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YOUTHS DO NOT BELIEVE THAT A“FEDERATION”IS THE BEST SOLUTION

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Postby bill cobbett » Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:54 pm

Malapapa wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
So we can establish exactly what sort of person you are, which statement do you agree with most?

In 1940, Paris belonged to:

a) Thd Nazis, who had captured it fair and square;
b) The Parisians, who would resist the occupation until it was liberated.


C) Both.


That's no answer.


Er MalaP, ... It is Expat's answer ... and it does tell us something!
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Postby BOF » Fri Dec 18, 2009 9:27 pm

the article is in todays internet edition of the cyprus mail - but dont look for it under the banner headline at the start of this thread - its under "youths of both sides dont think their european"
there are a number of other questions in the survey but thats the banner headline......i think someones been cherrypicking the bits that serve their interests.... :wink:
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Postby Malapapa » Fri Dec 18, 2009 9:36 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
So we can establish exactly what sort of person you are, which statement do you agree with most?

In 1940, Paris belonged to:

a) Thd Nazis, who had captured it fair and square;
b) The Parisians, who would resist the occupation until it was liberated.


C) Both.


That's no answer.


Er MalaP, ... It is Expat's answer ... and it does tell us something!


You're right, his Nazi leanings are complemented by clear stupidity.
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Postby Malapapa » Fri Dec 18, 2009 9:44 pm

Expatkiwi wrote:But NZ is NOT Being threatened by Australia. I really am not too impressed with the comparisons y'all are sending me. Germany conquered a foreign country (France). THat was not the case in Cyprus where people living there (Turkish Cypriots) were threatened with anhilation. THATS the difference.


The difference is France and Germany were comparable in size. Massive Turkey conquered a tiny foreign country (Cyprus).

And in France there were no doubt people living there (Germans and Nazi sympathisers) threatened also.
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:14 pm

BOF wrote:the article is in todays internet edition of the cyprus mail - but dont look for it under the banner headline at the start of this thread - its under "youths of both sides dont think their european"
there are a number of other questions in the survey but thats the banner headline......i think someones been cherrypicking the bits that serve their interests.... :wink:



Thanks for the info BOF. As I suspected, a bit of 'cherry-picking'.

I found these results encouraging apart from the Presidential issue.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Dec 19, 2009 5:29 pm

Over time the GC youth believing a 2 state solution is the only way to resolve this will increase...all we TCs have to do is be patient and with together with Turkey to achieve our ulitimate goal in the face of GC despot arrogance and continued support of the status quo.
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Postby paliometoxo » Sat Dec 19, 2009 7:45 pm

blah blah blah two states blah blah states blah.. since turkey loves you tcs so much by banning tc dialect and destroying anything tc i am sure they will build you a state in turkey if you like.. but you barbaians are not getting one in cyprus on our island
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Postby Kikapu » Sat Dec 19, 2009 9:30 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Over time the GC youth believing a 2 state solution is the only way to resolve this will increase...all we TCs have to do is be patient and with together with Turkey to achieve our ulitimate goal in the face of GC despot arrogance and continued support of the status quo.


First of all, youth know very little about politics, let alone what a Federation is. You VP is a perfect example of this and you are an adult, where you get your Federations and Confederations all mixed up and even then, you do not apply Democracy and Human Rights into the running of these form of Governments. If you do not know how these institutions run, I do not expect the youth to know either when they have more urgent things to do, like looking at naked pictures of girls and boys. I believe this is a made up poll and the fact that majority of the youth in the north are illegal aliens (settlers) and not TCs, makes the results of this poll invalid even if such a poll did take place. After all, the only way the illegal aliens are going to be able to remain in Cyprus and keep the GCs properties is through a 2 states equalling 2 independent countries , so what else would you expect these "TC" youths to say if that is all they are hearing at home from their parents and the Fascists. Such polls are meaningless except to give the NeoPartitionist an orgasmic thrills that they are closer to an agreed partition or recognition.!

