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Debate vs Abuse

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Should personally abusive postings be banned?

Poll ended at Sat Jan 02, 2010 4:15 pm

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Total votes : 31

Debate vs Abuse

Postby Expatkiwi » Mon Dec 28, 2009 4:15 pm

Well, the bad-mouthers are in full swing on the forum again. Looks like this forum that is here to debate the Cyprus problem is once again becoming a mudfest of abuse and intolerance. Boomerang and B25, please take note: TRNC supporters are NOT all ethnic cleansers, and New Zealanders are NOT "dumbfucks" either. If you have a problem with what I have to post on this forum, all you have to do is one of two things: ignore it, or debate it in what is quaintly called "a dispassionate manner". Resorting to accusatory and abusive rhetoric shows me that you are low-educated, narrow-minded, and incapable of debate. I have much more respect for Oracle's and GR's postings than yours and that's saying something! When you can find the time to read properly what I'm trying to say, then debating it soberly, then perhaps I'll start taking you seriously, like Kikapu and Malapapa. Until then, kindly keep your filthy obscenities to yourselves.
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Postby BOF » Mon Dec 28, 2009 4:21 pm

I think the Moderators should tighten up the rules a bit on abuse.
This wouldnt be the first website to be sensured for its intolerance by the EU...
You certainly wouldnt get away with it on other sites.
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Re: Debate vs Abuse

Postby Tony-4497 » Mon Dec 28, 2009 4:24 pm

Expatkiwi wrote:TRNC supporters are NOT all ethnic cleansers, and New Zealanders are NOT "dumbfucks" either


I will agree with the latter and disagree with the former. ANYONE who supports a "Turkish state" created on land that was stolen and ethnically cleansed of 90% of its legal residents (who had been there for thousands of years) through brutal military force is BY DEFINITION an ethnic cleanser or at least a supporter of ethnic cleansing (I do not think there is a material difference between the two).
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Postby Floda » Mon Dec 28, 2009 4:33 pm

This poll is being rigged !!, miltiades has cast 2 votes. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Dec 28, 2009 4:34 pm

I’d rather see those who do a runner when their bluff is called, banned for wasting people’s time.

This is a technical section of the forum so if you’re not prepared to conduct research and prepare your case you should stop posting altogether!

Throw out the time wasting nincompoops and make the CyProb section a closed off (read only) area, and only allow “read/write” access when one has earned it with their knowledge and voted in by the rest.

You’ll find that the abuse in question is the product of these fools wasting people’s time.
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Re: Debate vs Abuse

Postby Expatkiwi » Mon Dec 28, 2009 4:34 pm

Tony-4497 wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:TRNC supporters are NOT all ethnic cleansers, and New Zealanders are NOT "dumbfucks" either


I will agree with the latter and disagree with the former. ANYONE who supports a "Turkish state" created on land that was stolen and ethnically cleansed of 90% of its legal residents (who had been there for thousands of years) through brutal military force is BY DEFINITION an ethnic cleanser or at least a supporter of ethnic cleansing (I do not think there is a material difference between the two).


Tony, I don't want to be nasty, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't ethnic cleansing what happened in 1963 thru 1965 when the TC's were ousted from government and forced into enclaves? Also, complete non-Greek ethnic cleansing of Cyprus was the goal of the Sampson coup, judging from Sampson's own quotes. The population exchanges in 1975 were by definition a "cleansing" of both sides, isn't that so?
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Postby Expatkiwi » Mon Dec 28, 2009 4:41 pm

Get Real! wrote:I’d rather see those who do a runner when their bluff is called, banned for wasting people’s time.

This is a technical section of the forum so if you’re not prepared to conduct research and prepare your case you should stop posting altogether!

Throw out the time wasting nincompoops and make the CyProb section a closed off (read only) area, and only allow “read/write” access when one has earned it with their knowledge and voted in by the rest.

You’ll find that the abuse in question is the product of these fools wasting people’s time.


That's not a bad idea, but how could the voting be regarded as fair, if the majority are of one side of the debate and want to keep the other side out?
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Re: Debate vs Abuse

Postby wyoming cowboy » Mon Dec 28, 2009 4:50 pm

There were noone forced into enclaves in 64 or 67, and nooone forced out of the government the Turk cyps choose to do so, in order to disrupt the government, not all Tc were inenclaves, hence the population exchange in 74, some villages had UN protection some didnt, in NIcosia throughtout the conflicts Greek and Turk cyp worked and lived in joint villages.....in 74 the turkish army killed and butchered Greekcyp in a system of terror to get them to leave their villages...
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Tony-4497 wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:TRNC supporters are NOT all ethnic cleansers, and New Zealanders are NOT "dumbfucks" either


I will agree with the latter and disagree with the former. ANYONE who supports a "Turkish state" created on land that was stolen and ethnically cleansed of 90% of its legal residents (who had been there for thousands of years) through brutal military force is BY DEFINITION an ethnic cleanser or at least a supporter of ethnic cleansing (I do not think there is a material difference between the two).


Tony, I don't want to be nasty, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't ethnic cleansing what happened in 1963 thru 1965 when the TC's were ousted from government and forced into enclaves? Also, complete non-Greek ethnic cleansing of Cyprus was the goal of the Sampson coup, judging from Sampson's own quotes. The population exchanges in 1975 were by definition a "cleansing" of both sides, isn't that so?
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Postby miltiades » Mon Dec 28, 2009 4:56 pm

As one whose tolerance level when it comes to stupidity is rather low I would most certainly reprimand those that I feel are being utterly stupid and irresponsible when it comes to serving the interests of this island. Plonkers who are dedicated supporters of any enemy of the West regardless of how vile and and insignificant to the cause of Cyprus such vile entities might be , Al Qaeda for instance.
We have well educated and rather narrow minded Cypriots WHO DETEST THE WEST SO MUCH THAT THEY WILL COME TO THE DEFENCE OF THE WEST'S ENEMIES AT A DROP OF A HAT.
I have no time for these morons and neither do I have time for those who refuse to learn historical lessons and the causes of inviting Turkey into our shores.
Our island is denied by a large number of people of the right to be an independent nation , the right that all other nations have .
We deny our true motherland and embrace foreign countries to the detriment of the future generations of Cypriots.
To some it seems that unless you support the ideals the led to the destruction of our island back in 74 then you are not a G/C !! One Plonker often refers to me as a traitor because at the age of 15 in 1961 , 3 years I believe before the introduction of national service , I emigrated to the UK , on my own I might add , this Plonker insinuates that I deserted that somehow I along with thousands of other Cypriots who sought to improve their lives simply run away.
Let me now say loud and clear that the diaspora Cypriots supported and actively involved themselves in the promotion of justice , liberty and financial welfare of their motherland , the island of Cyprus.
Thirty years plus I marched , I lobbied , I screamed debated and loved this island and this moron of a plonker calls me a traitor.
Here is my vote Adolf , you Plonker!!
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Postby BOF » Mon Dec 28, 2009 5:06 pm

you see there you go - a simple question a simple yes/no answer with perhaps a footnote .....
and already the thread has degenerated and gone off topic.

merry christmas, peace on earth.
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