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Postby Get Real! » Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:51 am

Acikgoz wrote:Does having control and recognition of an unconstitutionally established government not equate to possession being 90% of ownership? Possesion through political maneuver or military or biased judges, none are "right" but hey when was man ever wise, whichever culture he came from.

Everyone gather round for a free tour of the corrupt mind of a carpetbagger… :wink:

No doubt he’ll quickly change his story if he ever goes home to find squatters have moved in! :lol:
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Postby YFred » Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:54 am

denizaksulu wrote:
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Talisker wrote:
YFred wrote:
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boomerang wrote:it looks to me the tcs need an annan plan for themselves... :lol:


No.... The TC's need a country of their own: TRNC.


all they need to do then is find some land that belongs to them and Bob's your uncle.

You are forgetting that possession is 90% of ownership. Add 35 years to that and Annan was the best you could have. I always said that each one is slightly worse than the previous one and this next one will be no different. Mess the net one up and it's the end. Problem solved.

So if your car was stolen you would never pursue the thieves? Or if you returned home and found squatters occupying 'your' space, you would let them stay there unchallenged even though the law was on your side 100%?

If there was no breaking and entering into the property, try getting them out. There is an interesting case in London this year, where some squatters climbed through a window of an empty house that is worth millions. If it's empty, the rule applies. If the owner had no access to it for 35 years and then the person in possession is the owner, even here. You can blame the roc for that one. The deals on the table in 70's and 80 were far better than what you are going to get now and what you are getting now is far better then what you are going to get in the future.
You comparison is not relevant. GCs tried to take the whole of Cyprus and lost the war. Now in true DT terms, you have to take like a man. His words not mime.



:shock: :shock: :shock: Yfredo, how can anyone take you seriously when you say, 'You are forgetting that possession is 90% of ownership. Add 35 years to that and Annan was the best you could have.. I can only assume that your weird sense of humour has taken over.

Please tell me its a joke and a Happy New Year to all Lurucadi's.

Happy New Year to you and all Cypriots, old man.
So long as you laughed we are ok.
Do you really believe that there is going to be a peace plan that will be better than the Annan plan. Did you not hear the bash Papaz say the other day that this new plan is worst than the Annan plan?
We have to be realistic in our expectations so we do not get disappointing at the results.
The phrase I used is a cliche which is applicable in UK. There is a case in point in London, which made the news recently. Some squatters have got in to an empty house in Victoria worth 6 million pounds through an open window (In the Mrs Abrahamovic neighborhood). No Breaking and entering was involved. The owners are going to court to try to get it back. It will be interesting to see what happens. The squatters when interviewed were not worried about the court. Judging by their behavior, they seem to know the law.
What is criminal in the roc is the fact that you as an eu citizen who left cyprus long before 74 paid all your taxes and are unable to get possession of your land. How can you take the roc seriously when there are so blatantly racist and criminal in their behavior.
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:58 am

Acikgoz wrote:Tell me how much TCs pour into lobbying,
What's there to lobby when you've got no legs to stand on? :lol:

Let me see a property commission or simply the ability to go and sell or move into your property in the South and then I'd say you're right.

No need for that... ever heard of the “Turkish Cypriot properties Management Service”?

http://www.moi.gov.cy/moi/citizenschart ... enDocument
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:02 am

YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Talisker wrote:
YFred wrote:
DT. wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:
boomerang wrote:it looks to me the tcs need an annan plan for themselves... :lol:


No.... The TC's need a country of their own: TRNC.


all they need to do then is find some land that belongs to them and Bob's your uncle.

You are forgetting that possession is 90% of ownership. Add 35 years to that and Annan was the best you could have. I always said that each one is slightly worse than the previous one and this next one will be no different. Mess the net one up and it's the end. Problem solved.

So if your car was stolen you would never pursue the thieves? Or if you returned home and found squatters occupying 'your' space, you would let them stay there unchallenged even though the law was on your side 100%?

If there was no breaking and entering into the property, try getting them out. There is an interesting case in London this year, where some squatters climbed through a window of an empty house that is worth millions. If it's empty, the rule applies. If the owner had no access to it for 35 years and then the person in possession is the owner, even here. You can blame the roc for that one. The deals on the table in 70's and 80 were far better than what you are going to get now and what you are getting now is far better then what you are going to get in the future.
You comparison is not relevant. GCs tried to take the whole of Cyprus and lost the war. Now in true DT terms, you have to take like a man. His words not mime.



:shock: :shock: :shock: Yfredo, how can anyone take you seriously when you say, 'You are forgetting that possession is 90% of ownership. Add 35 years to that and Annan was the best you could have.. I can only assume that your weird sense of humour has taken over.

Please tell me its a joke and a Happy New Year to all Lurucadi's.

