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[Malapapa]

No you do not, stop kidding yourself and others.

Stop telling me how I think or feel... Don't judge me by your own amoral standards.

If you did there would be no ifs and buts. Only but I on is on a backside.

If I did sympathise, what exactly? I'd accept these?

• jeopardize hard fought freedoms secured by EU membership?
• give away human right to properties belonging to me in the north?
• accept derogations to EU law which no other EU citizens would countenance?
• relinquish the principle of universal suffrage?
• open the door for Turkey to interfere in the domestic affairs of the whole island?
• give Turkey's military the right to intervene once more, as it did in 1974 with disastrous consequences?

Stop talking out of your butt.

[Oracle]

More and more, the TCs appear like the outsiders which, perhaps, they have always been. Their greed and determination to split Cyprus is really hurtful because it's bad enough they live in our country and don't want to integrate, but to steal half of it from us in this way, when their real country, Turkey, has such an excess of land is very inconsiderate.

I don't like them ... I'm just looking forward to freedom for my country and equality for all. Hopefully they can improve themselves (I have hopes) so that they don't look too shabby next to our next generation of Cypriots, because as for my generation of TCs, I don't think I have anything in common with them .... And, if I did, I would work on improving it.

[B25]

...what do you want Cypriots in the free part of Cyprus to do?

TCs say they find themselves between a rock and a hard place, untrusting of the Republic of Cyprus, unhappy with accepting "minority status", unwilling to risk becoming "second class citizens in their own homeland".

In the north meanwhile Turkey is eroding their culture, their education and career prospects, their secular traditions, their salaries, their very right to call themselves Cypriots. This is all very sad.

But what do you expect Cypriots free from Turkey's iron grip to do?

• jeopardize hard fought freedoms secured by EU membership?
• give away their human right to properties belonging to them in the north?
• accept derogations to EU law which no other EU citizens would countenance?
• relinquish the principle of universal suffrage?
• open the door for Turkey to interfere in the domestic affairs of the whole island?
• give Turkey's military the right to intervene once more, as it did in 1974 with disastrous consequences?

Do you honestly expect any free Cypriot in their right mind to vote "Yes" to this?

Bananiot vote yes to these, he DEMANDS that we accept them, otherwise we are bash patriots and cretins.

He would wish this ill on the GC community to satify his Turkish buddies.

Go figure.

[Viewpoint]

No you do not, stop kidding yourself and others.

Stop telling me how I think or feel... Don't judge me by your own amoral standards.

If you did there would be no ifs and buts. Only but I on is on a backside.

If I did sympathise, what exactly? I'd accept these?

• jeopardize hard fought freedoms secured by EU membership?
• give away human right to properties belonging to me in the north?
• accept derogations to EU law which no other EU citizens would countenance?
• relinquish the principle of universal suffrage?
• open the door for Turkey to interfere in the domestic affairs of the whole island?
• give Turkey's military the right to intervene once more, as it did in 1974 with disastrous consequences?

Stop talking out of your butt.

Dream on...this is all in your imagination and these are excuses for not finding a solution the world is realizing exactly who is bullshiting and it aint the TCs.

[Malapapa]

Bananiot vote yes to these, he DEMANDS that we accept them, otherwise we are bash patriots and cretins.

He would wish this ill on the GC community to satify his Turkish buddies.

Go figure.

My own view is that the only way to help the long-suffering TCs is to stand firm against any solution that waters down hard-earned rights and freedoms secured for all Cypriots by EU accession. I call it tough love.

[Malapapa]

Dream on...this is all in your imagination

Rubbish. These are Turkey's so-called Red Lines.

and these are excuses for not finding a solution the world is realizing exactly who is bullshiting and it aint the TCs.

The world, which you have no direct access to because of the stanglehold Turkey has you in, realises no such thing. And even if the world perceives it is free Cypriots who are bullshitting, which it doesn't, what good does this do you?

Please explain, point by point, why what I say isn't true for free Cypriots in the agreement Turkey is insisting on. I'll repeat them one more time for you:

• jeopardize hard fought freedoms secured by EU membership?
• give away their human right to properties belonging to them in the north?
• accept derogations to EU law which no other EU citizens would countenance?
• relinquish the principle of universal suffrage?
• open the door for Turkey to interfere in the domestic affairs of the whole island?
• give Turkey's military the right to intervene once more, as it did in 1974 with disastrous consequences?

[Viewpoint]

Bananiot vote yes to these, he DEMANDS that we accept them, otherwise we are bash patriots and cretins.

He would wish this ill on the GC community to satify his Turkish buddies.

Go figure.

My own view is that the only way to help the long-suffering TCs is to stand firm against any solution that waters down hard-earned rights and freedoms secured for all Cypriots by EU accession. I call it tough love.

Yeah yeah stand frimly for division as you have still not realized that your mindset has not given what you total control over the whole island with us as just any minority at your mercy...we will never accept this as the GCs cannot be trusted with democracy and human rights whish can easily be manipulated to support hidden agendas at which the GCs are experts.

[B25]

Bananiot vote yes to these, he DEMANDS that we accept them, otherwise we are bash patriots and cretins.

He would wish this ill on the GC community to satify his Turkish buddies.

Go figure.

My own view is that the only way to help the long-suffering TCs is to stand firm against any solution that waters down hard-earned rights and freedoms secured for all Cypriots by EU accession. I call it tough love.

Amen:

[Malapapa]

Yeah yeah stand frimly for division as you have still not realized that your mindset has not given what you total control over the whole island with us as just any minority at your mercy...we will never accept this as the GCs cannot be trusted with democracy and human rights whish can easily be manipulated to support hidden agendas at which the GCs are experts.

Stop repeating the tired old VP mantra and address the points I have put to you, one by one. Put my mind at rest that this isn't the agreement Turkey wants. Convince free Cypriots to vote "Yes".

[Viewpoint]

Yeah yeah stand frimly for division as you have still not realized that your mindset has not given what you total control over the whole island with us as just any minority at your mercy...we will never accept this as the GCs cannot be trusted with democracy and human rights whish can easily be manipulated to support hidden agendas at which the GCs are experts.

Stop repeating the tired old VP mantra and address the points I have put to you, one by one. Put my mind at rest that this isn't the agreement Turkey wants. Convince free Cypriots to vote "Yes".

You dont have the capacity to vote YES to jack shit, so dont kid yourselves the chasm is to wide to bridge time you realized this fact and moved on to understanding that you cannot get us to capitulate to your demands and dump the TRNC for minority status in a GC state run by GCs, we can have that tomorrow by just moving south but no one does, that speaks volumes its just that you GCs are so deaf from your own crap that you cannot see anything.