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Postby cyprusgrump » Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:55 pm

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FragnaticDeath wrote:If you want to destroy your health go ahead but destroying others people health around you without themselves wanting it to is wrong.

If cigarette smoking was so bad they’d all be dropping like flies! :lol:


Tell me one good thing about it

Smokers enjoy it...

...and you benefit from huge tax revenues...

Sorry, that is two things.


I am not a smoker so please, again, tell me what is good about it?

Why are you ONLY trying to please NON SMOKERS? Doesn't that slightly contradict what you said earlier? :roll:

Also, please find me a chart or something which outlines the cost of society of smoking (smoking related diseases) vs tax benefits.


Which part of the huge tax revenues did you miss...?

Where am I only trying to please non-smokers? :? I don't smoke but don't believe in this undemocratic ban... because it will lead to others...


Smokers enjoy it....................well I am not a smoker. So please tell me why it is good ? (for smokers and non smokers)


[quote="Cyprusgrump"
How about freedom of choice?


My choice is that I wish to lead a healthy life


And you are happy that others lose their freedom of choice to please you?

Even if as a result you will give up other freedoms?


Yes.


Good!

Because when you can't eat what you want, drink what you want or travel where you want (that nasty polluting car will have to go) you'll at least be able to say that you don't have to share the pub with smokers!

Oh, except there won't be any pubs...


There will always be pubs/restaurants! :roll:


Of course there will... I'm sure none are closing due to the ban! :lol:

See Toffee - he didn't even read it! :lol:
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Postby Z4 » Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:57 pm

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Get Real! wrote:
FragnaticDeath wrote:If you want to destroy your health go ahead but destroying others people health around you without themselves wanting it to is wrong.

If cigarette smoking was so bad they’d all be dropping like flies! :lol:


Tell me one good thing about it

Smokers enjoy it...

...and you benefit from huge tax revenues...

Sorry, that is two things.


I am not a smoker so please, again, tell me what is good about it?

Why are you ONLY trying to please NON SMOKERS? Doesn't that slightly contradict what you said earlier? :roll:

Also, please find me a chart or something which outlines the cost of society of smoking (smoking related diseases) vs tax benefits.


Which part of the huge tax revenues did you miss...?

Where am I only trying to please non-smokers? :? I don't smoke but don't believe in this undemocratic ban... because it will lead to others...


Smokers enjoy it....................well I am not a smoker. So please tell me why it is good ? (for smokers and non smokers)


[quote="Cyprusgrump"
How about freedom of choice?


My choice is that I wish to lead a healthy life


And you are happy that others lose their freedom of choice to please you?

Even if as a result you will give up other freedoms?


Yes.


Good!

Because when you can't eat what you want, drink what you want or travel where you want (that nasty polluting car will have to go) you'll at least be able to say that you don't have to share the pub with smokers!

Oh, except there won't be any pubs...


There will always be pubs/restaurants! :roll:


Of course there will... I'm sure none are closing due to the ban! :lol:

See Toffee - he didn't even read it! :lol:


Some will close and some will open. I personally prefer to eat in restaurants anyway and not traditional pubs.
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Postby cyprusgrump » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:01 pm

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Get Real! wrote:
FragnaticDeath wrote:If you want to destroy your health go ahead but destroying others people health around you without themselves wanting it to is wrong.

If cigarette smoking was so bad they’d all be dropping like flies! :lol:


Tell me one good thing about it

Smokers enjoy it...

...and you benefit from huge tax revenues...

Sorry, that is two things.


I am not a smoker so please, again, tell me what is good about it?

Why are you ONLY trying to please NON SMOKERS? Doesn't that slightly contradict what you said earlier? :roll:

Also, please find me a chart or something which outlines the cost of society of smoking (smoking related diseases) vs tax benefits.


Which part of the huge tax revenues did you miss...?

Where am I only trying to please non-smokers? :? I don't smoke but don't believe in this undemocratic ban... because it will lead to others...


Smokers enjoy it....................well I am not a smoker. So please tell me why it is good ? (for smokers and non smokers)


[quote="Cyprusgrump"
How about freedom of choice?


My choice is that I wish to lead a healthy life


And you are happy that others lose their freedom of choice to please you?

Even if as a result you will give up other freedoms?


Yes.


Good!

Because when you can't eat what you want, drink what you want or travel where you want (that nasty polluting car will have to go) you'll at least be able to say that you don't have to share the pub with smokers!

Oh, except there won't be any pubs...


There will always be pubs/restaurants! :roll:


Of course there will... I'm sure none are closing due to the ban! :lol:

See Toffee - he didn't even read it! :lol:


Some will close and some will open. I personally prefer to eat in restaurants anyway and not traditional pubs.


Of course...

All is well... :lol:
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Postby Z4 » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:02 pm

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Get Real! wrote:
FragnaticDeath wrote:If you want to destroy your health go ahead but destroying others people health around you without themselves wanting it to is wrong.

If cigarette smoking was so bad they’d all be dropping like flies! :lol:


Tell me one good thing about it

Smokers enjoy it...

...and you benefit from huge tax revenues...

Sorry, that is two things.


I am not a smoker so please, again, tell me what is good about it?

Why are you ONLY trying to please NON SMOKERS? Doesn't that slightly contradict what you said earlier? :roll:

Also, please find me a chart or something which outlines the cost of society of smoking (smoking related diseases) vs tax benefits.


Which part of the huge tax revenues did you miss...?

Where am I only trying to please non-smokers? :? I don't smoke but don't believe in this undemocratic ban... because it will lead to others...


