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Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:02 am

Oh ... I see, we are talking about temporary article 10 of the TRNC constitution which suspends the provisions of article 117. Article 117, for those who are curious, subordinates the military to the democratically elected parliament, cabinet and president. Perhaps I am thick, but I still do not see what this has to do with making people show ID cards to access their own homes.
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Postby boomerang » Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:14 am

its a relationship between the puppet and the puppetmeister...
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Re: TC refused access to Louroujina to visit her parents

Postby Kikapu » Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:26 am

iceman wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Translation of an article from Afrika.

http://www.afrikagazetesi.net/modules.p ... e&sid=1166

This is the last straw. In Louroujina (Lurucina/ Akıncılar), even villagers cannot access their own houses without showing identity cards. Our citizen named Fetine Mehmet, who came home with her daughter and grandchild to spend New Year with her mother and father aged in their 90’s, was denied entry to Louroujina (Lurucina/ Akıncılar) by the military on the grounds that she did not have a TRNC identity card. The soldier who was inspecting identity cards at the entrance to the village, having telephoned his superior, denied the family permission to pass. Fetine Mehmet, who returned without seeing her 91 year old father and 89 year old mother, was put up by relatives in Nicosia. Louroujina (Lurucina/ Akıncılar), whose population has fallen to 300, is virtually under military siege. The villagers in this neglected village have been grappling with this problem for years.



Tim
What you posted is yesterdays news..there is a follow up to this story on today's Afrika.
Apparently Fetine Mehmet got offended by Afrika's article accusing the Turkish Army of not allowing her through and threatened to sue Afrika unless they made a public apology..
She has said "We have no problem with the Turkish army,They have done their duty (by not allowing them through without ID) they saved us from the GC's and we are grateful to them"

so today's Afrika headline was
Özür istediler,Zavallı Kıbrıslı


Özür istediler,Zavallı Kıbrıslı

Iceman, correct me if I'm wrong, but Africa was taking the piss with the above statement against this woman seeking an apology, were they not.?
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Re: TC refused access to Louroujina to visit her parents

Postby YFred » Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:31 am

Kikapu wrote:
iceman wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Translation of an article from Afrika.

http://www.afrikagazetesi.net/modules.p ... e&sid=1166

This is the last straw. In Louroujina (Lurucina/ Akıncılar), even villagers cannot access their own houses without showing identity cards. Our citizen named Fetine Mehmet, who came home with her daughter and grandchild to spend New Year with her mother and father aged in their 90’s, was denied entry to Louroujina (Lurucina/ Akıncılar) by the military on the grounds that she did not have a TRNC identity card. The soldier who was inspecting identity cards at the entrance to the village, having telephoned his superior, denied the family permission to pass. Fetine Mehmet, who returned without seeing her 91 year old father and 89 year old mother, was put up by relatives in Nicosia. Louroujina (Lurucina/ Akıncılar), whose population has fallen to 300, is virtually under military siege. The villagers in this neglected village have been grappling with this problem for years.



Tim
What you posted is yesterdays news..there is a follow up to this story on today's Afrika.
Apparently Fetine Mehmet got offended by Afrika's article accusing the Turkish Army of not allowing her through and threatened to sue Afrika unless they made a public apology..
She has said "We have no problem with the Turkish army,They have done their duty (by not allowing them through without ID) they saved us from the GC's and we are grateful to them"

so today's Afrika headline was
Özür istediler,Zavallı Kıbrıslı


Özür istediler,Zavallı Kıbrıslı

Iceman, correct me if I'm wrong, but Africa was taking the piss with the above statement against this woman seeking an apology, were they not.?

If she was offended by the article, why should she not seek an apology. You do believe in true democracy and human rights don't you old chap. Or is it only when it suits like the rest of your gang.
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Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:42 am

The far right Yeni Volkan has published the following about this incident (my translation):

http://www.volkangazetesi.net/habgoster.asp?id=33413

In response to allegations in a report published in yesterday’s Afrika that Fetine Mehmet, having arrived London with her daughter, son-in-law and grandchild, was denied access by the military to the village of Akıncılar, Fetine Mehmet visited our newspaper and said the following:
Although we live in London, I come to the TRNC twice a year and visit my mother and father. I know very well that it is necessary to show a TRNC ID card at the entry to Akıncılar village, which is inside a military zone. Up until today I have met with no obstacle.
Yesterday I had to perform some procedures at the Land Registry Office and I had my TRNC ID card with me. However, in the confusion, my TRNC ID card got mixed up with the land registry papers. When I went to Akıncılar village accompanied by my daughter, son-in-law and grandchild, I remembered that I had left my ID card at home. I knew full well that I could not enter the village because I did not have my ID card with me and so I did not object at all. This is because the soldiers stationed there have the duty of ensuring the safety of the villagers. Apart from this, they behaved extremely respectfully towards us.
At this point in time, a person approached us and, after speaking to the soldier on duty, said, “The soldier has done his duty and is right.” However, this same person later went to Afrika newspaper and told the lie that the soldier acted badly towards us. Afrika, when publishing this lie, said that because I was homeless I was put up by my relatives in Nicosia. This is a fabrication because I have a house in the Kaymaklı area of Nicosia and am staying there.
Yesterday I telephoned Afrika and gave them a true account, and I asked them to correct this false report and apologise to the military. In the reply they gave to me, they said that they would not apologise to the military. This lead me to understand more clearly what their intentions are. They embrace every lie in the attempt to discredit our military. But let them understand clearly that our military means everything to us.


