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[Oracle]

... Why did everyone,especially Turkey and the RoC government turned a blind eye to the plight of the TCs,and sat back and watched them leave the island in their 10s of thousands....

Fantasies, BirKibrisli, fantasies!

Here are the population numbers of TCs which show that the number of TCs did not go down in the mid 60's as most TCs would like to portray (i.e to blame the RoC) ...




From: http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 24&start=0

I dare you to produce rear by year population of TCs between 1963 and 1974. You are one crazy woman.

You do it! Since you are the ones making absurd claims against all the evidence. All the data shows there are no significant differences between 1960 and ~1990. Sure there were some economic migrants. But, the significant differences (about 20% drop) came after that period ... coinciding with Turkey's push to change the demographics by colonisation.

That is a very interesting graph showing population movements. And there was me thinking you were a scientist, more like scientologist if you ask me.

Go on, idiot. Find the year by year population statistics which prove your point or shut up if you are unable to digest actual evidence which contradicts you and BirKibrisli.

Oracle,from my immidiate family alone : 3 of my father's sisters and their families migrated to England even before I left Cyprus in 1969...sorry i dont have a graphic to prove it...If you dont believe me,there is no hope for us ever having a meaningful conversation about this...And let me tell you,my family's economic situation was far beter than the average TC family's...What does that tell you???

I didn't say I don't believe you that some TCs (as also some GCs) left in the 60's. What I am asking you to do is prove your claim/insinuation/accusation that 10s of thousands of TCs were driven out by the RoC for political expediency!

Because Bir, the numbers suggest otherwise. And unless you can come up with reliable statistics which contradict the graph, then I'm afraid your assumptions are worthless.

I dont know of any data or statistic on the movement of the TCs between 1963-74...I only have my eyes and my ears...Most TCs migrated to England those days...If on one ship going to Australia for the month of MARCH IN 1969 THERE WERE NO LESS THAN 60 tcS YOU TELL ME WHAT THAT TELLS YOU...

That some TCs chose to go to the UK, just as some GCs chose to go to the UK.

Now, where is your evidence that 10s of thousands of TCs were driven out by the RoC for political expediency??? .....or stop ridiculing our history with extrapolated fantasies to suit your present agenda!

[YFred]

... Why did everyone,especially Turkey and the RoC government turned a blind eye to the plight of the TCs,and sat back and watched them leave the island in their 10s of thousands....

Fantasies, BirKibrisli, fantasies!

Here are the population numbers of TCs which show that the number of TCs did not go down in the mid 60's as most TCs would like to portray (i.e to blame the RoC) ...




From: http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 24&start=0

I dare you to produce rear by year population of TCs between 1963 and 1974. You are one crazy woman.

You do it! Since you are the ones making absurd claims against all the evidence. All the data shows there are no significant differences between 1960 and ~1990. Sure there were some economic migrants. But, the significant differences (about 20% drop) came after that period ... coinciding with Turkey's push to change the demographics by colonisation.

That is a very interesting graph showing population movements. And there was me thinking you were a scientist, more like scientologist if you ask me.

Go on, idiot. Find the year by year population statistics which prove your point or shut up if you are unable to digest actual evidence which contradicts you and BirKibrisli.

Oracle,from my immidiate family alone : 3 of my father's sisters and their families migrated to England even before I left Cyprus in 1969...sorry i dont have a graphic to prove it...If you dont believe me,there is no hope for us ever having a meaningful conversation about this...And let me tell you,my family's economic situation was far beter than the average TC family's...What does that tell you???

I didn't say I don't believe you that some TCs (as also some GCs) left in the 60's. What I am asking you to do is prove your claim/insinuation/accusation that 10s of thousands of TCs were driven out by the RoC for political expediency!

Because Bir, the numbers suggest otherwise. And unless you can come up with reliable statistics which contradict the graph, then I'm afraid your assumptions are worthless.

Let me just add one more statistic to Bir's argument. From my family 4 left cyprus and 4 remained. That was a 50% reduction you crazy woman. Stick that in your pipe and put a match to it. In Lurucina half the families left cyprus between 63 and 74. You think I will trust the roc figures published. Go jump in a lake if you can find one.

[BirKibrisli]

The GCs have this despot approch to everything, they think they are right on every matter and that the legal high ground will give them all the wish for, after 4 years of the EU they are still no closer to a solution and cannot see that even the EU will not give them the solution they long for. Its the TCs they have convince of their genuine intations which to me are just not materializing, we have to be careful not to capitulate to the demands that will place our people in danger at the mercy of GCs, felling the way you do in a foreign land.

I can only hope Oracle's and some of the other GC fanatics' views are not representative of all GCs'...We will need not soldiers but an army of psychiatric nurses to be safe from them...