This poll, if true, was more than likely performed by our in-house con-artists, Runaway and Expatkiwi.! :lol:
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Postby YFred » Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:22 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Over time the GC youth believing a 2 state solution is the only way to resolve this will increase...all we TCs have to do is be patient and with together with Turkey to achieve our ulitimate goal in the face of GC despot arrogance and continued support of the status quo.


First of all, youth know very little about politics, let alone what a Federation is. You VP is a perfect example of this and you are an adult, where you get your Federations and Confederations all mixed up and even then, you do not apply Democracy and Human Rights into the running of these form of Governments. If you do not know how these institutions run, I do not expect the youth to know either when they have more urgent things to do, like looking at naked pictures of girls and boys. I believe this is a made up poll and the fact that majority of the youth in the north are illegal aliens (settlers) and not TCs, makes the results of this poll invalid even if such a poll did take place. After all, the only way the illegal aliens are going to be able to remain in Cyprus and keep the GCs properties is through a 2 states equalling 2 independent countries , so what else would you expect these "TC" youths to say if that is all they are hearing at home from their parents and the Fascists. Such polls are meaningless except to give the NeoPartitionist an orgasmic thrills that they are closer to an agreed partition or recognition.!

This poll, if true, was more than likely performed by our in-house con-artists, Runaway and Expatkiwi.! :lol:

Old Boklu yero, you can ignore the views and the feelings of the youth at your peril.
They understand better than you, that's for sure. Haw many young people do you know that live in Cyprus, dipstick?
Even a shepherds in Lurucina has better understanding than you.
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Re: YOUTHS DO NOT BELIEVE THAT A“FEDERATION”IS THE BEST SOLU

Postby Kifeas » Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:45 pm

halil wrote::!: TURKISH AND GREEK CYPRIOT YOUTHS DO NOT BELIEVE THAT A “FEDERATION” IS THE BEST SOLUTION :!:

The Turkish and Greek Cypriot youths do not believe that a “federation” is the best solution for the Cyprus problem.

Results of a survey, carried out by the UNDP-ACT in cooperation with the University of Nicosia in South Cyprus and the Cyprus Social and Economic Research Centre KADEM, were announced yesterday.

According to the survey, 41% of Turkish youth believes that a two-state solution will be the best way to settle the Cyprus problem whilst 30% of Greek Cypriots did so.

This reflects a 20% rise in the number of Greek Cypriots and a 18% rise in the number of Turkish Cypriots supporting a two-state solution compared to the survey carried out between November 2007 and March 2008.

The percentage of those supporting a federation is very low.

Only 4% of Turkish youth is in support of a federation whilst 20% of Greek Cypriots did so.

The number of those supporting a confederation is also very low.
Just 6% of Turks believe that a confederation is the best solution to the Cyprus question whilst 5% of Greek Cypriots did so.

26% of Turkish youth and 9% of Greek Cypriot youth said they thought the continuation of the current situation would be the best solution to settle the Cyprus issue.

The survey also contained questions on national identity, the European Union, religion and health.

anybody knows what was the results for above . :!: :idea:


Halil, the explanation is very simple indeed! If as a community you are only the 18% of the total, and the share of your property ownership was also along the same level, and now you believe you are in possession of 50% of the island; why would you want federation or re-unification of any sort, if you were made to believe that what you crabbed in excess was your "kismet," and that one day you may also be able to run away with it?

Halil, I said it to you many times! Whatever the TCs want or wish, is pretty much irrelevant! You do not count! You will only do whatever Turkey orders you to do, and you will sing a song or two on top of it! If it was up to you to decide, you may as well ask for the whole of Cyprus, the moon and the stars, but who cares? You do not really count, even if you have Talat there, or Eroglou or even Attila the Hun as your leader! You will only dance the Zurna tunes Turkey will play for you, and your corrupted wishes are irrelevant!

Turkey now has an imperative need to get rid of the Cyprus issue, and will drag you from legs and arms -crying or laughing, towards an agreed solution!
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