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Postby YFred » Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:48 am

Tim Drayton wrote:The far right Yeni Volkan has published the following about this incident (my translation):

http://www.volkangazetesi.net/habgoster.asp?id=33413

In response to allegations in a report published in yesterday’s Afrika that Fetine Mehmet, having arrived London with her daughter, son-in-law and grandchild, was denied access by the military to the village of Akıncılar, Fetine Mehmet visited our newspaper and said the following:
Although we live in London, I come to the TRNC twice a year and visit my mother and father. I know very well that it is necessary to show a TRNC ID card at the entry to Akıncılar village, which is inside a military zone. Up until today I have met with no obstacle.
Yesterday I had to perform some procedures at the Land Registry Office and I had my TRNC ID card with me. However, in the confusion, my TRNC ID card got mixed up with the land registry papers. When I went to Akıncılar village accompanied by my daughter, son-in-law and grandchild, I remembered that I had left my ID card at home. I knew full well that I could not enter the village because I did not have my ID card with me and so I did not object at all. This is because the soldiers stationed there have the duty of ensuring the safety of the villagers. Apart from this, they behaved extremely respectfully towards us.
At this point in time, a person approached us and, after speaking to the soldier on duty, said, “The soldier has done his duty and is right.” However, this same person later went to Afrika newspaper and told the lie that the soldier acted badly towards us. Afrika, when publishing this lie, said that because I was homeless I was put up by my relatives in Nicosia. This is a fabrication because I have a house in the Kaymaklı area of Nicosia and am staying there.
Yesterday I telephoned Afrika and gave them a true account, and I asked them to correct this false report and apologise to the military. In the reply they gave to me, they said that they would not apologise to the military. This lead me to understand more clearly what their intentions are. They embrace every lie in the attempt to discredit our military. But let them understand clearly that our military means everything to us.


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Re: TC refused access to Louroujina to visit her parents

Postby Kikapu » Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:53 am

YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
iceman wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Translation of an article from Afrika.

http://www.afrikagazetesi.net/modules.p ... e&sid=1166

This is the last straw. In Louroujina (Lurucina/ Akıncılar), even villagers cannot access their own houses without showing identity cards. Our citizen named Fetine Mehmet, who came home with her daughter and grandchild to spend New Year with her mother and father aged in their 90’s, was denied entry to Louroujina (Lurucina/ Akıncılar) by the military on the grounds that she did not have a TRNC identity card. The soldier who was inspecting identity cards at the entrance to the village, having telephoned his superior, denied the family permission to pass. Fetine Mehmet, who returned without seeing her 91 year old father and 89 year old mother, was put up by relatives in Nicosia. Louroujina (Lurucina/ Akıncılar), whose population has fallen to 300, is virtually under military siege. The villagers in this neglected village have been grappling with this problem for years.



Tim
What you posted is yesterdays news..there is a follow up to this story on today's Afrika.
Apparently Fetine Mehmet got offended by Afrika's article accusing the Turkish Army of not allowing her through and threatened to sue Afrika unless they made a public apology..
She has said "We have no problem with the Turkish army,They have done their duty (by not allowing them through without ID) they saved us from the GC's and we are grateful to them"

so today's Afrika headline was
Özür istediler,Zavallı Kıbrıslı


Özür istediler,Zavallı Kıbrıslı

Iceman, correct me if I'm wrong, but Africa was taking the piss with the above statement against this woman seeking an apology, were they not.?

If she was offended by the article, why should she not seek an apology. You do believe in true democracy and human rights don't you old chap. Or is it only when it suits like the rest of your gang.


You know something, YFred, your comprehension of the written English language is as bad as VP's and Halil's at times. Where in my statement did it say that she should not be given an apology if she was offended, but that aside, newspapers and news organisations are not in the business of giving apologies just simply because some get offended by an article in the paper, but only for inaccuracies made by the paper and not for it's truthfulness, or else all the news organisations will be printing apologies all day long since many readers may get offended for one reason or the other. Surely you living all these years in the UK has tough you something about what Democracy is all about, then again, I think not. Here is one of those pillars of Democracy, YFred. Freedom of the Press.! No wonder Africa is taking the piss with this woman's demand for an apology. An apology for what, writing what had happened to her with the TA. I think Oracles is right. She has had a "Midnight Express" delivery made to her from certain parties for her to seek an apology for the article written by Africa.!.!
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Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:57 am

