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[Piratis]

According to the Report by the Council of Europe.

According to the censuses which took place in Cyprus before the factual partition of the island, the Greek Cypriot community amounted to 447,901 (78,2%) in 1960, and to 498,511 (78,9%) in 1973. The Turkish Cypriot community numbered 103,822 (18,1%) people in 1960, and 116 000 (18,4%) in 1973. The total population of Cyprus was 572,707 in 1960 and 631,778 in 1973 (see Appendix 3, Table 1). An average rate of annual growth for both communities between 1960 and 1973 was similar and amounted to 0,8%. In consequence, the ethnic distribution of the population did not change between 1960 and 1974 and the proportion of each community remained stable.

http://assembly.coe.int/Documents/Worki ... OC9799.htm

0.8% growth is quite low, but that is the case for both communities.

3 of my father's sisters and their families migrated to England even before I left Cyprus in 1969...sorry i dont have a graphic to prove it...If you dont believe me,there is no hope for us ever having a meaningful conversation about this

Nobody questions what you know, but you might not know the whole story and this could lead you to false conclusions. I also have several relatives that emigrated abroad in the 50s and 60s. Cyprus was a poor country back then.

[Get Real!]

Total GC diaspora: 492,000

Total TC diaspora: 55,000

http://thecyprusproblem.100webspace.net ... icle30.htm

Case closed!

[YFred]

According to the Report by the Council of Europe.

According to the censuses which took place in Cyprus before the factual partition of the island, the Greek Cypriot community amounted to 447,901 (78,2%) in 1960, and to 498,511 (78,9%) in 1973. The Turkish Cypriot community numbered 103,822 (18,1%) people in 1960, and 116 000 (18,4%) in 1973. The total population of Cyprus was 572,707 in 1960 and 631,778 in 1973 (see Appendix 3, Table 1). An average rate of annual growth for both communities between 1960 and 1973 was similar and amounted to 0,8%. In consequence, the ethnic distribution of the population did not change between 1960 and 1974 and the proportion of each community remained stable.

http://assembly.coe.int/Documents/Worki ... OC9799.htm

0.8% growth is quite low, but that is the case for both communities.

3 of my father's sisters and their families migrated to England even before I left Cyprus in 1969...sorry i dont have a graphic to prove it...If you dont believe me,there is no hope for us ever having a meaningful conversation about this

Nobody questions what you know, but you might not know the whole story and this could lead you to false conclusions. I also have several relatives that emigrated abroad in the 50s and 60s. Cyprus was a poor country back then.

Piratis, you can't quote suspect roc figures of population and come to a conclusion about TC de-population. The only way to do it is to find the figures of actual people who left. Where I was it wasn't just my family, every family was the same about 50%. The figures you are quoting are just plain wrong.

[Piratis]

By the way, Greeks and Turks (from mainland Greece and Turkey) also emigrated en mass during those times (and not only). Poverty and the hope for a better life in a developed country was the reason behind the migration.

Of course things could have been better in Cyprus if we could have a stable democratic government and no conflict and if that was the case probably less people would emigrate. Now do you want to play the blame game again about who was responsible for not having a stable democratic government and having a conflict instead? As I said many times I don't think such blame games are useful, but if the attempt is to blame the situation in those years entirely on GCs then I will be forced to reply with the facts.

[BirKibrisli]

Total GC diaspora: 492,000

Total TC diaspora: 55,000

http://thecyprusproblem.100webspace.net ... icle30.htm

Case closed!

Is the case closed because you drunk all the bottles which were inside???
Was it beer or whisky????

Seriously,GR,tell me...If there are 55,000 TCs in the diaspora,would it be fanciful to say that at least 10,000 of them left between 63-74,the darkest years for TCs in Cyprus?????

[Oracle]

The GCs have this despot approch to everything, they think they are right on every matter and that the legal high ground will give them all the wish for, after 4 years of the EU they are still no closer to a solution and cannot see that even the EU will not give them the solution they long for. Its the TCs they have convince of their genuine intations which to me are just not materializing, we have to be careful not to capitulate to the demands that will place our people in danger at the mercy of GCs, felling the way you do in a foreign land.

I can only hope Oracle's and some of the other GC fanatics' views are not representative of all GCs'...We will need not soldiers but an army of psychiatric nurses to be safe from them...

Do you have some evidence to back up your fantastic accusations yet, BirKibrisli, or are you going to gossip with VP all night?

