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Postby james_mav » Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:47 pm

bluelagoon33 wrote:why do i want to look at such pathetic pic??

WTF

Is it painful to be so stupid?
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Postby Tony-4497 » Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:38 pm

Bananiot wrote:Ulterior motive then, Tony? Can we never imagine that there may be some decent people in the TC community? I always thought that they were romantic leftists who put humble human needs above sick nationalism. Now you tell us that money is their ideology but you have lost fate in humanity I am afraid and you cannot be a fair judge, especially if, as I suspect, you have never ever met a single TC teacher, member of KTOS.


Not what I said.. I am suggesting that most TCs would agree with GCs on a fair BBF model in the absence of (non-bona fide) Turkish demands and that, yes, a major reason for this is that their salaries will increase exponentially overnight if a solution is found.. I think this is a valid and legitimate reason.
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Postby Bananiot » Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:40 pm

Do you know any TC teachers? Are you talking from experience or merely making assumptions?
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Postby Tim Drayton » Tue Dec 22, 2009 5:17 pm

Money may not be everything, but teachers in north Cyprus get paid a hell of a lot more than their colleagues in Turkey, and the fear must be that eventually this differential will be eroded or will even disappear entirely the longer that Turkey has effective de facto control over this territory.
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Postby insan » Tue Dec 22, 2009 5:20 pm

Bananiot wrote:Do you know any TC teachers? Are you talking from experience or merely making assumptions?


Bananiot, I know some of them and i believe most of them r self-interested crooks... They established an interest group and by giving inadequate education to our kids; they prepare them to demand private lessons from them and thus they make a lot of extra profit... this is disgusting in my opinion...

I'm sure the average of salaries of TRNC teachers is among Europe's top 10 and besides this they earn as much from the private lessons they give..

From the report of world bank:

Insufficient learning time. Turkish Cypriot students in secondary school receive much less instruction than their peers in OECD countries. Their school days are shorter and they have far fewer instruction days in a year (155 versus 186 for OECD average). Less school-based learning time translates into less opportunity for teachers to teach and for children to learn what is expected. Consequently,Turkish Cypriot children are being short changed and leave school inadequately prepared unless they supplement their instruction with additional tutoring in afterhours. At the lower secondary level, the net teaching time is about 60 percent of that in OECD countries in average which translates into about 3 years of lesse ducation by the end of 12th grade.



Generous teacher compensation packages. Teachers’ work loads are light witha maximum of 20 – 25 lessons per week and only 31 weeks of instruction per year. On average, in lower secondary school net teaching time is 415 hours peryear compared to the OECD average of 701 hours and 840 hours for the southern part of Cyprus. However, teacher salaries in the northern part of Cyprus are exceedingly high in comparison to average income. Mid-career salaries of Turkish Cypriot teachers are 3.6 times average GDP per capita where the OECD average teacher salary was only 1.3 times income per capita.


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Postby Malapapa » Tue Dec 22, 2009 5:57 pm

Generous teacher compensation packages. Teachers’ work loads are light witha maximum of 20 – 25 lessons per week and only 31 weeks of instruction per year. On average, in lower secondary school net teaching time is 415 hours peryear compared to the OECD average of 701 hours and 840 hours for the southern part of Cyprus. However, teacher salaries in the northern part of Cyprus are exceedingly high in comparison to average income. Mid-career salaries of Turkish Cypriot teachers are 3.6 times average GDP per capita where the OECD average teacher salary was only 1.3 times income per capita.


So now we know where they got the time to prepare those pretty cardboard cut-outs. They probably used school equipment, and materials swiped from the art room.
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Postby Sotos » Tue Dec 22, 2009 6:17 pm

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Postby YFred » Tue Dec 22, 2009 6:18 pm

insan wrote:
Bananiot wrote:Do you know any TC teachers? Are you talking from experience or merely making assumptions?


Bananiot, I know some of them and i believe most of them r self-interested crooks... They established an interest group and by giving inadequate education to our kids; they prepare them to demand private lessons from them and thus they make a lot of extra profit... this is disgusting in my opinion...

I'm sure the average of salaries of TRNC teachers is among Europe's top 10 and besides this they earn as much from the private lessons they give..

From the report of world bank:

Insufficient learning time. Turkish Cypriot students in secondary school receive much less instruction than their peers in OECD countries. Their school days are shorter and they have far fewer instruction days in a year (155 versus 186 for OECD average). Less school-based learning time translates into less opportunity for teachers to teach and for children to learn what is expected. Consequently,Turkish Cypriot children are being short changed and leave school inadequately prepared unless they supplement their instruction with additional tutoring in afterhours. At the lower secondary level, the net teaching time is about 60 percent of that in OECD countries in average which translates into about 3 years of lesse ducation by the end of 12th grade.



