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Re: TC refused access to Louroujina to visit her parents

Postby insan » Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:12 pm

iceman wrote:
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Who made and voted in favour of that stupid law which don't allow people who haven't got TRNC id to enter the village? Illiterate TC politicians... Why only those who have TRNC ids r allowed to enter the village? Is there any rational explanation of this?


Don't make a fool of yourself insan....since when has any TC politician been in authority to make a law concerning Turkish army and their silly rules?


U r making a fool of urself iceman... when nationalist right wingers who essentially have no divergence on national issues collaborate and cooperate; they do everything together with concensus... In this context TC politicians have more to blame than Turkish military officers and i'm tend to believe that the relevant law is the opinion of our nationalist right wingers... Don't forget the respect Turkish governments and high rank military officers had/have towards Denktash and his political party then in power, UBP; had the support of majority of TC community.(54%)



Just think back 2-3 years ago when there was the argument of removing that stupid bridge built at Ledra...
In a speech Talat said he will order it removed if his terms were met and immediately he was reminded by the General Buyukanit in charge of Genel Kurmay in Ankara that according to the 10th Article of the constitution TRNC the total control of the borders of TRNC belong to the Turkish army and no one (including Talat) can make any promises to anyone regarding this matter...(incidentally if you did not know,Article 10 is the one which gives full control of the TRNC police force to the Turkish Army) :wink:


The temporary 10th article of TRNC constitution can't be an obstacle for TRNC politicians to negotiate with Turkish army officers to remove some outdated regualtions of this article and modernize it according to the current circumstances.

For example, if the entries to Luricina were regulated under this article; it should be changed to allow everyone who show their ids to visit the village not only who have TRNC ids...

I've never been to Luricina it is said that the village is kind of inside of a Turkish military base area...
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Re: TC refused access to Louroujina to visit her parents

Postby YFred » Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:17 pm

insan wrote:
iceman wrote:
insan wrote:
iceman wrote:
insan wrote:
Who made and voted in favour of that stupid law which don't allow people who haven't got TRNC id to enter the village? Illiterate TC politicians... Why only those who have TRNC ids r allowed to enter the village? Is there any rational explanation of this?


Don't make a fool of yourself insan....since when has any TC politician been in authority to make a law concerning Turkish army and their silly rules?


U r making a fool of urself iceman... when nationalist right wingers who essentially have no divergence on national issues collaborate and cooperate; they do everything together with concensus... In this context TC politicians have more to blame than Turkish military officers and i'm tend to believe that the relevant law is the opinion of our nationalist right wingers... Don't forget the respect Turkish governments and high rank military officers had/have towards Denktash and his political party then in power, UBP; had the support of majority of TC community.(54%)



Just think back 2-3 years ago when there was the argument of removing that stupid bridge built at Ledra...
In a speech Talat said he will order it removed if his terms were met and immediately he was reminded by the General Buyukanit in charge of Genel Kurmay in Ankara that according to the 10th Article of the constitution TRNC the total control of the borders of TRNC belong to the Turkish army and no one (including Talat) can make any promises to anyone regarding this matter...(incidentally if you did not know,Article 10 is the one which gives full control of the TRNC police force to the Turkish Army) :wink:


The temporary 10th article of TRNC constitution can't be an obstacle for TRNC politicians to negotiate with Turkish army officers to remove some outdated regualtions of this article and modernize it according to the current circumstances.

For example, if the entries to Luricina were regulated under this article; it should be changed to allow everyone who show their ids to visit the village not only who have TRNC ids...

I've never been to Luricina it is said that the village is kind of inside of a Turkish military base area...

No it is not. The army camp comes up to the edge of piroi. The last barricade is on the old Larnaka/ Lefkosa road. We have to drive through the camp to get to it. From then on, we have a stretch of land to link us to the north. There is no TA in Lurucina, never has been, only Mucahid.
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Postby Expatkiwi » Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:17 pm

Article 10 of the TRNC constitution was a mistake.
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Postby insan » Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:38 pm

Expatkiwi wrote:Article 10 of the TRNC constitution was a mistake.


Maybe that's why it is being refered as "temporary 10th article of TRNC constitution"...
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Postby paliometoxo » Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:53 pm

whats artical 10 of the fake state?
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Postby bill cobbett » Sun Dec 27, 2009 8:21 pm

paliometoxo wrote:whats artical 10 of the fake state?


Thou Shalt Covet Thy Neighbour's Ass. :wink:
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Postby Oracle » Sun Dec 27, 2009 8:26 pm

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Expatkiwi wrote:Article 10 of the TRNC constitution was a mistake.


Maybe that's why it is being refered as "temporary 10th article of TRNC constitution"...


It is "temporary" because your whole set-up is temporary!
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Postby insan » Sun Dec 27, 2009 8:33 pm

Oracle wrote:
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Expatkiwi wrote:Article 10 of the TRNC constitution was a mistake.


Maybe that's why it is being refered as "temporary 10th article of TRNC constitution"...


It is "temporary" because your whole set-up is temporary!


True... until the last round of talks fails and we make it permenant!
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Postby paliometoxo » Sun Dec 27, 2009 9:09 pm

35 years lkater its still not permenant.. turkey wont officially devide our island
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Postby Oracle » Sun Dec 27, 2009 10:18 pm

insan wrote:
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Expatkiwi wrote:Article 10 of the TRNC constitution was a mistake.


Maybe that's why it is being refered as "temporary 10th article of TRNC constitution"...


It is "temporary" because your whole set-up is temporary!


True... until the last round of talks fails and we make it permenant!


You don't make anything "permanent" little eastern Turkish boy!

Democracy has a few thousand years of acceptability which you would have to erase first.
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