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REACTIONS TO CHRISTOFIAS’S FLAG COMMENTS

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Postby Expatkiwi » Tue Dec 29, 2009 4:26 pm

miltiades wrote:The "brutal" display of this monstrosity on the mountainside has nothing whatsoever to do with the people , the true T/Cs , the indigenous to Cyprus T/Cs who still consider their motherland and the motherland's flag , designed by a T/C , to be Cyprus and not some third world destined part of Cyprus administered by a nation that debated for a whole mounth whether its women folk would wear or not a head scarf.
This monstrosity does not represent the T/Cs that I know and neither is it a symbol of "independence" as someone suggested , it is unquestionably an eye sore , graffiti of cheap taste and indicative of the third world mentality of those responsible for its existence , the Turkish military.


It does come under the definition of "graffiti", but then again, so do some of the monstorous advertizing hordings seen hanging on buildings. I said that I undertstood why the TRNC authorities decided to paint that flag, but I also said that it was going a little over the top. Incidentally, If not for the fact that the flag is not recognized as a national flag by any other nation (except Turkey), the Guiness Book of World Records would record it as the largest flag depiction in the world.
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Postby FragnaticDeath » Tue Dec 29, 2009 4:53 pm

Lol expat your such a fool and boomerang clearly showed it to all of us.

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Postby Malapapa » Tue Dec 29, 2009 5:05 pm

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Tim Drayton wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:Boomerang, You're a real dick at times! Vexillology is the scientific study of flags and its history. As I am a vexillologist, I know a lot about national flags and their histories, plus I also regularly contribute to various flag web sites and publications. The TRNC flag falls under the "good flag" category because it is (a) a simple design with few colors, (b) uncluttered with any lettering or excessive design elements, (c) distinctive in that it does not match or closely match any other country's flag, and (d) it is easilly identifiable at a distance. The big painted flag is a bit over the top, but given the RoCy policy of TRNC isolation and pretending that the TRNC does not exist, I can understand why the TRNC chose to paint that flag on the mountain.

BTW, the RoCy flag falls into the "Good Flag" category as well. It meets the first four points I mentioned for the TRNC flag, plus the fifth point of political neutrality. IMHO, it would have been perfect for the island had the partnership republic prevailed. Since 1963, its meaning had been undermined by the intercommunal conflict.


My dear boy, if you examine this flag carefully you will observe that it is the flag of the Republic of Turkey in reverse. Add this to the fact that the TRNC flag never flies on its own, but in tandem with the Turkish flag, and there is a very powerful symbolic message there waiting for you to decipher.


Tim, the reversed colors make it distinctive. Who confuses the Red Cross with the flag of Switzerland?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Switzerland

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The Red Cross symbol used by the International Committee of the Red Cross is based on the Swiss flag. The Red Cross on white background was the original protection symbol declared at the 1864 Geneva Convention. It is, in terms of its color, a reversal of the Swiss national flag, a meaning which was adopted to honor Swiss native and Red Cross founder Henry Dunant.
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Postby FragnaticDeath » Tue Dec 29, 2009 5:23 pm

Malapapa I guess this is the end of this topic. He would not comment back as usual. Run away
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Postby Expatkiwi » Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:41 pm

FragnaticDeath wrote:Malapapa I guess this is the end of this topic. He would not comment back as usual. Run away


So happy to dissapoint you, FragnaticDeath, but I'm back. Well, I am pleased that there are a number of budding vexillologists in this forum, but you folk are missing one little thing in your responses to my posts: I'm referring to ease of identification at a distance of the flags. The Red Cross Flag honors the Swiss, but The Red Cross flag is instantly recognizable at a distance as a flag of mercy and aid, NOT a national flag. The TRNC flag is based on Turkey, but it cannot be mistaken for the Turkish flag because of (a) the background color and (b) the horizontal red bars. The RoCy flag is distinctive, but it has one fault: from a distance, the depiction of the island is difficult to see. Not a prob with the TRNC flag.
I'm a person who believes that flags should be purely of the type flown from poles. I personally would have preferred the TRNC to fly large flags from those mountains rather than have it painted on the mountain's slope. Still, looking at satellite maps of Cyprus, the painted flag IS rather visible...
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Postby Malapapa » Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:27 pm

Expatkiwi wrote:
FragnaticDeath wrote:Malapapa I guess this is the end of this topic. He would not comment back as usual. Run away


So happy to dissapoint you, FragnaticDeath, but I'm back. Well, I am pleased that there are a number of budding vexillologists in this forum, but you folk are missing one little thing in your responses to my posts: I'm referring to ease of identification at a distance of the flags.


Yes, Turkey's mountain graffiti can no doubt be recognised from space, which is ironic, because recognition back down on earth is out of the question.
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Postby Expatkiwi » Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:50 pm

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FragnaticDeath wrote:Malapapa I guess this is the end of this topic. He would not comment back as usual. Run away


So happy to dissapoint you, FragnaticDeath, but I'm back. Well, I am pleased that there are a number of budding vexillologists in this forum, but you folk are missing one little thing in your responses to my posts: I'm referring to ease of identification at a distance of the flags.


Yes, Turkey's mountain graffiti can no doubt be recognised from space, which is ironic, because recognition back down on earth is out of the question.


I would have thought that you'd also be pleased with the Guiness book of World Records refusing to certify the flag as a world record. FYI, there has been some talk on this forum of - if reunification did occur - having the RoCy flag painted up there to symbolize reconciliation. Would you call that graffiti?
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Postby paliometoxo » Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:02 pm

you do know a tc made that cypriot flag expact dont you? of course you do your a tc
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Postby Malapapa » Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:05 pm

Expatkiwi wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:
FragnaticDeath wrote:Malapapa I guess this is the end of this topic. He would not comment back as usual. Run away


So happy to dissapoint you, FragnaticDeath, but I'm back. Well, I am pleased that there are a number of budding vexillologists in this forum, but you folk are missing one little thing in your responses to my posts: I'm referring to ease of identification at a distance of the flags.


Yes, Turkey's mountain graffiti can no doubt be recognised from space, which is ironic, because recognition back down on earth is out of the question.


I would have thought that you'd also be pleased with the Guiness book of World Records refusing to certify the flag as a world record. FYI, there has been some talk on this forum of - if reunification did occur - having the RoCy flag painted up there to symbolize reconciliation. Would you call that graffiti?


I personally would like to see the mountain restored to its former natural beauty, looking as it has for millennia, before uncouth, flag-waving conquerors darkened Cyprus's door.

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Postby paliometoxo » Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:30 pm

dont forget the othe rmountain further into the north that has one flag and two real flags left and right of it
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