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[Me Ed]

Ok, as a GC let me try and add something constructive to the debate on the settlers.

Let's say that a solution is found and a part of the condition was that the current settlers can stay.

Now, the issue is what about a TC/settler that is currently a GC property and the GC has all the necessary deeds etc.

Would say a solution condition where the TC/settler can pay the GC rent for say up to 10 years, ample time for the TC/settler can sort their own property.

After 10 years, the GC can then ask the TC/settler to either leave, extend the lease or even sell the property.

This solution would also be valid the other way round where a GC is currently residing in a TC property.

Would such a solution be agreeable to the TCs/settlers?

[repulsewarrior]

i consider the settlers, in general, as victims of Turkish design. for many, they live a life in limbo specifically because they are being used for a political end by their master. i think, to answer your question vp, that TCs recognise the paradox, agree that many must return with any kind of settlement, but that an accomodation must be made for the people who want to be Cypriot, as citizens, who have established a relationship with others where they can be identified as such.

i believe that Turkish Cypriots want to return to their Patrimony, just as Greek Cypriots do, and i also believe that this is a normal desire as do all Human Beings. i think that the Rights of the displaced whether from the 60's or 70's should be central to the leadership's discussion. they should rise above the demands of the interlocutors to demonstrate the Principals that as Human Beings, all Cypriots support, rather than taking the adversarial position of being "Greeks" or "Turks". i think that TCs like GCs support this view,unless they are firmly entrenched in a bigotry which serves their exclusivity.

I think that TCs and GCs want to live in a State where as Individuals they are equals, and where that State is stong and duty bound to defend their Individual Rights without discrimination. I think that TCs like GCs would be satisfied to be represented in their Internal Affairs as Persons in National Assemblies where they can sustain their identity and where they can demonstrate as Persons their goodwill to the minorities which live amongst them.

...please read my manifesto.

cheers!

[Viewpoint]

Provide evidence to back up your claim, the only thing being proposed is those who have built their lives here for over 35 years be allowed to stay,

Built their lives for over 35 years? That would mean only people who came in or before 1974, which makes no sense.

I recall a leader saying, (I assume it was Talat but I may be mistaken) that the settlers are "TRNC" citizens and should continue to be citizens after a solution. Why are they being allowed to vote for a solution for Cyprus if they will be required to leave afterwards?

isnt it the same in the EU? what do we do with the Pontian Greeks?

Are the numbers comparable? Aren't they already EU citizens, in which case, what can we do?

So does that mean one rule for you and another for us.

Are you willing to apply EU regulations with regards to those who wish to stay in a united Cyprus?

Anyone who have built their life on both sides of Cyprus for over 10 years should be accpeted as citizens, those married to locals should also be allowed to stay. These rules should apply to all those that arrived after 1974 of any origin.

[Viewpoint]

Ok, as a GC let me try and add something constructive to the debate on the settlers.

Let's say that a solution is found and a part of the condition was that the current settlers can stay.

Now, the issue is what about a TC/settler that is currently a GC property and the GC has all the necessary deeds etc.

Would say a solution condition where the TC/settler can pay the GC rent for say up to 10 years, ample time for the TC/settler can sort their own property.

After 10 years, the GC can then ask the TC/settler to either leave, extend the lease or even sell the property.

This solution would also be valid the other way round where a GC is currently residing in a TC property.

Would such a solution be agreeable to the TCs/settlers?

I think the majority of TCs would agree to this on the understanding that their property in the south would be returned or rented again along the same lines. They should also have the option to sell or exchange with the current resident if they have no intention of returning.

[paliometoxo]

i want to know if the airport land will be given back since the airport moved

[Viewpoint]

i want to know if the airport land will be given back since the airport moved

Which airport?

[paliometoxo]

in larnaka.. our new airport in larnaka is no longer on the tc land which means the tc land.. i dont know what they will do with it now.. maybe give back to the owner?

[Viewpoint]

in larnaka.. our new airport in larnaka is no longer on the tc land which means the tc land.. i dont know what they will do with it now.. maybe give back to the owner?

I thought is was the new one that was built on TC land and arent they linked, the runway is still the same isnt it?

[paliometoxo]

i dont know but i know we went a completely different way to go there so i assumed it was all different land.. i guess i may be mistaken

[Viewpoint]

i dont know but i know we went a completely different way to go there so i assumed it was all different land.. i guess i may be mistaken

People from both sides where their land has been used will have to accept compensation. Do you think that all the GC refugees housed in Limasol on TC land should be kicked off and the land returned to the TC? These people have built their lives there.