cancer , my late father died at the age of 83 , his father lived to the ripe old age of 104 , never smoked but drunk a litre of wine a day. My father was a heavy smoker , died of lung decease.
Smoking kills , it destroys your health , banning it in public places is long overdue.


I didn't say that smoking was good for you - but it was certainly not banned for health reasons. If our politicians seriously believed it was for our own good they wouldn't have excluded themselves.

By the way, if you'd read the whole thread you would see that I don't smoke. In fact I've never smoked apart from one puff at school some forty years ago. My father smoked all his life however.

I do believe in personal freedom of choice though and truly believe that the smoking ban will lead to other restrictions on our liberties.

Sorry I took you for a smoker. Rest assured that we have never had so many liberties as we now have . Banning smoking in public places does not in any way either restrict or deny personal liberties , on the contrary it strengthens my personal liberty not to have to inhale some elses deadly fumes.
Happy new smoke free New year my friend.
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Postby paliometoxo » Thu Dec 31, 2009 7:49 pm

FragnaticDeath wrote:lol guys so what going to happen tonight at clubs? Will people be allowed to smoke or not?


yes the police say they will be relaxed for tonight but tomorrow then it goes into effect and th epolice will do something i guess.

anw have fun everyone im off to london :D


and btw fig nice wings! you looking good
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Postby cyprusgrump » Thu Dec 31, 2009 7:55 pm

miltiades wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
miltiades wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
miltiades wrote:Drinking excessively is bad , there again drinking in a restaurant does not in any way or form interfere with diners who do not drink. This is the crux of the matter.


I have to disagree with you...

The EU is clearly committed to restricting alcohol.

Smoking was never banned for heath reasons (which is why MPs excluded themselves from the ban).

Alcohol is next on the list to be denormalised across the EU. In the UK it has already started, outside drinking bans, the government declaring that children should never sample alcohol. All based on biased 'research' funded by the taxpayer.

They want a minimum cost per 'unit' to curb antisocial behaviours although this will obviously apply to all drinkers.

Meanwhile the government has its own subsidised bars and booze purchased on expenses with no receipt required.

They want separate checkouts in supermarkets so filthy drinkers can be identified.

They have brought in bans in vast parts of the country forbidding the consumption of alcohol outside. People are having their wine confiscated at picnics.

So, it is not the crux of the matter at all. It is not about health, it is about control and restricting your liberty.

You are therefore saying that smoking is good for you !!!Come on mate get real. It is an unhealthy addiction that causes death to millions of people , it is cancerous and destroys your lungs. Don't try and excuse yourself for smoking , it affects not only your lungs but your heart and also your virility.
It is a dirty third world low class habit. Like it or not you smell of stale tobacco , your cloths reek of tar and your surrounding areas at home turn into a dirty looking yellow colour. Give it mate do your self a favour , I'm talking from experience having been an addict , and paid for it almost with my life , for 38 years.It is a disgusting infuriating addiction . My late wife NEVER smoked yet for more than 30 years she was a passive smoker , she died of cancer, my sister also never smoked but for more than 30 years had to endure the dirty smell of tobacco from my brother in law , she too died of cancer , my late father died at the age of 83 , his father lived to the ripe old age of 104 , never smoked but drunk a litre of wine a day. My father was a heavy smoker , died of lung decease.
Smoking kills , it destroys your health , banning it in public places is long overdue.


I didn't say that smoking was good for you - but it was certainly not banned for health reasons. If our politicians seriously believed it was for our own good they wouldn't have excluded themselves.

By the way, if you'd read the whole thread you would see that I don't smoke. In fact I've never smoked apart from one puff at school some forty years ago. My father smoked all his life however.

I do believe in personal freedom of choice though and truly believe that the smoking ban will lead to other restrictions on our liberties.

Sorry I took you for a smoker. Rest assured that we have never had so many liberties as we now have . Banning smoking in public places does not in any way either restrict or deny personal liberties , on the contrary it strengthens my personal liberty not to have to inhale some elses deadly fumes.
Happy new smoke free New year my friend.


I'm afraid millions of smokers don't agree with you!

Happy New Year to you miltiades, I have enjoyed our discussion on this subject and look forward to more next year.

[serious] It is a pleasure to have a conversation that doesn't degenerate into ad hominem attacks and pointless posts. [/serious]
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