No Oracle,I dont have graphs to prove what I know is the truth of the matter...You can go on believeing that I make everyting up...Nothing I say has the slightest truth in it..In fact believe if you like that I am the figment of my own imagination...And you are having delusions thinking that I really exist...

What you know, is that some TCs left in the 60's.

What you made up is that 10's of thousands of TCs left in the 60's because of the RoC.

What you are doing now is throwing accusations at me because I asked for some evidence for this extrapolation since it contradicts available evidence ... You say you don't have any. Fine. But, I wonder why?

This propensity to exaggerate seems to be a recurring problem when there is a personal (unjustifiable) agenda to support ....

[BirKibrisli]

According to the Report by the Council of Europe.

According to the censuses which took place in Cyprus before the factual partition of the island, the Greek Cypriot community amounted to 447,901 (78,2%) in 1960, and to 498,511 (78,9%) in 1973. The Turkish Cypriot community numbered 103,822 (18,1%) people in 1960, and 116 000 (18,4%) in 1973. The total population of Cyprus was 572,707 in 1960 and 631,778 in 1973 (see Appendix 3, Table 1). An average rate of annual growth for both communities between 1960 and 1973 was similar and amounted to 0,8%. In consequence, the ethnic distribution of the population did not change between 1960 and 1974 and the proportion of each community remained stable.

http://assembly.coe.int/Documents/Worki ... OC9799.htm

0.8% growth is quite low, but that is the case for both communities.

3 of my father's sisters and their families migrated to England even before I left Cyprus in 1969...sorry i dont have a graphic to prove it...If you dont believe me,there is no hope for us ever having a meaningful conversation about this

Nobody questions what you know, but you might not know the whole story and this could lead you to false conclusions. I also have several relatives that emigrated abroad in the 50s and 60s. Cyprus was a poor country back then.

You are implying that the TCs have left Cyprus for economic reasons...Do you really believe that their predicament during the years 63-74 had nothing to do with it????

[BirKibrisli]

According to the Report by the Council of Europe.

According to the censuses which took place in Cyprus before the factual partition of the island, the Greek Cypriot community amounted to 447,901 (78,2%) in 1960, and to 498,511 (78,9%) in 1973. The Turkish Cypriot community numbered 103,822 (18,1%) people in 1960, and 116 000 (18,4%) in 1973. The total population of Cyprus was 572,707 in 1960 and 631,778 in 1973 (see Appendix 3, Table 1). An average rate of annual growth for both communities between 1960 and 1973 was similar and amounted to 0,8%. In consequence, the ethnic distribution of the population did not change between 1960 and 1974 and the proportion of each community remained stable.

http://assembly.coe.int/Documents/Worki ... OC9799.htm

0.8% growth is quite low, but that is the case for both communities.

3 of my father's sisters and their families migrated to England even before I left Cyprus in 1969...sorry i dont have a graphic to prove it...If you dont believe me,there is no hope for us ever having a meaningful conversation about this

Nobody questions what you know, but you might not know the whole story and this could lead you to false conclusions. I also have several relatives that emigrated abroad in the 50s and 60s. Cyprus was a poor country back then.

Piratis, you can't quote suspect roc figures of population and come to a conclusion about TC de-population. The only way to do it is to find the figures of actual people who left. Where I was it wasn't just my family, every family was the same about 50%. The figures you are quoting are just plain wrong.

What do they say? YFred???
There are lies,damn lies,and statistics...

[Piratis]

Total GC diaspora: 492,000

Total TC diaspora: 55,000

http://thecyprusproblem.100webspace.net ... icle30.htm

Case closed!

Is the case closed because you drunk all the bottles which were inside???
Was it beer or whisky????

Seriously,GR,tell me...If there are 55,000 TCs in the diaspora,would it be fanciful to say that at least 10,000 of them left between 63-74,the darkest years for TCs in Cyprus?????

It would be a reasonable assumption. It would be equally reasonable to assume that more than 10.000 GCs emigrated at that same time. Do you think that all GC immigrants left Cyprus after 74 and that life for GCs was great before that?

[Oracle]

Total GC diaspora: 492,000

Total TC diaspora: 55,000

http://thecyprusproblem.100webspace.net ... icle30.htm

Case closed!

Is the case closed because you drunk all the bottles which were inside???
Was it beer or whisky????

Seriously,GR,tell me...If there are 55,000 TCs in the diaspora,would it be fanciful to say that at least 10,000 of them left between 63-74,the darkest years for TCs in Cyprus?????

The darkest years for TCs have been in the last 35 years if migration rates are to testify ....