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Postby paliometoxo » Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:18 pm

i imagine many are happy with the way things are they have adjusted.. but i think they should have the choise to move exchange lands back with the tc/gs or stay or whatever they agree with the land owners..

instead of forced to accepting one way only.. there will always be someone unhappy that way

atm i think most tcs in the south stay in limassol.
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Postby Malapapa » Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:40 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
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Viewpoint wrote:Provide evidence to back up your claim, the only thing being proposed is those who have built their lives here for over 35 years be allowed to stay,


Built their lives for over 35 years? That would mean only people who came in or before 1974, which makes no sense.

I recall a leader saying, (I assume it was Talat but I may be mistaken) that the settlers are "TRNC" citizens and should continue to be citizens after a solution. Why are they being allowed to vote for a solution for Cyprus if they will be required to leave afterwards?

Viewpoint wrote:isnt it the same in the EU? what do we do with the Pontian Greeks?


Are the numbers comparable? Aren't they already EU citizens, in which case, what can we do?


So does that mean one rule for you and another for us.

Are you willing to apply EU regulations with regards to those who wish to stay in a united Cyprus?


If EU norms and principles were to apply throughout the island I would be satisfied.
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Postby Tim Drayton » Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:45 am

paliometoxo wrote:in larnaka.. our new airport in larnaka is no longer on the tc land :) which means the tc land.. i dont know what they will do with it now.. maybe give back to the owner?


I had never thought of that. Could this be the real reason for building the new airport?
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Postby -mikkie2- » Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:58 am

pontian greeks in cyprus are greek citizens, not RoC citizens. They can vote in local elections but not national elections. They wont be voting in a referendum as opposed to the 'trnc citizens' who will pretty much hold the deciding votes in a referendum for unification.
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Postby paliometoxo » Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:26 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:in larnaka.. our new airport in larnaka is no longer on the tc land :) which means the tc land.. i dont know what they will do with it now.. maybe give back to the owner?


I had never thought of that. Could this be the real reason for building the new airport?


i guess we will see. but VP suggests they are using the same runways in the new airport. i did not know that
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:52 pm

Malapapa wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Provide evidence to back up your claim, the only thing being proposed is those who have built their lives here for over 35 years be allowed to stay,


Built their lives for over 35 years? That would mean only people who came in or before 1974, which makes no sense.

I recall a leader saying, (I assume it was Talat but I may be mistaken) that the settlers are "TRNC" citizens and should continue to be citizens after a solution. Why are they being allowed to vote for a solution for Cyprus if they will be required to leave afterwards?

Viewpoint wrote:isnt it the same in the EU? what do we do with the Pontian Greeks?


Are the numbers comparable? Aren't they already EU citizens, in which case, what can we do?


So does that mean one rule for you and another for us.

Are you willing to apply EU regulations with regards to those who wish to stay in a united Cyprus?


If EU norms and principles were to apply throughout the island I would be satisfied.


So you agree to apply EU laws to the settlers on both sides of the divide that arrived after 1974? That was 5 years residency gives you the right to citizenship, am I right?
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:54 pm

-mikkie2- wrote:pontian greeks in cyprus are greek citizens, not RoC citizens. They can vote in local elections but not national elections. They wont be voting in a referendum as opposed to the 'trnc citizens' who will pretty much hold the deciding votes in a referendum for unification.


So you wont mind this claim being checked out with the same rules that we agree to apply to settlers in the north being applied to those in the south? that arrived after 1974.
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Postby Expatkiwi » Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:56 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
-mikkie2- wrote:pontian greeks in cyprus are greek citizens, not RoC citizens. They can vote in local elections but not national elections. They wont be voting in a referendum as opposed to the 'trnc citizens' who will pretty much hold the deciding votes in a referendum for unification.


So you wont mind this claim being checked out with the same rules that we agree to apply to settlers in the north being applied to those in the south? that arrived after 1974.


Voters should be restricted to those born IN Cyprus before 1974, and open to the disapora. That way, no migrant mess...
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Postby boomerang » Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:38 am

Expatkiwi wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
-mikkie2- wrote:pontian greeks in cyprus are greek citizens, not RoC citizens. They can vote in local elections but not national elections. They wont be voting in a referendum as opposed to the 'trnc citizens' who will pretty much hold the deciding votes in a referendum for unification.


So you wont mind this claim being checked out with the same rules that we agree to apply to settlers in the north being applied to those in the south? that arrived after 1974.


Voters should be restricted to those born IN Cyprus before 1974, and open to the disapora. That way, no migrant mess...


have you run this with your penpall by any chance?... :lol:
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Postby Oracle » Thu Dec 31, 2009 1:31 am

Viewpoint wrote:
-mikkie2- wrote:pontian greeks in cyprus are greek citizens, not RoC citizens. They can vote in local elections but not national elections. They wont be voting in a referendum as opposed to the 'trnc citizens' who will pretty much hold the deciding votes in a referendum for unification.


So you wont mind this claim being checked out with the same rules that we agree to apply to settlers in the north being applied to those in the south? that arrived after 1974.


Your illegal "settlers" are not EU nationals unlike the Pontians who are Greek (EU) nationals and perfectly entitled to stay in any EU country.

Face it; your illegal immigrants ("settlers") have to go back to Turkey. They have never had "residency" permits from the only legitimate government in Cyprus, the RoC
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