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Postby insan » Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:48 pm

Me Ed wrote:
insan wrote:
Me Ed wrote:TCs in 74 - 18%
TCs in 2009 - 8%

Kurds 2009 - 20%

Do the math.

Have u any idea what percent of citizens of TRNC have mixed Turkish-TC ethnicity and what percent of "Kurdish" citizens of Turkey have mixed ethnicity of Kurdish-Turkish, Kurdish-Arabic etc?

No, in ur simplistic mind... :lol:

Well your comments only serve to admit the annihilation of the TC identity.

My point is that the Kurd % of Turkey is greater than the TC minority in Cyprus and as for numbers we are talking millions.

Follow your Cyprus policy and break up Turkey in two and you never know, you might be small enough to be accepted into the EU.

Give the Kurds justice and grant them automity, it will only benefit Turkey.


TC idendity has been developed throughout the milleniums according to the geography and the circumstances we have been in...

From Turco-Mongol to Turco-Greco... we mingled with the locals and natives of the lands conquered by our ancestors... maybe we were Turkified hundreds of years ago... it doesn't matter...

We consider ourselves as Turkish descendant TCs... we will keep mingling with every other ethnic groups... we don't lose our idendity by mingling with other ethnic groups to the contrary we develop it... it is said that we couldn't mingle much with GCs mainly bcz of religious differences... though i don't believe the first Ottoman settlers didn't marry with GC widows/young ladies after 20.000 GC men died during the Ottoman-Venetian war in cyprus... (Used to Otomans could marry with up to 7 wives.)


As for Kurds... they already have almost more than half of the seats in Turkish parliament... u r confusing the Kurds with the terrorist organization PKK that even all EU countries declared it as a terrorist organization... (A seprate Kurdish state in SE Turkey needs the consent of 3 0r 4 other neighbouring countries of Turkey which seperatist Kurds claim soil from... maybe after a new ww-i don't wish so..)

On the other hand, it is true that once; during the establishment of nation state Turkey some rights of Kurds were prohibitted but lately their rights r being restored...

In the future, it may be transformed into a Turkish-Kurdish federation if Turkish governments fail to satisfy the demands of Kurds... we will see... I hope they don't...
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Postby Me Ed » Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:59 pm

insan wrote:
Me Ed wrote:
insan wrote:
Me Ed wrote:TCs in 74 - 18%
TCs in 2009 - 8%

Kurds 2009 - 20%

Do the math.

Have u any idea what percent of citizens of TRNC have mixed Turkish-TC ethnicity and what percent of "Kurdish" citizens of Turkey have mixed ethnicity of Kurdish-Turkish, Kurdish-Arabic etc?

No, in ur simplistic mind... :lol:

Well your comments only serve to admit the annihilation of the TC identity.

My point is that the Kurd % of Turkey is greater than the TC minority in Cyprus and as for numbers we are talking millions.

Follow your Cyprus policy and break up Turkey in two and you never know, you might be small enough to be accepted into the EU.

Give the Kurds justice and grant them automity, it will only benefit Turkey.


TC idendity has been developed throughout the milleniums according to the geography and the circumstances we have been in...

From Turco-Mongol to Turco-Greco... we mingled with the locals and natives of the lands conquered by our ancestors... maybe we were Turkified hundreds of years ago... it doesn't matter...

We consider ourselves as Turkish descendant TCs... we will keep mingling with every other ethnic groups... we don't lose our idendity by mingling with other ethnic groups to the contrary we develop it... it is said that we couldn't mingle much with GCs mainly bcz of religious differences... though i don't believe the first Ottoman settlers didn't marry with GC widows/young ladies after 20.000 GC men died during the Ottoman-Venetian war in cyprus... (Used to Otomans could marry with up to 7 wives.)


As for Kurds... they already have almost more than half of the seats in Turkish parliament... u r confusing the Kurds with the terrorist organization PKK that even all EU countries declared it as a terrorist organization... (A seprate Kurdish state in SE Turkey needs the consent of 3 0r 4 other neighbouring countries of Turkey which seperatist Kurds claim soil from... maybe after a new ww-i don't wish so..)