Generous teacher compensation packages. Teachers’ work loads are light witha maximum of 20 – 25 lessons per week and only 31 weeks of instruction per year. On average, in lower secondary school net teaching time is 415 hours peryear compared to the OECD average of 701 hours and 840 hours for the southern part of Cyprus. However, teacher salaries in the northern part of Cyprus are exceedingly high in comparison to average income. Mid-career salaries of Turkish Cypriot teachers are 3.6 times average GDP per capita where the OECD average teacher salary was only 1.3 times income per capita.


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Insan, I have 5 teachers in my family and none give private lessons. They are all dedicated to the schools they work in. Where did you get that rubbish from?
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Postby insan » Tue Dec 22, 2009 6:30 pm

YFred wrote:
insan wrote:
Bananiot wrote:Do you know any TC teachers? Are you talking from experience or merely making assumptions?


Bananiot, I know some of them and i believe most of them r self-interested crooks... They established an interest group and by giving inadequate education to our kids; they prepare them to demand private lessons from them and thus they make a lot of extra profit... this is disgusting in my opinion...

I'm sure the average of salaries of TRNC teachers is among Europe's top 10 and besides this they earn as much from the private lessons they give..

From the report of world bank:

Insufficient learning time. Turkish Cypriot students in secondary school receive much less instruction than their peers in OECD countries. Their school days are shorter and they have far fewer instruction days in a year (155 versus 186 for OECD average). Less school-based learning time translates into less opportunity for teachers to teach and for children to learn what is expected. Consequently,Turkish Cypriot children are being short changed and leave school inadequately prepared unless they supplement their instruction with additional tutoring in afterhours. At the lower secondary level, the net teaching time is about 60 percent of that in OECD countries in average which translates into about 3 years of lesse ducation by the end of 12th grade.



Generous teacher compensation packages. Teachers’ work loads are light witha maximum of 20 – 25 lessons per week and only 31 weeks of instruction per year. On average, in lower secondary school net teaching time is 415 hours peryear compared to the OECD average of 701 hours and 840 hours for the southern part of Cyprus. However, teacher salaries in the northern part of Cyprus are exceedingly high in comparison to average income. Mid-career salaries of Turkish Cypriot teachers are 3.6 times average GDP per capita where the OECD average teacher salary was only 1.3 times income per capita.


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Insan, I have 5 teachers in my family and none give private lessons. They are all dedicated to the schools they work in. Where did you get that rubbish from?


What rubbish u talk abt? I said i know some and i believe most of them r crooks...
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Postby YFred » Tue Dec 22, 2009 6:33 pm

insan wrote:
YFred wrote:
insan wrote:
Bananiot wrote:Do you know any TC teachers? Are you talking from experience or merely making assumptions?


Bananiot, I know some of them and i believe most of them r self-interested crooks... They established an interest group and by giving inadequate education to our kids; they prepare them to demand private lessons from them and thus they make a lot of extra profit... this is disgusting in my opinion...

I'm sure the average of salaries of TRNC teachers is among Europe's top 10 and besides this they earn as much from the private lessons they give..

From the report of world bank:

Insufficient learning time. Turkish Cypriot students in secondary school receive much less instruction than their peers in OECD countries. Their school days are shorter and they have far fewer instruction days in a year (155 versus 186 for OECD average). Less school-based learning time translates into less opportunity for teachers to teach and for children to learn what is expected. Consequently,Turkish Cypriot children are being short changed and leave school inadequately prepared unless they supplement their instruction with additional tutoring in afterhours. At the lower secondary level, the net teaching time is about 60 percent of that in OECD countries in average which translates into about 3 years of lesse ducation by the end of 12th grade.



Generous teacher compensation packages. Teachers’ work loads are light witha maximum of 20 – 25 lessons per week and only 31 weeks of instruction per year. On average, in lower secondary school net teaching time is 415 hours peryear compared to the OECD average of 701 hours and 840 hours for the southern part of Cyprus. However, teacher salaries in the northern part of Cyprus are exceedingly high in comparison to average income. Mid-career salaries of Turkish Cypriot teachers are 3.6 times average GDP per capita where the OECD average teacher salary was only 1.3 times income per capita.


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Insan, I have 5 teachers in my family and none give private lessons. They are all dedicated to the schools they work in. Where did you get that rubbish from?


What rubbish u talk abt? I said i know some and i believe most of them r crooks...

That most teachers do it. Is there any statitics as to how many actually do private work?
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