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Postby Malapapa » Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:14 am

Viewpoint wrote: do you have any clues as to where the average TC stands on the issue of settlers(new generation Tcs)??


You keep on asking the question as though casting dispersions at those unable to read the the mind of the "average TC".

I personally cannot fathom what is going on in the mind of the "average TC". To me, this mind displays abnormalities in both perceiving and expressing reality akin to a collective schizophrenia.

Why don't you tell us where the "average TC" stands on the issue of settlers?
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:23 am

Malapapa wrote:
Viewpoint wrote: do you have any clues as to where the average TC stands on the issue of settlers(new generation Tcs)??


You keep on asking the question as though casting dispersions at those unable to read the the mind of the "average TC".

I personally cannot fathom what is going on in the mind of the "average TC". To me, this mind displays abnormalities in both perceiving and expressing reality akin to a collective schizophrenia.

Why don't you tell us where the "average TC" stands on the issue of settlers?


You mean you have been deabating issues with a number of TCs on this forum for years yet you still know nothing about what they think, whats the use of repeating things when you do not take notice. This is why we cannot find a solution because you obviously dont know what our standpoint is then how can you solve them? You have revealed the way GCs think ignore what everyone else states just stick to what you know be it wrong or right.
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Postby Malapapa » Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:29 am

Viewpoint wrote:You mean you have been deabating issues with a number of TCs on this forum for years


Hardly years.... a few months.

Viewpoint wrote: yet you still know nothing about what they think, whats the use of repeating things when you do not take notice.


I've not seen a TC view expressed about the settlers, other than Talat's which is they are citizens of the "TRNC" and should all stay after a solution.

Viewpoint wrote: This is why we cannot find a solution because you obviously dont know what our standpoint is then how can you solve them? You have revealed the way GCs think ignore what everyone else states just stick to what you know be it wrong or right.


Why don't you just tell me what the "average TC" thinks about the settlers? Or provide me with a link to a discussion if these views have been aired before? It would be a lot easier than casting unnecessary dispersions.
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:38 am

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Hardly years.... a few months.



Maybe for you but it doesnt seem to make any difference as GCs who have been debating much longer than you still dont have a clue.

I've not seen a TC view expressed about the settlers, other than Talat's which is they are citizens of the "TRNC" and should all stay after a solution.


Dont you think it important to find out what it is these people you keep attacking and degrading think on this issue and other important to solving our differencies?

Why don't you just tell me what the "average TC" thinks about the settlers? Or provide me with a link to a discussion if these views have been aired before? It would be a lot easier than casting unnecessary dispersions.


This is clear proof that you people are intrangient and oblivious to anyone elses viewpoint being the main reason why we cannot bridge the chasm between the 2 sides.
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Postby Expatkiwi » Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:49 am

Viewpoint, I'd be surprised if any large numbers of Turkish Cypriots would be supportive of the Anatolian Settlers in the TRNC.
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:56 am

Expatkiwi wrote:Viewpoint, I'd be surprised if any large numbers of Turkish Cypriots would be supportive of the Anatolian Settlers in the TRNC.


Well done Expat at least someone has understood something that we have been saying thank you.
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Postby Malapapa » Mon Dec 28, 2009 1:17 am

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Expatkiwi wrote:Viewpoint, I'd be surprised if any large numbers of Turkish Cypriots would be supportive of the Anatolian Settlers in the TRNC.


Well done Expat at least someone has understood something that we have been saying thank you.



Great. Most Cypriots agree on this issue. So what do you propose we do about it, given that your leader is insisting they are all "TRNC" citizens and should stay? And what sort of a leader expresses a view that the people he is supposed to represent is not supportive of?
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Dec 28, 2009 1:28 am

Malapapa wrote:
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Expatkiwi wrote:Viewpoint, I'd be surprised if any large numbers of Turkish Cypriots would be supportive of the Anatolian Settlers in the TRNC.


Well done Expat at least someone has understood something that we have been saying thank you.



Great. Most Cypriots agree on this issue. So what do you propose we do about it, given that your leader is insisting they are all "TRNC" citizens and should stay? And what sort of a leader expresses a view that the people he is supposed to represent is not supportive of?


Provide evidence to back up your claim, the only thing being proposed is those who have built their lives here for over 35 years be allowed to stay, isnt it the same in the EU? what do we do with the Pontian Greeks?
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Postby Expatkiwi » Mon Dec 28, 2009 1:42 am

Malapapa wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:Viewpoint, I'd be surprised if any large numbers of Turkish Cypriots would be supportive of the Anatolian Settlers in the TRNC.


Well done Expat at least someone has understood something that we have been saying thank you.



Great. Most Cypriots agree on this issue. So what do you propose we do about it, given that your leader is insisting they are all "TRNC" citizens and should stay? And what sort of a leader expresses a view that the people he is supposed to represent is not supportive of?


From what I understand, the issue of Anatolian migration was the first major bone of contention between Turkey and TRNC after Talat came to power. If Talat is saying that they are all TRNC citizens, then I would have to surmise that he had been "brought around" to the pro-migration position. This despite the fact that the Anatolian migrants have been contributing to the unemployment in the TRNC, not to mention the increase in crime...
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Postby Malapapa » Mon Dec 28, 2009 2:13 am

Viewpoint wrote:Provide evidence to back up your claim, the only thing being proposed is those who have built their lives here for over 35 years be allowed to stay,


Built their lives for over 35 years? That would mean only people who came in or before 1974, which makes no sense.

I recall a leader saying, (I assume it was Talat but I may be mistaken) that the settlers are "TRNC" citizens and should continue to be citizens after a solution. Why are they being allowed to vote for a solution for Cyprus if they will be required to leave afterwards?

Viewpoint wrote:isnt it the same in the EU? what do we do with the Pontian Greeks?


Are the numbers comparable? Aren't they already EU citizens, in which case, what can we do?
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