On the other hand, it is true that once; during the establishment of nation state Turkey some rights of Kurds were prohibitted but lately their rights r being restored...

In the future, it may be transformed into a Turkish-Kurdish federation if Turkish governments fail to satisfy the demands of Kurds... we will see... I hope they don't...

Why did you bother typing this rubbish, I am not talking ancient history I'm talking about NOW, as the TCs do.

FACT: the % of Kurds in Turkey is higher that the % of TCs in Cyprus has ever been.

Give them what they want because we are not talking about a few tens of thousand TC but a few million Kurds - do the math.
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Postby runaway » Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:01 am

another thread about Kurds from an ignorant south cypriot. If you think the Kurd on the street has the slightest sympathy towards a south cypriot, you are terribly mistaken. Killer gavurs of the island are disliked by all.
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Postby insan » Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:06 am

Me Ed wrote:
insan wrote:
Me Ed wrote:
insan wrote:
Me Ed wrote:TCs in 74 - 18%
TCs in 2009 - 8%

Kurds 2009 - 20%

Do the math.

Have u any idea what percent of citizens of TRNC have mixed Turkish-TC ethnicity and what percent of "Kurdish" citizens of Turkey have mixed ethnicity of Kurdish-Turkish, Kurdish-Arabic etc?

No, in ur simplistic mind... :lol:

Well your comments only serve to admit the annihilation of the TC identity.

My point is that the Kurd % of Turkey is greater than the TC minority in Cyprus and as for numbers we are talking millions.

Follow your Cyprus policy and break up Turkey in two and you never know, you might be small enough to be accepted into the EU.

Give the Kurds justice and grant them automity, it will only benefit Turkey.


TC idendity has been developed throughout the milleniums according to the geography and the circumstances we have been in...

From Turco-Mongol to Turco-Greco... we mingled with the locals and natives of the lands conquered by our ancestors... maybe we were Turkified hundreds of years ago... it doesn't matter...

We consider ourselves as Turkish descendant TCs... we will keep mingling with every other ethnic groups... we don't lose our idendity by mingling with other ethnic groups to the contrary we develop it... it is said that we couldn't mingle much with GCs mainly bcz of religious differences... though i don't believe the first Ottoman settlers didn't marry with GC widows/young ladies after 20.000 GC men died during the Ottoman-Venetian war in cyprus... (Used to Otomans could marry with up to 7 wives.)


As for Kurds... they already have almost more than half of the seats in Turkish parliament... u r confusing the Kurds with the terrorist organization PKK that even all EU countries declared it as a terrorist organization... (A seprate Kurdish state in SE Turkey needs the consent of 3 0r 4 other neighbouring countries of Turkey which seperatist Kurds claim soil from... maybe after a new ww-i don't wish so..)

On the other hand, it is true that once; during the establishment of nation state Turkey some rights of Kurds were prohibitted but lately their rights r being restored...

In the future, it may be transformed into a Turkish-Kurdish federation if Turkish governments fail to satisfy the demands of Kurds... we will see... I hope they don't...

Why did you bother typing this rubbish, I am not talking ancient history I'm talking about NOW, as the TCs do.

FACT: the % of Kurds in Turkey is higher that the % of TCs in Cyprus has ever been.

Give them what they want because we are not talking about a few tens of thousand TC but a few million Kurds - do the math.


"Now" will be history after a while but it does not suit u to understand the point i've raised... :wink:
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Postby Me Ed » Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:18 am

runaway wrote:another thread about Kurds from an ignorant south cypriot. If you think the Kurd on the street has the slightest sympathy towards a south cypriot, you are terribly mistaken. Killer gavurs of the island are disliked by all.

What an idiot, TCs are the ones looking for sympathy, the thread starter was drawing a parallel to a peoples that has more claims than the TCs.
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Postby Me Ed » Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:23 am

insan wrote:
Me Ed wrote:
insan wrote:
Me Ed wrote:
insan wrote:
Me Ed wrote:TCs in 74 - 18%
TCs in 2009 - 8%

Kurds 2009 - 20%

Do the math.

Have u any idea what percent of citizens of TRNC have mixed Turkish-TC ethnicity and what percent of "Kurdish" citizens of Turkey have mixed ethnicity of Kurdish-Turkish, Kurdish-Arabic etc?

