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Postby Malapapa » Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:23 pm

paliometoxo wrote:yeah ive never seen an american with such love for turks and caring so much about a tiny island far from the us of a..

he talks like a turk. i believe he is one to malapapa.

talking the same rubbish views on cyprus that vp runaway and other partitionist turks do.. the ones that would be much happier in turkey rather then our island


Viewpoint, the partitionist outsider from the UK, runaway, the partitionist outsider from Istanbul and Expatkiwi, the partitionist outsider from the US. It's the outsiders who want to tear Cyprus apart... 'twas ever thus.
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Postby Expatkiwi » Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:50 pm

Malapapa wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:yeah ive never seen an american with such love for turks and caring so much about a tiny island far from the us of a..

he talks like a turk. i believe he is one to malapapa.

talking the same rubbish views on cyprus that vp runaway and other partitionist turks do.. the ones that would be much happier in turkey rather then our island


Viewpoint, the partitionist outsider from the UK, runaway, the partitionist outsider from Istanbul and Expatkiwi, the partitionist outsider from the US. It's the outsiders who want to tear Cyprus apart... 'twas ever thus.


Uh, the island is already in two: RoCy and TRNC. It's been that way for a while, in case you didn't notice...
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Postby Malapapa » Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:00 am

Expatkiwi wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:yeah ive never seen an american with such love for turks and caring so much about a tiny island far from the us of a..

he talks like a turk. i believe he is one to malapapa.

talking the same rubbish views on cyprus that vp runaway and other partitionist turks do.. the ones that would be much happier in turkey rather then our island


Viewpoint, the partitionist outsider from the UK, runaway, the partitionist outsider from Istanbul and Expatkiwi, the partitionist outsider from the US. It's the outsiders who want to tear Cyprus apart... 'twas ever thus.


Uh, the island is already in two: RoCy and TRNC. It's been that way for a while, in case you didn't notice...


Honourable people around the world find this state of affairs unacceptable and certainly wouldn't advocate formal partition, which is out of the question for the vast majority of the island's people. Honourable people around the world imagine how they'd feel if their own country was torn apart, by outsiders, colluding with local extremists.
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Postby Expatkiwi » Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:11 am

Malapapa wrote:Honourable people around the world find this state of affairs unacceptable and certainly wouldn't advocate formal partition, which is out of the question for the vast majority of the island's people. Honourable people around the world imagine how they'd feel if their own country was torn apart, by outsiders, colluding with local extremists.


The problem is that the Turkish Cypriots simply don't trust the Greek Cypriots, and the RoCy government. You want the communities to be at loggerheads again?
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Postby Malapapa » Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:33 am

Expatkiwi wrote:
Malapapa wrote:Honourable people around the world find this state of affairs unacceptable and certainly wouldn't advocate formal partition, which is out of the question for the vast majority of the island's people. Honourable people around the world imagine how they'd feel if their own country was torn apart, by outsiders, colluding with local extremists.


The problem is that the Turkish Cypriots simply don't trust the Greek Cypriots, and the RoCy government. You want the communities to be at loggerheads again?


According to a recent ipsos-mori poll, 73% of people in Britain simply do not trust government ministers or politicians generally. What do you suggest we do? Partition the UK?

In the real world people don't trust each other. People don't trust their governments.

Partition is not the answer.
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Postby Expatkiwi » Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:02 am

Malapapa wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:
Malapapa wrote:Honourable people around the world find this state of affairs unacceptable and certainly wouldn't advocate formal partition, which is out of the question for the vast majority of the island's people. Honourable people around the world imagine how they'd feel if their own country was torn apart, by outsiders, colluding with local extremists.


The problem is that the Turkish Cypriots simply don't trust the Greek Cypriots, and the RoCy government. You want the communities to be at loggerheads again?


According to a recent ipsos-mori poll, 73% of people in Britain simply do not trust government ministers or politicians generally. What do you suggest we do? Partition the UK?

In the real world people don't trust each other. People don't trust their governments.

Partition is not the answer.


As far as Cyprus goes, partition is IMHO the only answer. It would have to be properly negotiated, and the TRNC would have to withdraw from say Famagusta/Maras and Morphou (and maybe the lower half of the Karpass peninsula), but the Turkish Cypriots need the security of their own state. That's why I support it.
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Postby YFred » Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:06 am

Malapapa wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:
Malapapa wrote:Honourable people around the world find this state of affairs unacceptable and certainly wouldn't advocate formal partition, which is out of the question for the vast majority of the island's people. Honourable people around the world imagine how they'd feel if their own country was torn apart, by outsiders, colluding with local extremists.


The problem is that the Turkish Cypriots simply don't trust the Greek Cypriots, and the RoCy government. You want the communities to be at loggerheads again?


According to a recent ipsos-mori poll, 73% of people in Britain simply do not trust government ministers or politicians generally. What do you suggest we do? Partition the UK?

In the real world people don't trust each other. People don't trust their governments.

Partition is not the answer.

If English people went around killing Indians with the police taking no action, how long before Hounslow, Southall, Wembly, Harrow and Greenford create the Mucahiddin Army and declare independence.
You really are fast asleep about the past.
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Postby Malapapa » Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:34 am

YFred wrote:If English people went around killing Indians with the police taking no action, how long before Hounslow, Southall, Wembly, Harrow and Greenford create the Mucahiddin Army and declare independence.
You really are fast asleep about the past.



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Are you suggesting Brixton is declared independent?
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Postby Malapapa » Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:39 am

Expatkiwi wrote:As far as Cyprus goes, partition is IMHO the only answer. It would have to be properly negotiated, and the TRNC would have to withdraw from say Famagusta/Maras and Morphou (and maybe the lower half of the Karpass peninsula), but the Turkish Cypriots need the security of their own state. That's why I support it.


Let New Zealand lead the way by partitioning itself so the Maoris can feel safe, and then come to Cyprus and show us how it's done.
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Postby YFred » Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:47 am

Malapapa wrote:
YFred wrote:If English people went around killing Indians with the police taking no action, how long before Hounslow, Southall, Wembly, Harrow and Greenford create the Mucahiddin Army and declare independence.
You really are fast asleep about the past.



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Are you suggesting Brixton is declared independent?

Is that how the roc police treated killing of TCs in the 60s, same as British police did the Lawrence investigation. Was it really the same?
Wakey wakey.
RoC justice system as a whole is rotten to the core to this day never mind the 60s. Carry on Sleeping.
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