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[Malapapa]

A number of contributors on the CF problem section display some or all of these symptoms:

Malapropism ... you are starting to sound like someone with nothing better to do ...

Care to help me stuff the Turkey?

It's already stuffed...

And by now you've been cooked!

This thread isn't meant for you, yialoser. One requires a brain before one can have a mental disorder.

[denizaksulu]

good point. i stand corrected

Palio, you are starting to sound like an English gentleman!

Perhaps he is familiar with an English Rose/Lady

[Expatkiwi]

2010 may be the final chance for a while. Here's an interesting article from today's Daily Telegraph:

Cyprus peace talks: Greek and Turkish leaders turn to kitchen table diplomacy
Greek and Turkish leaders in Cyprus are to embark on a new round of "kitchen table diplomacy" in the New Year in an attempt to reach a breakthrough agreement before elections on the northern side of the island in April.

By Damien McElroy, Foreign Affairs Correspondent
Published: 6:00AM GMT 29 Dec 2009

Greek Cypriot President Demetris Christofias (L) with Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat (R) Photo: EPA
But the opportunity to forge an agreement to heal the 35 year division of the island is in jeopardy if UN-sponsored talks fail to gain momentum within days, Mehmet Ali Talat, the president of the Turkish enclave in the north, told the Daily Telegraph.

Mr Talat and President Dimitris Christofias, the Greek leader, have met 55 times since September 2008 but have agreed to throw off the shackles of aides and note-takers in a last ditch effort to make peace. Both men are widely regarded as doves, who are determined to seal a deal.

"The pace of the talks is too slow. We need a quicker round of talks in early 2010," Mr Talat said. "So we have agreed that we will hold three days of all day talks in our own homes in a relaxed atmosphere without the disturbance of minute takers and officials. That way we will have the opportunity to concentrate on the most difficult issues."

The initiative has been praised by Alexander Downer, the UN-appointed Cyprus mediator and a former Australian foreign minister. "January is going to be a very important point in this whole negotiating process," he said. "They've made very steady progress over the last 15 months, but in January there's a real opportunity to make very significant strides forward."

Cyprus has been divided since 1974, when the Turkish army invaded after a Greek-backed coup. Reconciliation efforts have not recovered from the defeat of a 2004 referendum in the south. Despite rejecting the internationally-backed pact, the southern half entered the European Union and has since used its position as a bargaining chip by obstructing negotiations over Turkish entry into the EU.

The role of Brussels on the island has become highly contenious. "The EU is not impartial. The EU is biased by the Greek Cypriot position, which has been benefited financially, technically and legally," Mr Talat said. "It is impossible to expect any Turkish government to agree to an arrangement which does not take into account its national position. Any agreement without Turkey is not a viable or durable solution for the island."

Mr Christofias, the Greek leader, is a former Marxist who was a lifelong opponent of Tassos Papadopoulos, the previous hardline president who campaigned against a referendum in 2004. Mr Christofias won the presidential election in 2008 on a campaign pledge to revitalise reunification negotiations. Mr Papadopoulos was so hated by the Turks that there were celebrations earlier this month after his body was stolen from its grave.

But Mr Talat has also been criticised by nationalists who believe he is too conciliatory to handle delicate talks that will affect the Turkish military presence on the island. When he formally declares his campaign to run for re-election as the Turkish leader in the April presidential election, he will face a strong challenge from the hardline prime minister, Dervis Eroglu.

The Turkish military is already suspicious of the willingness of its Cypriot allies to compromise so that the enclave shakes off its pariah status. "We gave a hand, they took an arm," said one Ankara official.

Mr Talat's most recent proposal to entice a Greek agreement was strongly criticised by Turkish officials as a "terrifying" concession. In talks that centre on a Swiss-style confederation in which the two sides become self governing cantons within a single republic, Mr Talat is prepared to give Greeks 20 per cent of the vote in the north.

But Cypriot voters will judge any agreement on the mechanism it proposes to enable displaced citizens to recover property lost in the invasion. Despite the slow progress, Greek Cypriots fear that reunification will become an impossible dream after the generation who lost their homes in 1974 dies out. "If we can't solve this problem, life will solve it," wrote Makarios Drousiotis, a Greek Cypriot commentator.