No, in ur simplistic mind... :lol:

Well your comments only serve to admit the annihilation of the TC identity.

My point is that the Kurd % of Turkey is greater than the TC minority in Cyprus and as for numbers we are talking millions.

Follow your Cyprus policy and break up Turkey in two and you never know, you might be small enough to be accepted into the EU.

Give the Kurds justice and grant them automity, it will only benefit Turkey.


TC idendity has been developed throughout the milleniums according to the geography and the circumstances we have been in...

From Turco-Mongol to Turco-Greco... we mingled with the locals and natives of the lands conquered by our ancestors... maybe we were Turkified hundreds of years ago... it doesn't matter...

We consider ourselves as Turkish descendant TCs... we will keep mingling with every other ethnic groups... we don't lose our idendity by mingling with other ethnic groups to the contrary we develop it... it is said that we couldn't mingle much with GCs mainly bcz of religious differences... though i don't believe the first Ottoman settlers didn't marry with GC widows/young ladies after 20.000 GC men died during the Ottoman-Venetian war in cyprus... (Used to Otomans could marry with up to 7 wives.)


As for Kurds... they already have almost more than half of the seats in Turkish parliament... u r confusing the Kurds with the terrorist organization PKK that even all EU countries declared it as a terrorist organization... (A seprate Kurdish state in SE Turkey needs the consent of 3 0r 4 other neighbouring countries of Turkey which seperatist Kurds claim soil from... maybe after a new ww-i don't wish so..)

On the other hand, it is true that once; during the establishment of nation state Turkey some rights of Kurds were prohibitted but lately their rights r being restored...

In the future, it may be transformed into a Turkish-Kurdish federation if Turkish governments fail to satisfy the demands of Kurds... we will see... I hope they don't...

Why did you bother typing this rubbish, I am not talking ancient history I'm talking about NOW, as the TCs do.

FACT: the % of Kurds in Turkey is higher that the % of TCs in Cyprus has ever been.

Give them what they want because we are not talking about a few tens of thousand TC but a few million Kurds - do the math.


"Now" will be history after a while but it does not suit u to understand the point i've raised... :wink:

You sound like a GC on this matter dude.
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Postby insan » Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:46 am

Me Ed wrote:
insan wrote:
Me Ed wrote:
insan wrote:
Me Ed wrote:
insan wrote:
Me Ed wrote:TCs in 74 - 18%
TCs in 2009 - 8%

Kurds 2009 - 20%

Do the math.

Have u any idea what percent of citizens of TRNC have mixed Turkish-TC ethnicity and what percent of "Kurdish" citizens of Turkey have mixed ethnicity of Kurdish-Turkish, Kurdish-Arabic etc?

No, in ur simplistic mind... :lol:

Well your comments only serve to admit the annihilation of the TC identity.

My point is that the Kurd % of Turkey is greater than the TC minority in Cyprus and as for numbers we are talking millions.

Follow your Cyprus policy and break up Turkey in two and you never know, you might be small enough to be accepted into the EU.

Give the Kurds justice and grant them automity, it will only benefit Turkey.


TC idendity has been developed throughout the milleniums according to the geography and the circumstances we have been in...

From Turco-Mongol to Turco-Greco... we mingled with the locals and natives of the lands conquered by our ancestors... maybe we were Turkified hundreds of years ago... it doesn't matter...

We consider ourselves as Turkish descendant TCs... we will keep mingling with every other ethnic groups... we don't lose our idendity by mingling with other ethnic groups to the contrary we develop it... it is said that we couldn't mingle much with GCs mainly bcz of religious differences... though i don't believe the first Ottoman settlers didn't marry with GC widows/young ladies after 20.000 GC men died during the Ottoman-Venetian war in cyprus... (Used to Otomans could marry with up to 7 wives.)


As for Kurds... they already have almost more than half of the seats in Turkish parliament... u r confusing the Kurds with the terrorist organization PKK that even all EU countries declared it as a terrorist organization... (A seprate Kurdish state in SE Turkey needs the consent of 3 0r 4 other neighbouring countries of Turkey which seperatist Kurds claim soil from... maybe after a new ww-i don't wish so..)

