Oracle wrote:insan wrote:Oracle wrote:insan wrote:zmx wrote:insan wrote:
The case simply arises from cultural differences.. like urban TCs don't like to have close relations with rural TCs and vice versa... It's impossible such a situation leads to violence between Turks and TCs.
Hardly.
Up until very recent times there was hardly a solely "urban" population in Cyprus in the first place.
Even those who lived in towns still had strong connections to the countryside and the rural lifestyle, so the lifestyles of the urban and rural populations wasnt great enough for there to be a social divide between the two.
Well.. believe it or not... I'm the TC who experienced the townee-villager discrimination... even when we(urban TCs) get angry with any of our village-rooted elders; we accuse them still bearing the old, stupid villager mentality.
zmx, if u r not a TC, u can't claim that u know better than me...
Well then your claims for a separate state based on differences between GCs and TCs is totally stupid. Differences exist within all spheres. So get out of the north and stop demanding your own state! Or are you going to make mini-statelets between urbanites and ruralites? Learn to be tolerant and treat people as equals.
Gawd you are so pathetic ....
Keep abusing the issues for ur self-interests which makes u run around the same circle and go nowhere...
The circle we need to break is the treadmill the TCs are pedalling. Some things do not change so quickly. The disharmony the TCs express now (to justify demanding a separate, personal state), which is having to share the north with Turks, has echoes of what they claim they had to put up with from GCs in the 60's. From this we can conclude the TCs are intolerant of others. They obviously need to change since this brave new world requires acceptance of others if you are to survive. Moreover, this is conclusive proof that there is no justification for segregation based on GC attitudes to TCs. It's the TCs who need to address their expectations.
This poll by Alexandros Lordos team proves u wrong, O. Most of the times ur arguements were proven wrong but oddly enough u still keep repeating the same rhetorics...
THE MAJORITY of Greek and Turkish Cypriots have no hope at all that the negotiating process will succeed in delivering a comprehensive settlement, a recent survey has found.
Sixty-one per cent of Greek Cypriots and 58 per cent Turkish Cypriots said they had no hope that talks between the leaders of the two communities would yield any positive results.
Hope was expressed by 15 per cent of Greek Cypriots and 16 per cent of Turkish Cypriots while around 25 per cent of those asked from both communities were undecided.
However, the majority of people from both communities – 69 per cent Greek Cypriots and 42 per cent Turkish Cypriots – said they would like to see the talks conclude successfully with a comprehensive settlement.
A large number of Turkish Cypriots though, 34 per cent compared to 17 per cent Greek Cypriots, prefer nothing comes of the peace process.
To the question of what they would vote in a future referendum, assuming a settlement plan is drafted, the two communities show a similar orientation: about a fifth of Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots are committed ‘Yes’ voters while about a quarter of Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots are committed ‘No’ voters.
“Everyone else is a swing vote to a greater or a lesser degree,” said research coordinator Alexandros Lordos. Where the undecided will go “is the challenge of the future.”
Younger Greek Cypriots are more likely to vote ‘No’ in a future referendum, though even in that age group, 35 per cent is open to the possibility of voting ‘Yes’.
Among Turkish Cypriots, older individuals, age 65 and above, displayed the strongest trend towards a ‘No’ vote.
In relation to the talks, Greek Cypriots primarily trusted their own Leader, Demetris Christofias, and the European Union, though even for these actors a significant number of skeptics exists.
Some 76 per cent have no confidence at all in Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat.
In contrast, Greek Cypriots strongly mistrust the governments of the United Kingdom and Turkey.
Turkish Cypriots on the other hand, primarily trust the government of Turkey, and to a lesser extent their own leader.
The EU comes third, though in its case half of Turkish Cypriots declare skepticism.
Least trusted is the “Greek side”, represented by the government of Greece and Christofias.
The survey found that Greek Cypriots identify strongly with their Greek cultural roots though many have now abandoned the notion of Greece as the motherland.
“If you asked that question 30 years ago the results would have been totally different,” Lordos said.
In contrast, Turkish Cypriots remain loyal to Turkey as a motherland. Some 66 per cent believe or somewhat believe that Cyprus historically is Turkish, while 83 per cent of Greek Cypriots believe or somewhat believe Cyprus is historically Greek..
The survey was carried out new research initiative Cyprus 2015, which called for increased dialogue within and between the two communities.
“Our aim is to contribute to a creative and constructive social debate for the long-term sustainable future of Cyprus,” Cyprus 2015 said.
The poll canvassed 1,000 Greek and 1,000 Turkish Cypriots between October 6 and November 6, 2009 through face to face interviews in the native languages of the respondents.
http://cyprus-mail.com/cyprus/poll-litt ... n/20091219