[Malapapa]

2010 may be the final chance for a while. Here's an interesting article from today's Daily Telegraph:

Mr Talat said. "It is impossible to expect any Turkish government to agree to an arrangement which does not take into account its national position. Any agreement without Turkey is not a viable or durable solution for the island."

But Mr Talat has also been criticised by nationalists who believe he is too conciliatory to handle delicate talks that will affect the Turkish military presence on the island. When he formally declares his campaign to run for re-election as the Turkish leader in the April presidential election, he will face a strong challenge from the hardline prime minister, Dervis Eroglu.

The Turkish military is already suspicious of the willingness of its Cypriot allies to compromise so that the enclave shakes off its pariah status. "We gave a hand, they took an arm," said one Ankara official.

What's interesting is how clear it is, to any objective outsider with an ounce of intelligence, that a solution BY Cypriots FOR Cypriots is made impossible by Turkey's military.

[YFred]

2010 may be the final chance for a while. Here's an interesting article from today's Daily Telegraph:

Mr Talat said. "It is impossible to expect any Turkish government to agree to an arrangement which does not take into account its national position. Any agreement without Turkey is not a viable or durable solution for the island."

But Mr Talat has also been criticised by nationalists who believe he is too conciliatory to handle delicate talks that will affect the Turkish military presence on the island. When he formally declares his campaign to run for re-election as the Turkish leader in the April presidential election, he will face a strong challenge from the hardline prime minister, Dervis Eroglu.

The Turkish military is already suspicious of the willingness of its Cypriot allies to compromise so that the enclave shakes off its pariah status. "We gave a hand, they took an arm," said one Ankara official.

What's interesting is how clear it is, to any objective outsider with an ounce of intelligence, that a solution BY Cypriots FOR Cypriots is made impossible by Turkey's military.

You continue with that mentality and it will be 2 states, sooner or later. When the majority of TCs call for their removal then you have the right to complain, till then you have to respect the choice of majority TCs.

[Malapapa]

You continue with that mentality and it will be 2 states, sooner or later.

What mentality? I didn't write the article or make the statements.

When the majority of TCs call for their removal then you have the right to complain, till then you have to respect the choice of majority TCs.

With respect, the choice of the vast majority of Cypriots, those free to choose without interference, want Turkey's military removed. Why don't you respect the choice of the majority?

[YFred]

You continue with that mentality and it will be 2 states, sooner or later.

What mentality? I didn't write the article or make the statements.

When the majority of TCs call for their removal then you have the right to complain, till then you have to respect the choice of majority TCs.

With respect, the choice of the vast majority of Cypriots, those free to choose without interference, want Turkey's military removed. Why don't you respect the choice of the majority?

I was under the impression that the majority rule in cyprus was respected for 3 years and found wanting, when the GC top knobs decided to have a meeting after 3 months to devise a plan for the destruction of the republic to facilitate the annexation with greece.
Did I dream that set of events.
Which is why in reality the two populations are approving things separately an not as one.

[B25]

Hadeh reh Insan. Sod the past and join us in the modern-day National Liberation Struggle.

Make the Resolution mate, you know it makes sense.

EOKA

Thta name is from a disastrous past which in the first place reminds the past and the Cyprus tragedy.. Be creative and create a new name m8... then I can consider joining or not...

Respect our(TC and GC left) sensitivities m8... everything starts with respecting... continues with uniting on common interests and collaborating to materialize it...

U can even ask to malapapa... he considers himself pure mental recently...

I've got a mental idea! Let's call the struggle to furnish the north with European living standards:

Oxi Vreh MP, didn't you know the Turks have banned IKEA in the north. The confiscate anything IKEA going over Stupid bastards

[Viewpoint]

We have enough furniture (much better quality) in the north why do we want your imported shit?

[Expatkiwi]

We have enough furniture (much better quality) in the north why do we want your imported shit?

VP, Don't waste your time responding to either him, or Boomerang. I'm simply going to ignore every non-constructive comment that either of them make from here on out.