Happy New Year to you and all Cypriots, old man.
So long as you laughed we are ok.
Do you really believe that there is going to be a peace plan that will be better than the Annan plan. Did you not hear the bash Papaz say the other day that this new plan is worst than the Annan plan?
We have to be realistic in our expectations so we do not get disappointing at the results.
The phrase I used is a cliche which is applicable in UK. There is a case in point in London, which made the news recently. Some squatters have got in to an empty house in Victoria worth 6 million pounds through an open window (In the Mrs Abrahamovic neighborhood). No Breaking and entering was involved. The owners are going to court to try to get it back. It will be interesting to see what happens. The squatters when interviewed were not worried about the court. Judging by their behavior, they seem to know the law.
What is criminal in the roc is the fact that you as an eu citizen who left cyprus long before 74 paid all your taxes and are unable to get possession of your land. How can you take the roc seriously when there are so blatantly racist and criminal in their behavior.



Yes, I admit to having a chuckle (on a srious topic :roll: ). I also read what Chrisostomos has said to my chagrin and many Cypriots too. What realistic expectations I may have and the topic in hand are two different things.

And I agree, we are talking about Cyprus and NOT London.
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Postby YFred » Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:03 am

denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Talisker wrote:
YFred wrote:
DT. wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:
boomerang wrote:it looks to me the tcs need an annan plan for themselves... :lol:


No.... The TC's need a country of their own: TRNC.


all they need to do then is find some land that belongs to them and Bob's your uncle.

You are forgetting that possession is 90% of ownership. Add 35 years to that and Annan was the best you could have. I always said that each one is slightly worse than the previous one and this next one will be no different. Mess the net one up and it's the end. Problem solved.

So if your car was stolen you would never pursue the thieves? Or if you returned home and found squatters occupying 'your' space, you would let them stay there unchallenged even though the law was on your side 100%?

If there was no breaking and entering into the property, try getting them out. There is an interesting case in London this year, where some squatters climbed through a window of an empty house that is worth millions. If it's empty, the rule applies. If the owner had no access to it for 35 years and then the person in possession is the owner, even here. You can blame the roc for that one. The deals on the table in 70's and 80 were far better than what you are going to get now and what you are getting now is far better then what you are going to get in the future.
You comparison is not relevant. GCs tried to take the whole of Cyprus and lost the war. Now in true DT terms, you have to take like a man. His words not mime.



:shock: :shock: :shock: Yfredo, how can anyone take you seriously when you say, 'You are forgetting that possession is 90% of ownership. Add 35 years to that and Annan was the best you could have.. I can only assume that your weird sense of humour has taken over.

Please tell me its a joke and a Happy New Year to all Lurucadi's.

Happy New Year to you and all Cypriots, old man.
So long as you laughed we are ok.
Do you really believe that there is going to be a peace plan that will be better than the Annan plan. Did you not hear the bash Papaz say the other day that this new plan is worst than the Annan plan?
We have to be realistic in our expectations so we do not get disappointing at the results.
The phrase I used is a cliche which is applicable in UK. There is a case in point in London, which made the news recently. Some squatters have got in to an empty house in Victoria worth 6 million pounds through an open window (In the Mrs Abrahamovic neighborhood). No Breaking and entering was involved. The owners are going to court to try to get it back. It will be interesting to see what happens. The squatters when interviewed were not worried about the court. Judging by their behavior, they seem to know the law.
What is criminal in the roc is the fact that you as an eu citizen who left cyprus long before 74 paid all your taxes and are unable to get possession of your land. How can you take the roc seriously when there are so blatantly racist and criminal in their behavior.



Yes, I admit to having a chuckle (on a srious topic :roll: ). I also read what Chrisostomos has said to my chagrin and many Cypriots too. What realistic expectations I may have and the topic in hand are two different things.

And I agree, we are talking about Cyprus and NOT London.

But Cyprus Law is based on the English Law, is it not?
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Postby Talisker » Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:13 am

YFred wrote:Some squatters have got in to an empty house in Victoria worth 6 million pounds through an open window (In the Mrs Abrahamovic neighborhood). No Breaking and entering was involved. The owners are going to court to try to get it back. It will be interesting to see what happens. The squatters when interviewed were not worried about the court. Judging by their behavior, they seem to know the law.
What is criminal in the roc is the fact that you as an eu citizen who left cyprus long before 74 paid all your taxes and are unable to get possession of your land. How can you take the roc seriously when there are so blatantly racist and criminal in their behavior.

What lofty aspirations YFred. :roll: Aligning yourself with squatters, people who occupy someone else's property. Easy to see your lack of simple morals and integrity. You then try to excuse this with ridiculous accusations against the RoC - you really are a sad case.
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:14 am

YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Talisker wrote:
YFred wrote:
DT. wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:
boomerang wrote:it looks to me the tcs need an annan plan for themselves... :lol:


No.... The TC's need a country of their own: TRNC.


all they need to do then is find some land that belongs to them and Bob's your uncle.

You are forgetting that possession is 90% of ownership. Add 35 years to that and Annan was the best you could have. I always said that each one is slightly worse than the previous one and this next one will be no different. Mess the net one up and it's the end. Problem solved.

