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[Malapapa]

Is this what you're advocating, YFred?

No I am not. It is what you are advocating which is impossible to achieve. What you really want is everybody to their homes.

Yes, if they all wish, which they all won't. But no one can deny each individual this right, I'm afraid. Or how do you propose we do?

You cover it very well with fancy talk about rights but that is what you and the rest of the patriots are after. As it is as impossible to achieve as walking to the moon, I wasn't really being that unreasonable, I can assure you. You have more chance of achieving that than everyone to their homes.

How do you propose we encourage people not to pursue their rights in the courts, if that's what they want?

When you GCs wake up and realize that in a political settlement you will have winners and losers from both sides,

That's fine for the winners, but what if the losers (on both sides - this has nothing to do with GC verses TC) aren't happy about being losers and wish to pursue the legal option, which is their right, so they can be winners too? How will you discourage them from doing so?

the majority will be happy but to expect everyone to be happy is rally pissing in the wind, but what ever you do do not piss on a flag pole with the Turkish flag on it for your health and safety.

What a stupid way to end what was otherwise an uncharacteristically thoughtful YFred post.


Never give in - never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy.
Winston Churchill

[vaughanwilliams]

Is this what you're advocating, YFred?

No I am not. It is what you are advocating which is impossible to achieve. What you really want is everybody to their homes.

Yes, if they all wish, which they all won't. But no one can deny each individual this right, I'm afraid. Or how do you propose we do?

You cover it very well with fancy talk about rights but that is what you and the rest of the patriots are after. As it is as impossible to achieve as walking to the moon, I wasn't really being that unreasonable, I can assure you. You have more chance of achieving that than everyone to their homes.

How do you propose we encourage people not to pursue their rights in the courts, if that's what they want?

When you GCs wake up and realize that in a political settlement you will have winners and losers from both sides,

That's fine for the winners, but what if the losers (on both sides - this has nothing to do with GC verses TC) aren't happy about being losers and wish to pursue the legal option, which is their right, so they can be winners too? How will you discourage them from doing so?

the majority will be happy but to expect everyone to be happy is rally pissing in the wind, but what ever you do do not piss on a flag pole with the Turkish flag on it for your health and safety.

What a stupid way to end what was otherwise an uncharacteristically thoughtful YFred post.


Never give in - never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy.
Winston Churchill

"What you really want is everybody to their homes."
No, YFred, what they really want is everybody OUT of their homes, even if they have no intention of returning.
"Yes, if they all wish, which they all won't."
They all will, even if it's only for a few days to see people tossed onto the streets. They would rather leave them empty than occupied by anyone, even themselves, then sell them later. Eventually it will come down to money but not through compensation which goes nowhere to satisfy revenge, which is what will be sought for the loss of face of all these past years.

[Get Real!]

No, YFred, what they really want is everybody OUT of their homes, even if they have no intention of returning.
"Yes, if they all wish, which they all won't."
They all will, even if it's only for a few days to see people tossed onto the streets. They would rather leave them empty than occupied by anyone, even themselves, then sell them later. Eventually it will come down to money but not through compensation which goes nowhere to satisfy revenge, which is what will be sought for the loss of face of all these past years.

What each rightful owner does with their land/home is their problem not yours! They can live in it, sell it, rent it, or setup a bordello for all we can dictate!

Let’s get something VERY clear… nobody invited you to come to Cyprus and make yourself a part of the Cyprus Problem, and the GC land/home owner certainly didn’t give you permission to occupy his lot!

Pray to all the Gods that you haven’t occupied my land because when the time comes I’m going to scoop you up with the digger while you’re still in your bed and throw you on the rest of the rubble where you belong. Make no mistake!

[vaughanwilliams]

No, YFred, what they really want is everybody OUT of their homes, even if they have no intention of returning.
"Yes, if they all wish, which they all won't."
They all will, even if it's only for a few days to see people tossed onto the streets. They would rather leave them empty than occupied by anyone, even themselves, then sell them later. Eventually it will come down to money but not through compensation which goes nowhere to satisfy revenge, which is what will be sought for the loss of face of all these past years.

What each rightful owner does with their land/home is their problem not yours! They can live in it, sell it, rent it, or setup a bordello for all we can dictate!

Let’s get something VERY clear… nobody invited you to come to Cyprus and make yourself a part of the Cyprus Problem, and the GC land/home owner certainly didn’t give you permission to occupy his lot!

Pray to all the Gods that you haven’t occupied my land because when the time comes I’m going to scoop you up with the digger while you’re still in your bed and throw you on the rest of the rubble where you belong. Make no mistake!

It works every time!
I just love yanking your chain.

[james_mav]

Pray to all the Gods that you haven’t occupied my land because when the time comes I’m going to scoop you up with the digger while you’re still in your bed and throw you on the rest of the rubble where you belong. Make no mistake!