[halil]

... Why did everyone,especially Turkey and the RoC government turned a blind eye to the plight of the TCs,and sat back and watched them leave the island in their 10s of thousands....

Fantasies, BirKibrisli, fantasies!

Here are the population numbers of TCs which show that the number of TCs did not go down in the mid 60's as most TCs would like to portray (i.e to blame the RoC) ...




From: http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 24&start=0

I dare you to produce rear by year population of TCs between 1963 and 1974. You are one crazy woman.

You do it! Since you are the ones making absurd claims against all the evidence. All the data shows there are no significant differences between 1960 and ~1990. Sure there were some economic migrants. But, the significant differences (about 20% drop) came after that period ... coinciding with Turkey's push to change the demographics by colonisation.

That is a very interesting graph showing population movements. And there was me thinking you were a scientist, more like scientologist if you ask me.

Go on, idiot. Find the year by year population statistics which prove your point or shut up if you are unable to digest actual evidence which contradicts you and BirKibrisli.

Oracle,from my immidiate family alone : 3 of my father's sisters and their families migrated to England even before I left Cyprus in 1969...sorry i dont have a graphic to prove it...If you dont believe me,there is no hope for us ever having a meaningful conversation about this...And let me tell you,my family's economic situation was far beter than the average TC family's...What does that tell you???

Bir my dear gardash just ignor this lady ...pls do not argue with her she can not understand you ...nato kafa ...nato kafa ....
Problem in here we are facing always Bir ... TC's never suffer.They all suffered.They always ignored our good will . Their Cypriot blood never raised to safe us from Hellenism. It is all our fault ....as long as they see it as it is ...no hope ...no future my dear gardash.What we are telling our kids now Bir.... Hold on strong in these lands.Our future is in Cyprus ...Do not make same mistake that our fathers,uncles did.Do not emigrate anyware. It will be very hard for us .we can be ignored by GC's , Turkey,Greece,EU or with others .... but will not go away.Till We have equal power sharing with our GC's neighbours we will struggle

[Viewpoint]

The GCs have this despot approch to everything, they think they are right on every matter and that the legal high ground will give them all the wish for, after 4 years of the EU they are still no closer to a solution and cannot see that even the EU will not give them the solution they long for. Its the TCs they have convince of their genuine intations which to me are just not materializing, we have to be careful not to capitulate to the demands that will place our people in danger at the mercy of GCs, felling the way you do in a foreign land.

I can only hope Oracle's and some of the other GC fanatics' views are not representative of all GCs'...We will need not soldiers but an army of psychiatric nurses to be safe from them...

Bir the majority of Gcs are like the examples we have on the forum, the ones you meet face to face may be all freindly and agreeable but deep down they are very much the same, to them you are a nusience stopping them taking the whole of Cyprus and turning it into a Gc state, they do nto care for what TCs have suffered nor do they care if you leave in fact they repfer and would encourage, we cannot trust them unless we have plenty of safeguards and guarantees that will make sure they stick to the rules or take the consequencies.

[Oracle]

The GCs have this despot approch to everything, they think they are right on every matter and that the legal high ground will give them all the wish for, after 4 years of the EU they are still no closer to a solution and cannot see that even the EU will not give them the solution they long for. Its the TCs they have convince of their genuine intations which to me are just not materializing, we have to be careful not to capitulate to the demands that will place our people in danger at the mercy of GCs, felling the way you do in a foreign land.

I can only hope Oracle's and some of the other GC fanatics' views are not representative of all GCs'...We will need not soldiers but an army of psychiatric nurses to be safe from them...

Do you have some evidence to back up your fantastic accusations yet, BirKibrisli, or are you going to gossip with VP all night?

[BirKibrisli]

... Why did everyone,especially Turkey and the RoC government turned a blind eye to the plight of the TCs,and sat back and watched them leave the island in their 10s of thousands....

Fantasies, BirKibrisli, fantasies!

Here are the population numbers of TCs which show that the number of TCs did not go down in the mid 60's as most TCs would like to portray (i.e to blame the RoC) ...




From: http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 24&start=0

I dare you to produce rear by year population of TCs between 1963 and 1974. You are one crazy woman.

You do it! Since you are the ones making absurd claims against all the evidence. All the data shows there are no significant differences between 1960 and ~1990. Sure there were some economic migrants. But, the significant differences (about 20% drop) came after that period ... coinciding with Turkey's push to change the demographics by colonisation.

That is a very interesting graph showing population movements. And there was me thinking you were a scientist, more like scientologist if you ask me.

Go on, idiot. Find the year by year population statistics which prove your point or shut up if you are unable to digest actual evidence which contradicts you and BirKibrisli.

Oracle,from my immidiate family alone : 3 of my father's sisters and their families migrated to England even before I left Cyprus in 1969...sorry i dont have a graphic to prove it...If you dont believe me,there is no hope for us ever having a meaningful conversation about this...And let me tell you,my family's economic situation was far beter than the average TC family's...What does that tell you???