YFred wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:The far right Yeni Volkan has published the following about this incident (my translation):

http://www.volkangazetesi.net/habgoster.asp?id=33413

In response to allegations in a report published in yesterday’s Afrika that Fetine Mehmet, having arrived London with her daughter, son-in-law and grandchild, was denied access by the military to the village of Akıncılar, Fetine Mehmet visited our newspaper and said the following:
Although we live in London, I come to the TRNC twice a year and visit my mother and father. I know very well that it is necessary to show a TRNC ID card at the entry to Akıncılar village, which is inside a military zone. Up until today I have met with no obstacle.
Yesterday I had to perform some procedures at the Land Registry Office and I had my TRNC ID card with me. However, in the confusion, my TRNC ID card got mixed up with the land registry papers. When I went to Akıncılar village accompanied by my daughter, son-in-law and grandchild, I remembered that I had left my ID card at home. I knew full well that I could not enter the village because I did not have my ID card with me and so I did not object at all. This is because the soldiers stationed there have the duty of ensuring the safety of the villagers. Apart from this, they behaved extremely respectfully towards us.
At this point in time, a person approached us and, after speaking to the soldier on duty, said, “The soldier has done his duty and is right.” However, this same person later went to Afrika newspaper and told the lie that the soldier acted badly towards us. Afrika, when publishing this lie, said that because I was homeless I was put up by my relatives in Nicosia. This is a fabrication because I have a house in the Kaymaklı area of Nicosia and am staying there.
Yesterday I telephoned Afrika and gave them a true account, and I asked them to correct this false report and apologise to the military. In the reply they gave to me, they said that they would not apologise to the military. This lead me to understand more clearly what their intentions are. They embrace every lie in the attempt to discredit our military. But let them understand clearly that our military means everything to us.


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I thought you one told me that true Lurucadis do not refer to the village using the "A" name.
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Postby YFred » Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:20 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
YFred wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:The far right Yeni Volkan has published the following about this incident (my translation):

http://www.volkangazetesi.net/habgoster.asp?id=33413

In response to allegations in a report published in yesterday’s Afrika that Fetine Mehmet, having arrived London with her daughter, son-in-law and grandchild, was denied access by the military to the village of Akıncılar, Fetine Mehmet visited our newspaper and said the following:
Although we live in London, I come to the TRNC twice a year and visit my mother and father. I know very well that it is necessary to show a TRNC ID card at the entry to Akıncılar village, which is inside a military zone. Up until today I have met with no obstacle.
Yesterday I had to perform some procedures at the Land Registry Office and I had my TRNC ID card with me. However, in the confusion, my TRNC ID card got mixed up with the land registry papers. When I went to Akıncılar village accompanied by my daughter, son-in-law and grandchild, I remembered that I had left my ID card at home. I knew full well that I could not enter the village because I did not have my ID card with me and so I did not object at all. This is because the soldiers stationed there have the duty of ensuring the safety of the villagers. Apart from this, they behaved extremely respectfully towards us.
At this point in time, a person approached us and, after speaking to the soldier on duty, said, “The soldier has done his duty and is right.” However, this same person later went to Afrika newspaper and told the lie that the soldier acted badly towards us. Afrika, when publishing this lie, said that because I was homeless I was put up by my relatives in Nicosia. This is a fabrication because I have a house in the Kaymaklı area of Nicosia and am staying there.
Yesterday I telephoned Afrika and gave them a true account, and I asked them to correct this false report and apologise to the military. In the reply they gave to me, they said that they would not apologise to the military. This lead me to understand more clearly what their intentions are. They embrace every lie in the attempt to discredit our military. But let them understand clearly that our military means everything to us.


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I thought you one told me that true Lurucadis do not refer to the village using the "A" name.

There is always an exception to every rule. Judging by her thoughts, she is rather right wing, even though she may not think so. What I would call a Sun reader. They use the A word.
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Re: TC refused access to Louroujina to visit her parents

Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Dec 28, 2009 2:22 pm

iceman wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Translation of an article from Afrika.

http://www.afrikagazetesi.net/modules.p ... e&sid=1166

This is the last straw. In Louroujina (Lurucina/ Akıncılar), even villagers cannot access their own houses without showing identity cards. Our citizen named Fetine Mehmet, who came home with her daughter and grandchild to spend New Year with her mother and father aged in their 90’s, was denied entry to Louroujina (Lurucina/ Akıncılar) by the military on the grounds that she did not have a TRNC identity card. The soldier who was inspecting identity cards at the entrance to the village, having telephoned his superior, denied the family permission to pass. Fetine Mehmet, who returned without seeing her 91 year old father and 89 year old mother, was put up by relatives in Nicosia. Louroujina (Lurucina/ Akıncılar), whose population has fallen to 300, is virtually under military siege. The villagers in this neglected village have been grappling with this problem for years.



Tim
What you posted is yesterdays news..there is a follow up to this story on today's Afrika.
Apparently Fetine Mehmet got offended by Afrika's article accusing the Turkish Army of not allowing her through and threatened to sue Afrika unless they made a public apology..
She has said "We have no problem with the Turkish army,They have done their duty (by not allowing them through without ID) they saved us from the GC's and we are grateful to them"

so today's Afrika headline was
Özür istediler,Zavallı Kıbrıslı


This is up on the website now.

http://www.afrikagazetesi.net/modules.p ... e&sid=1168
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