YFred wrote:BirKibrisli wrote:Malapapa wrote:Acikgoz wrote:Malap, you continue to ask for your points to be addressed, but will not say from whose perspective. To say GC point of view would undermine the purpose of your thread as you'd be shown to be self-interested, but to say from both perspectives opens you up to real situations that have arisen in the context of the Cyprus situation which would again undermine your position.
Why don't you address the concerns all free Cypriots would have, including TCs living in the free areas or in other parts of the free world, and stop worrying about perspectives? I am coming at this from a human perspective.
So you want your points addressed from a "human perspective",Malapapa???
which human prespective are you talking about???The one exibited daily on this forum??? The racist,intolerant,bigoted human perspective???I will give it a go...
1. What hard won freedoms are you talking about??? All the GCs ever did was betray their motherland by wanting to unite it with a foreign power,Greece...You should thank those brave TCs who stood in your way,in the way of ENOSIS,and kiss Turkey's hand for finally giving you the opportunity to become True Cypriots and finally appreciate what it is like to be downtrotten in your own country.....
2.What is good for the goose...If the TCs can be forced to run away and give up their own properties in the South,the GCs should not complain too much about their own properties in the North...
3. The conditions present in Cyprus cannot be found in any other EU country...We do not have an oppressive majority who for 11 years(63-74) turned a blind I to the suffering of the minority,and encouraged them to leave their motherland,in their version of the final solution,when the Hitler version proved too difficult to emulate....
4.Universal suffrage is a luxury we cannot afford in Cyprus...Because the majority of Cypriots proved themselves uncapable of respecting the human rights of their minority,and forced them to live in fear of pysical extermination, massacres,rapes, and such attrocities,for 11 long years...The majority of Cypriots have added insult to injury by refusing to admit that such treatment was handed to the minority when they had them in their power...
5. Turkey's influence in Cyprus is not new. It goes back to 1571 when the Ottoman's liberated the local population from the Venitian yoke,and went on to provide the most tolerant of all imperial rules,proven by the fact that when they relinguished their rule, more than 300 years later,the GC majority was very much in tact....
6...Turkey's intervention in 74 saved Cyprus from a fate worse than death,to be in the mercy of the Junta in Greece and its local murderous puppets...a lot of Greek Cypriots and all TCs were in danger of massacres and worse abuse of human rights which the brave Turkish soldiers have prevented...why be afraid of such a well meaning neighbour if you do not have evil plans on your fellow Cypriots....???
Now put these in your pipe and smoke it,Malapapa...Because the average TC thinks just like what I have written above...Keep on treating them as second class Cypriots,or pretenders, cowardly collaborators of a foreign power and you will sign your own death warrants...Talking about human rights and democracy is all well,but it would be more believable if you showed the slightest empathy for the TC plight when they were really down and out...Democracy is a regime which cannot be sustained without one fundamental human right,the right to free speech...The way you have been treating the likes of Bananiot and Expat who are only trying to practise their most democratic right makes you all unsavory characters who cannot be trusted to run a democratic state...
Bir If I may add one more point to your list above, Turkey invaded Cyprus and yet the GC administration has chosen to suffocate the TC economy in the name of liberating it. If this mentality is not the sickest I have ever come across I don't know what is.
In the mean time the bash patriots keep paying lip service to democracy and human rights. It is Xmas after all, may I offer an alternative to smoking for my bash patriots. Perhaps they can roll it up in a cylindrical shape and I do believe they are familiar as to what to do with it next.
For the rest of my GC friends have a very Very Xmas.
So let me get this straight. Turkey invades Cyprus and hijacks the local economy there (cypriot land, cypriot agriculture, cypriot tourism, cypriot manufacturing).
The Govt from the free part of the island has chosen to "suffocate" as you put it the "tc" economy.
Lets start with defining this famous tc economy. Is it based on TC land for real estate investment? Is it based on TC agricultural land for farming? Is it based out of TC hotels for tourism?
When did this tc economy come to being? What raw materials did it use? What happened to the cypriot economy in the north?
Who do you consider sick? The GC refugee that pays taxes after starting his life all over again? The GC refugee that remembers 3 generations of his family owning the hotel that you claim is being suffocated under its new turkish ownership? The self declared republic on someone else's land?
The embargoe on IKEA? The embargo on EU diaries? The fact that you have an army in offensive formation while opposite you is an army in defensive formation?
I could go on.