Bir my dear gardash just ignor this lady ...pls do not argue with her she can not understand you ...nato kafa ...nato kafa ....
Problem in here we are facing always Bir ... TC's never suffer.They all suffered.They always ignored our good will . Their Cypriot blood never raised to safe us from Hellenism. It is all our fault ....as long as they see it as it is ...no hope ...no future my dear gardash.What we are telling our kids now Bir.... Hold on strong in these lands.Our future is in Cyprus ...Do not make same mistake that our fathers,uncles did.Do not emigrate anyware. It will be very hard for us .we can be ignored by GC's , Turkey,Greece,EU or with others .... but will not go away.Till We have equal power sharing with our GC's neighbours we will struggle

You must be a more relaxed person (genish) than I am ,dear Halil...
When I see a closed mind i want to open it and let some sanity creep in...
But I must admit defeat with Oracle...she is beyond help...

[Viewpoint]

halil ı agree with you, this excuse for a human should be ignored totally, that is the only to deal with scum.

[BirKibrisli]

The GCs have this despot approch to everything, they think they are right on every matter and that the legal high ground will give them all the wish for, after 4 years of the EU they are still no closer to a solution and cannot see that even the EU will not give them the solution they long for. Its the TCs they have convince of their genuine intations which to me are just not materializing, we have to be careful not to capitulate to the demands that will place our people in danger at the mercy of GCs, felling the way you do in a foreign land.

I can only hope Oracle's and some of the other GC fanatics' views are not representative of all GCs'...We will need not soldiers but an army of psychiatric nurses to be safe from them...

Do you have some evidence to back up your fantastic accusations yet, BirKibrisli, or are you going to gossip with VP all night?

No Oracle,I dont have graphs to prove what I know is the truth of the matter...You can go on believeing that I make everyting up...Nothing I say has the slightest truth in it..In fact believe if you like that I am the figment of my own imagination...And you are having delusions thinking that I really exist...

[halil]

... Why did everyone,especially Turkey and the RoC government turned a blind eye to the plight of the TCs,and sat back and watched them leave the island in their 10s of thousands....

Fantasies, BirKibrisli, fantasies!

Here are the population numbers of TCs which show that the number of TCs did not go down in the mid 60's as most TCs would like to portray (i.e to blame the RoC) ...




From: http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 24&start=0

I dare you to produce rear by year population of TCs between 1963 and 1974. You are one crazy woman.

You do it! Since you are the ones making absurd claims against all the evidence. All the data shows there are no significant differences between 1960 and ~1990. Sure there were some economic migrants. But, the significant differences (about 20% drop) came after that period ... coinciding with Turkey's push to change the demographics by colonisation.

That is a very interesting graph showing population movements. And there was me thinking you were a scientist, more like scientologist if you ask me.

Go on, idiot. Find the year by year population statistics which prove your point or shut up if you are unable to digest actual evidence which contradicts you and BirKibrisli.

Oracle,from my immidiate family alone : 3 of my father's sisters and their families migrated to England even before I left Cyprus in 1969...sorry i dont have a graphic to prove it...If you dont believe me,there is no hope for us ever having a meaningful conversation about this...And let me tell you,my family's economic situation was far beter than the average TC family's...What does that tell you???

Bir my dear gardash just ignor this lady ...pls do not argue with her she can not understand you ...nato kafa ...nato kafa ....
Problem in here we are facing always Bir ... TC's never suffer.They all suffered.They always ignored our good will . Their Cypriot blood never raised to safe us from Hellenism. It is all our fault ....as long as they see it as it is ...no hope ...no future my dear gardash.What we are telling our kids now Bir.... Hold on strong in these lands.Our future is in Cyprus ...Do not make same mistake that our fathers,uncles did.Do not emigrate anyware. It will be very hard for us .we can be ignored by GC's , Turkey,Greece,EU or with others .... but will not go away.Till We have equal power sharing with our GC's neighbours we will struggle

You must be a more relaxed person (genish) than I am ,dear Halil...
When I see a closed mind i want to open it and let some sanity creep in...
But I must admit defeat with Oracle...she is beyond help...

It is true Bir i am relaxed .we hear these kind of arguments everyday . we used to. can u imagine before 74 our population was 120000 ...from these population almost 65000 of them became refugee and they did not suffer.
before 74 students could not return back to their own country ...Because of hunger or safety of their lifes they should go to UK or australia for better lifes ...again we did not suffer .... it was very good for them ....more TC's lefts the Cyprus ...it will be benefit of hellenism ...hopballaaa now whats going on and they care about our decreased population Bir ....I call it double faced Bir .... what is changed before before 74 and 64 .... nothing. Always TC's are slammed from all parties.