Indeed. Carpetbaggers are guilty either of ignorance, greed and/or stupidity; whichever it is you have precisely zero entitlement to any kind of mercy. In fact what you will receive is ruthless and thoroughly deserved vengeance. Legally the noose is firmly affixed; politically you're yet to recover from the collective delusion brought on by the AP prick tease. The GCs are after your blood, and the puppet regime will sell you out for the most minuscule of concessions from the GC side.

Your best bet is to go back to C44 and discuss the "rump RoC" and "annexation".

[Malapapa]

No, YFred, what they really want is everybody OUT of their homes, even if they have no intention of returning.
"Yes, if they all wish, which they all won't."
They all will, even if it's only for a few days to see people tossed onto the streets. They would rather leave them empty than occupied by anyone, even themselves, then sell them later.

Not all displaced people (including displaced TCs) and their descendants will want the same thing. Why do you make these collective assumptions? Hitler did this kind of thing about the Jews and the Gypsies to justify the Holocaust. What individuals want to do with their own property is their prerogative. I understand GR! wants to set up a bordello.

Eventually it will come down to money

I imagine you're right, for the majority of cases. Serious amounts of money.

but not through compensation which goes nowhere to satisfy revenge, which is what will be sought for the loss of face of all these past years.

You can dress it up anyway you like. But "revenge" and "loss of face" are such horribly ugly terms; and horribly expensive too.

[Malapapa]

It works every time!
I just love yanking your chain.

Is that what criminals call buying other people's stolen property? Yanking their chain?

[Get Real!]

No, YFred, what they really want is everybody OUT of their homes, even if they have no intention of returning.
"Yes, if they all wish, which they all won't."
They all will, even if it's only for a few days to see people tossed onto the streets. They would rather leave them empty than occupied by anyone, even themselves, then sell them later. Eventually it will come down to money but not through compensation which goes nowhere to satisfy revenge, which is what will be sought for the loss of face of all these past years.

What each rightful owner does with their land/home is their problem not yours! They can live in it, sell it, rent it, or setup a bordello for all we can dictate!

Let’s get something VERY clear… nobody invited you to come to Cyprus and make yourself a part of the Cyprus Problem, and the GC land/home owner certainly didn’t give you permission to occupy his lot!

Pray to all the Gods that you haven’t occupied my land because when the time comes I’m going to scoop you up with the digger while you’re still in your bed and throw you on the rest of the rubble where you belong. Make no mistake!

It works every time!
I just love yanking your chain.

Better go find that little Turkish Cypriot cunt who ripped you off and rip him in half, because the great Cypriot horde is at hand…

[vaughanwilliams]

No, YFred, what they really want is everybody OUT of their homes, even if they have no intention of returning.
"Yes, if they all wish, which they all won't."
They all will, even if it's only for a few days to see people tossed onto the streets. They would rather leave them empty than occupied by anyone, even themselves, then sell them later.

Not all displaced people (including displaced TCs) and their descendants will want the same thing. Why do you make these collective assumptions? Hitler did this kind of thing about the Jews and the Gypsies to justify the Holocaust. What individuals want to do with their own property is their prerogative. I understand GR! wants to set up a bordello.

Eventually it will come down to money

I imagine you're right, for the majority of cases. Serious amounts of money.

but not through compensation which goes nowhere to satisfy revenge, which is what will be sought for the loss of face of all these past years.

You can dress it up anyway you like. But "revenge" and "loss of face" are such horribly ugly terms; and horribly expensive too.

It's not me that's trying to dress it up - the TCs know that revenge, payback, call it what you like, is high on the GC agenda and it doesn't only apply to ex-pats. If you want genuine reconcilliation, you're going about it in a very funny way.

[vaughanwilliams]

No, YFred, what they really want is everybody OUT of their homes, even if they have no intention of returning.
"Yes, if they all wish, which they all won't."
They all will, even if it's only for a few days to see people tossed onto the streets. They would rather leave them empty than occupied by anyone, even themselves, then sell them later. Eventually it will come down to money but not through compensation which goes nowhere to satisfy revenge, which is what will be sought for the loss of face of all these past years.

What each rightful owner does with their land/home is their problem not yours! They can live in it, sell it, rent it, or setup a bordello for all we can dictate!

Let’s get something VERY clear… nobody invited you to come to Cyprus and make yourself a part of the Cyprus Problem, and the GC land/home owner certainly didn’t give you permission to occupy his lot!

Pray to all the Gods that you haven’t occupied my land because when the time comes I’m going to scoop you up with the digger while you’re still in your bed and throw you on the rest of the rubble where you belong. Make no mistake!

It works every time!
I just love yanking your chain.

Better go find that little Turkish Cypriot cunt who ripped you off and rip him in half, because the great Cypriot horde is at hand…

So, is that me off your Christmas card list, then?