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Postby erolz » Sun Jul 17, 2005 9:09 pm

2fan wrote:Erolz,

Fantastic Idea!!!. I won't be in Turkey and Greece until mid to late August so I can't help personally but I would be willing to make a financial donation. If you're interested email me with info. BTW I'm new to the forum hello to everyone.


Thanks for the offer but really this idea does not need financing, just some comittment of time from people in Cyprus.

Welcome to the forums btw :)
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Postby suetoniuspaulinus » Sun Jul 17, 2005 10:35 pm

Mr erolz

I do not mean to be funny but might you not also need approval from the Church. ? (I mean Cyprus Orthodox)

Nice idea btw, I assume you mean the cemetry next to the British Cemetry?

July and August can be a smidge warm have you considered September?

I wish you every success.
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Postby erolz » Sun Jul 17, 2005 10:41 pm

suetoniuspaulinus wrote:Mr erolz

I do not mean to be funny but might you not also need approval from the Church. ? (I mean Cyprus Orthodox)


I am in the process of trying to establish what permissions may be needed, is any. Any ideas help on that front are most welcome.

suetoniuspaulinus wrote:Nice idea btw, I assume you mean the cemetry next to the British Cemetry?


In Girne / Kyrenia - yes that is the one.

suetoniuspaulinus wrote:July and August can be a smidge warm have you considered September?


True but a little sweat is worth it is it not? ;)

suetoniuspaulinus wrote:I wish you every success.


Will you be offering your personal support (labour) as well as your best wishes? ;)
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Postby cannedmoose » Sun Jul 17, 2005 11:14 pm

Erolz, are you planning on this being a regular event, i.e. right throughout the year, or just in summer? Secondly, you could seek financing for the project from one of the NGOs, for purchase of gardening implements and the like. I'd assume that some of these places are in a right mess and might need a bit of minor landscaping to get things in order.

I think it's an inspired idea, keep us updated on how things progress.
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Postby erolz » Mon Jul 18, 2005 12:25 am

cannedmoose wrote:Erolz, are you planning on this being a regular event, i.e. right throughout the year, or just in summer?


I would like to think it could become a regular event running year round, but I believe in crawling before trying to walk or run. The first stage would be to see if we can get some GC and TC working togeater, once on this one sepcific cemetary. If we can acheive this then we can go for a simialar one of event in the south. If that works then sure why not a '2nd sunday of every month' is come and clean up a cemetary day.

cannedmoose wrote:Secondly, you could seek financing for the project from one of the NGOs, for purchase of gardening implements and the like. I'd assume that some of these places are in a right mess and might need a bit of minor landscaping to get things in order.


I think financing would couase more problems than it solves at this stage. I have some gardening tools. I have a car. I am happy to use both at my own expense for a couple of hours to help tidy up the cemetary and am pretty sure others would be too. The cemetary that sparked my idea off has more than enough work that can be done without the need for any funding right now. Maybe later funding might become appropriate and necessary but at this stage I think not. On a similar vien I would not like to seek any 'press coverage' for this. This is not a stunt as far as I am concerned. Its about ordianary people doing something collaboratively that should be done.

cannedmoose wrote:I think it's an inspired idea, keep us updated on how things progress.


Will do and thanks for the kind words.
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Postby cypezokyli » Wed Jul 20, 2005 4:58 pm

any news?
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Postby cannedmoose » Wed Jul 20, 2005 5:43 pm

cypezokyli wrote:any news?


Give the guy some time. He's Cypriot... and it's summertime so either everyone's at the beach or sleeping. :D
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Postby erolz » Wed Jul 20, 2005 6:28 pm

Just to update anyone interested.

I WILL be persuing this but not 'immediately'. The reason for the delay are two fold. Firstly in my personal life I am currenlty have some other things that have to take priority (one of which is getting my sat based internet connection up and running again). The seond reason that has been impressed upon me is that July is not the best month in Cyprus to start such a project. In reality then this may mean waiting till spetember ish to push forward with this idea. Of course if others wish to and are able to persue it before then, then I am more than happy for them to do so - I hold now 'ownership' over this idea as far as I am concerned.

In the mean time I will try and put up some photos of the cemetary in Kyrenia/Girne that sparked the idea off.
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Postby erolz » Sat Jul 23, 2005 6:15 pm

erolz wrote:Just to update anyone interested.
In the mean time I will try and put up some photos of the cemetary in Kyrenia/Girne that sparked the idea off.


here are the 'promised' pictures

http://www.visionmatters.co.uk/cyprus/IMG_0275.JPG
http://www.visionmatters.co.uk/cyprus/IMG_0276.JPG
http://www.visionmatters.co.uk/cyprus/IMG_0279.JPG
http://www.visionmatters.co.uk/cyprus/IMG_0281.JPG
http://www.visionmatters.co.uk/cyprus/IMG_0284.JPG

and for comparision here is a pic of the internatational cemetary that ajoins the one above (that is in current use)

http://www.visionmatters.co.uk/cyprus/IMG_0274.JPG

I am aiming for the second sunday in Spetemeber to start this project btw.
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Postby Filitsa » Sat Jul 23, 2005 7:24 pm

Wow! These photos bring tears to my eyes. This is a noble undertaking, Erolz, a grand symbolic gesture that also serves a purpose. If I lived in CY, I would join you in a snap. You have my respect.
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