So if your car was stolen you would never pursue the thieves? Or if you returned home and found squatters occupying 'your' space, you would let them stay there unchallenged even though the law was on your side 100%?

If there was no breaking and entering into the property, try getting them out. There is an interesting case in London this year, where some squatters climbed through a window of an empty house that is worth millions. If it's empty, the rule applies. If the owner had no access to it for 35 years and then the person in possession is the owner, even here. You can blame the roc for that one. The deals on the table in 70's and 80 were far better than what you are going to get now and what you are getting now is far better then what you are going to get in the future.
You comparison is not relevant. GCs tried to take the whole of Cyprus and lost the war. Now in true DT terms, you have to take like a man. His words not mime.



:shock: :shock: :shock: Yfredo, how can anyone take you seriously when you say, 'You are forgetting that possession is 90% of ownership. Add 35 years to that and Annan was the best you could have.. I can only assume that your weird sense of humour has taken over.

Please tell me its a joke and a Happy New Year to all Lurucadi's.

Happy New Year to you and all Cypriots, old man.
So long as you laughed we are ok.
Do you really believe that there is going to be a peace plan that will be better than the Annan plan. Did you not hear the bash Papaz say the other day that this new plan is worst than the Annan plan?
We have to be realistic in our expectations so we do not get disappointing at the results.
The phrase I used is a cliche which is applicable in UK. There is a case in point in London, which made the news recently. Some squatters have got in to an empty house in Victoria worth 6 million pounds through an open window (In the Mrs Abrahamovic neighborhood). No Breaking and entering was involved. The owners are going to court to try to get it back. It will be interesting to see what happens. The squatters when interviewed were not worried about the court. Judging by their behavior, they seem to know the law.
What is criminal in the roc is the fact that you as an eu citizen who left cyprus long before 74 paid all your taxes and are unable to get possession of your land. How can you take the roc seriously when there are so blatantly racist and criminal in their behavior.



Yes, I admit to having a chuckle (on a srious topic :roll: ). I also read what Chrisostomos has said to my chagrin and many Cypriots too. What realistic expectations I may have and the topic in hand are two different things.

And I agree, we are talking about Cyprus and NOT London.

But Cyprus Law is based on the English Law, is it not?


Stand up for 'God save your gracious Queen then. The north is ruled by Turkey or have you not noticed. The last time I was there the currency was the TL. Not the Euro or the English punt. :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:18 am

Talisker wrote:
YFred wrote:Some squatters have got in to an empty house in Victoria worth 6 million pounds through an open window (In the Mrs Abrahamovic neighborhood). No Breaking and entering was involved. The owners are going to court to try to get it back. It will be interesting to see what happens. The squatters when interviewed were not worried about the court. Judging by their behavior, they seem to know the law.
What is criminal in the roc is the fact that you as an eu citizen who left cyprus long before 74 paid all your taxes and are unable to get possession of your land. How can you take the roc seriously when there are so blatantly racist and criminal in their behavior.

What lofty aspirations YFred. :roll: Aligning yourself with squatters, people who occupy someone else's property. Easy to see your lack of simple morals and integrity. You then try to excuse this with ridiculous accusations against the RoC - you really are a sad case.

Otherwise known as a carpetbagger… 8)
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Postby Talisker » Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:27 am

Get Real! wrote:
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YFred wrote:Some squatters have got in to an empty house in Victoria worth 6 million pounds through an open window (In the Mrs Abrahamovic neighborhood). No Breaking and entering was involved. The owners are going to court to try to get it back. It will be interesting to see what happens. The squatters when interviewed were not worried about the court. Judging by their behavior, they seem to know the law.
What is criminal in the roc is the fact that you as an eu citizen who left cyprus long before 74 paid all your taxes and are unable to get possession of your land. How can you take the roc seriously when there are so blatantly racist and criminal in their behavior.

What lofty aspirations YFred. :roll: Aligning yourself with squatters, people who occupy someone else's property. Easy to see your lack of simple morals and integrity. You then try to excuse this with ridiculous accusations against the RoC - you really are a sad case.

Otherwise known as a carpetbagger… 8)

The search for the perfectly valid excuse for theft continues - can't wait for the next installment. :roll:
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Postby Acikgoz » Wed Dec 30, 2009 2:16 pm

deniz - the north is not ruled by Turkey - if a currency tells you who rules in a country then:
Does the EU rule Britain - no as they use pounds as primary currency
Does the EU rule France - yes they use Euros as primary currency
Does the EU rule Cyprus - yes they use Euros as primary currency
Obviously ludicrous.
- The utility of the Euro by "nation state" is based on monetary considerations and management by the ECB.
There is democracy in the North, if the people do not want Turkey involved then they can vote them out. Note, the polls are not suggesting a departure from Turkey but a moving closer. It is the will of the people it is democracy, what our neighbours keep insisting it tantamount.
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