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[pissouri]

I appologize if I sounded rude in any of the above posts.

I was not trying to argue with you about this.

No problem you are not being rude.

The problem with the JW is that it is all doom and gloom, they sit around waiting for the second coming and believe that they are the chosen people. It is sad really.

You have family that are JW's and they tell you that there is a second comming? that is not what is beleived by JW's
Its not doom and gloom its a faith in a better world to come.
JW's will not be the only ones to take part in the better world that they beleive in either.
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Kristyn, I think you are confused, the JW base all their arguements on "Revelations" the second coming of Christ. In the shisma the 144,000 will go directly to heaven.

[Kristyn]

Kristyn, I think you are confused, the JW base all their arguments on "Revelations" the second coming of Christ. In the shisma the 144,000 will go directly to heaven.

I am not confused. Yes 144,000 will go to heaven but the earth will return to a paradise as it was meant to be. This is where the following believers of God will be. It is not just for "JW's". It is for all those who except him in their hearts.

JW's use the entire bible to base their arguments from. The book Revelations is of what is to come... Not a second coming of christ.

I am not saying that JW's are correct in all their beliefs. But I do know what is taught by JW's

[FragnaticDeath]

Miltiadis if your serious about that. Then omg! Whats wrong with this people. This stuff are the only things that actually bring love and joy in our lives. Believing in crap like 144,000 going to heaven it just shows quite the opposite of religion.

It's no different from those people who believe in the anti-christ.

This type of celebrations is what brings all of the families together. I wouldnt blame if one of the kids end up being a serial killer or mass massacre killer ( pops in a room and shoots 20 people for no reason )

[pissouri]

Kristyn, I think you are confused, the JW base all their arguments on "Revelations" the second coming of Christ. In the shisma the 144,000 will go directly to heaven.

I am not confused. Yes 144,000 will go to heaven but the earth will return to a paradise as it was meant to be. This is where the following believers of God will be. It is not just for "JW's". It is for all those who except him in their hearts.

JW's use the entire bible to base their arguments from. The book Revelations is of what is to come... Not a second coming of christ.

I am not saying that JW's are correct in all their beliefs. But I do know what is taught by JW's

Please Kristyn, stop if you don't know what you are talking about. Revelations or the Apocalypse where Christ defeats the Devil. Please do a quick search on google and you will see.

[pissouri]

The shisma and the 144,000 is not mentioned in the bible, but was something made up by a few of the heretics i.e Bill Graham, etc. and the JW.

[Linichka]

Get your own facts right, piss. 7 January = 25 December on the Julian calendar. Old Calendar Orthodox celebrate on this day.

[miltiades]

Miltiadis if your serious about that. Then omg! Whats wrong with this people. This stuff are the only things that actually bring love and joy in our lives. Believing in crap like 144,000 going to heaven it just shows quite the opposite of religion.

It's no different from those people who believe in the anti-christ.

This type of celebrations is what brings all of the families together. I wouldnt blame if one of the kids end up being a serial killer or mass massacre killer ( pops in a room and shoots 20 people for no reason )

One of my brother's son , a devout JW , never saw his auntie, my late wife , not once during her almost 8 years of battle with cancer.Many times I would see him with his fellow JWs , briefcase in hand and a stupid smirk , going past our road , he would knock on our next door neighbours and yet he would not knock on mine and ask how his aunty was.
He came to see me the day that my wife passed away , I hold no grudges against anyone , highly ctritical I most certainly am , but never hold a grudge , he is after all my brothers son.
All JWs are obliged by their elders to convert others to their fucking stupid faith , those that are successful will be amongst those that will survive !!! What absolute bollocks !!
I believe in angels but I believe that these angels are right here amongst us , I have met them and shared a part of my life with them right here on this earth , the angels that look after the not so well , the angels that work for Hospices , institutions such as McMillan's who devote so much of their time to the terminally ill. Angels that even after the ultimate juncture still show care to the bereaved , still call to enquire as to how you are coping , no ulterior motive just kind and considerate angels right here on earth , not bloody door knockers who want to live for ever .

[pissouri]

Get your own facts right, piss. 7 January = 25 December on the Julian calendar. Old Calendar Orthodox celebrate on this day.

So what did I say!!!! that Christmas is on the 7th Jan....

However I am right when I say the 25th December was a pagan holiday

[miltiades]

Get your own facts right, piss. 7 January = 25 December on the Julian calendar. Old Calendar Orthodox celebrate on this day.

So what did I say!!!! that Christmas is on the 7th Jan....

However I am right when I say the 25th December was a pagan holiday

All religious celebrations derive from pageantry . Children however enjoy these "pagan" events tremendously and families get together and have a good time.
Cant wait to put that father Xmas costume on on Xmas morning , the grandchildren will so much enjoy it.

[Floda]

Cant wait to put that father Xmas costume on on Xmas morning , the grandchildren will so much enjoy it.

Especially (when tottering around as pissed as a Newt) I start effing and blinding at 'em. !!.