On the other hand, it is true that once; during the establishment of nation state Turkey some rights of Kurds were prohibitted but lately their rights r being restored...

In the future, it may be transformed into a Turkish-Kurdish federation if Turkish governments fail to satisfy the demands of Kurds... we will see... I hope they don't...

Why did you bother typing this rubbish, I am not talking ancient history I'm talking about NOW, as the TCs do.

FACT: the % of Kurds in Turkey is higher that the % of TCs in Cyprus has ever been.

Give them what they want because we are not talking about a few tens of thousand TC but a few million Kurds - do the math.


"Now" will be history after a while but it does not suit u to understand the point i've raised... :wink:

You sound like a GC on this matter dude.


u still can't get it right, m8... :wink:
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Postby Oracle » Thu Dec 17, 2009 1:02 am

Turkey is a failed experiment.

It must be dismantled to stop the further growth of this Frankenstein-like monster ....
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Postby Me Ed » Thu Dec 17, 2009 1:29 am

insan wrote:
Me Ed wrote:
insan wrote:
Me Ed wrote:
insan wrote:
Me Ed wrote:
insan wrote:
Me Ed wrote:TCs in 74 - 18%
TCs in 2009 - 8%

Kurds 2009 - 20%

Do the math.

Have u any idea what percent of citizens of TRNC have mixed Turkish-TC ethnicity and what percent of "Kurdish" citizens of Turkey have mixed ethnicity of Kurdish-Turkish, Kurdish-Arabic etc?

No, in ur simplistic mind... :lol:

Well your comments only serve to admit the annihilation of the TC identity.

My point is that the Kurd % of Turkey is greater than the TC minority in Cyprus and as for numbers we are talking millions.

Follow your Cyprus policy and break up Turkey in two and you never know, you might be small enough to be accepted into the EU.

Give the Kurds justice and grant them automity, it will only benefit Turkey.


TC idendity has been developed throughout the milleniums according to the geography and the circumstances we have been in...

From Turco-Mongol to Turco-Greco... we mingled with the locals and natives of the lands conquered by our ancestors... maybe we were Turkified hundreds of years ago... it doesn't matter...

We consider ourselves as Turkish descendant TCs... we will keep mingling with every other ethnic groups... we don't lose our idendity by mingling with other ethnic groups to the contrary we develop it... it is said that we couldn't mingle much with GCs mainly bcz of religious differences... though i don't believe the first Ottoman settlers didn't marry with GC widows/young ladies after 20.000 GC men died during the Ottoman-Venetian war in cyprus... (Used to Otomans could marry with up to 7 wives.)


As for Kurds... they already have almost more than half of the seats in Turkish parliament... u r confusing the Kurds with the terrorist organization PKK that even all EU countries declared it as a terrorist organization... (A seprate Kurdish state in SE Turkey needs the consent of 3 0r 4 other neighbouring countries of Turkey which seperatist Kurds claim soil from... maybe after a new ww-i don't wish so..)

On the other hand, it is true that once; during the establishment of nation state Turkey some rights of Kurds were prohibitted but lately their rights r being restored...

In the future, it may be transformed into a Turkish-Kurdish federation if Turkish governments fail to satisfy the demands of Kurds... we will see... I hope they don't...

Why did you bother typing this rubbish, I am not talking ancient history I'm talking about NOW, as the TCs do.

FACT: the % of Kurds in Turkey is higher that the % of TCs in Cyprus has ever been.

Give them what they want because we are not talking about a few tens of thousand TC but a few million Kurds - do the math.


"Now" will be history after a while but it does not suit u to understand the point i've raised... :wink:

You sound like a GC on this matter dude.


u still can't get it right, m8... :wink:

Give the Kurds their freedom dude!

They out number you in eastern Turkey.
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Postby insan » Thu Dec 17, 2009 1:31 am

Oracle wrote:Turkey is a failed experiment.

It must be dismantled to stop the further growth of this Frankenstein-like monster ....


Dismantling Turkey from Cyprus was the desire of Grivas, EOKA-B and Grivasites... poor they... they failed. :lol:

R u the last of the Grivasites, O? :lol:
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