Smokers enjoy it....................well I am not a smoker. So please tell me why it is good ? (for smokers and non smokers)


[quote="Cyprusgrump"
How about freedom of choice?


My choice is that I wish to lead a healthy life


And you are happy that others lose their freedom of choice to please you?

Even if as a result you will give up other freedoms?


Yes.


Good!

Because when you can't eat what you want, drink what you want or travel where you want (that nasty polluting car will have to go) you'll at least be able to say that you don't have to share the pub with smokers!

Oh, except there won't be any pubs...


There will always be pubs/restaurants! :roll:


Of course there will... I'm sure none are closing due to the ban! :lol:

See Toffee - he didn't even read it! :lol:


Some will close and some will open. I personally prefer to eat in restaurants anyway and not traditional pubs.


Of course...

All is well... :lol:


All is well yes :wink:
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Postby cyprusgrump » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:06 pm

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Get Real! wrote:
FragnaticDeath wrote:If you want to destroy your health go ahead but destroying others people health around you without themselves wanting it to is wrong.

If cigarette smoking was so bad they’d all be dropping like flies! :lol:


Tell me one good thing about it

Smokers enjoy it...

...and you benefit from huge tax revenues...

Sorry, that is two things.


I am not a smoker so please, again, tell me what is good about it?

Why are you ONLY trying to please NON SMOKERS? Doesn't that slightly contradict what you said earlier? :roll:

Also, please find me a chart or something which outlines the cost of society of smoking (smoking related diseases) vs tax benefits.


Which part of the huge tax revenues did you miss...?

Where am I only trying to please non-smokers? :? I don't smoke but don't believe in this undemocratic ban... because it will lead to others...


Smokers enjoy it....................well I am not a smoker. So please tell me why it is good ? (for smokers and non smokers)


[quote="Cyprusgrump"
How about freedom of choice?


My choice is that I wish to lead a healthy life


And you are happy that others lose their freedom of choice to please you?

Even if as a result you will give up other freedoms?


Yes.


Good!

Because when you can't eat what you want, drink what you want or travel where you want (that nasty polluting car will have to go) you'll at least be able to say that you don't have to share the pub with smokers!

Oh, except there won't be any pubs...


There will always be pubs/restaurants! :roll:


Of course there will... I'm sure none are closing due to the ban! :lol:

See Toffee - he didn't even read it! :lol:


Some will close and some will open. I personally prefer to eat in restaurants anyway and not traditional pubs.


Of course...

All is well... :lol:


All is well yes :wink:


Until they stop you drinking in there, or perhaps limit you to one glass...

...and the menu is altered to reduce your fat and salt intake so your favourite dish is removed...

...and you have to take the bus - you're car is far too polluting...

Decisions made because you decided to renounce your freedom to choose if you remember?
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Postby Z4 » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:13 pm

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Get Real! wrote:
FragnaticDeath wrote:If you want to destroy your health go ahead but destroying others people health around you without themselves wanting it to is wrong.

If cigarette smoking was so bad they’d all be dropping like flies! :lol:


Tell me one good thing about it

Smokers enjoy it...

...and you benefit from huge tax revenues...

Sorry, that is two things.


I am not a smoker so please, again, tell me what is good about it?

Why are you ONLY trying to please NON SMOKERS? Doesn't that slightly contradict what you said earlier? :roll:

Also, please find me a chart or something which outlines the cost of society of smoking (smoking related diseases) vs tax benefits.


Which part of the huge tax revenues did you miss...?

Where am I only trying to please non-smokers? :? I don't smoke but don't believe in this undemocratic ban... because it will lead to others...


Smokers enjoy it....................well I am not a smoker. So please tell me why it is good ? (for smokers and non smokers)


[quote="Cyprusgrump"
How about freedom of choice?


My choice is that I wish to lead a healthy life


And you are happy that others lose their freedom of choice to please you?

Even if as a result you will give up other freedoms?


Yes.


Good!

Because when you can't eat what you want, drink what you want or travel where you want (that nasty polluting car will have to go) you'll at least be able to say that you don't have to share the pub with smokers!

Oh, except there won't be any pubs...


There will always be pubs/restaurants! :roll:


Of course there will... I'm sure none are closing due to the ban! :lol:

See Toffee - he didn't even read it! :lol:


Some will close and some will open. I personally prefer to eat in restaurants anyway and not traditional pubs.


Of course...

All is well... :lol:


All is well yes :wink:


Until they stop you drinking in there, or perhaps limit you to one glass...

...and the menu is altered to reduce your fat and salt intake so your favourite dish is removed...

...and you have to take the bus - you're car is far too polluting...

Decisions made because you decided to renounce your freedom to choose if you remember?


That's absolutely fine with me. If they think the meal is too fatty I will try something else, no problem. Something more healthier and less likely to damage my insides is good with me.

If they limit me to one drink, that's fine. If they say get the bus then I will get the bus.

Smokers need to deal with it.
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Postby cyprusgrump » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:16 pm

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Get Real! wrote:
FragnaticDeath wrote:If you want to destroy your health go ahead but destroying others people health around you without themselves wanting it to is wrong.

If cigarette smoking was so bad they’d all be dropping like flies! :lol:


Tell me one good thing about it

Smokers enjoy it...

...and you benefit from huge tax revenues...

Sorry, that is two things.


I am not a smoker so please, again, tell me what is good about it?

Why are you ONLY trying to please NON SMOKERS? Doesn't that slightly contradict what you said earlier? :roll:

Also, please find me a chart or something which outlines the cost of society of smoking (smoking related diseases) vs tax benefits.


Which part of the huge tax revenues did you miss...?

Where am I only trying to please non-smokers? :? I don't smoke but don't believe in this undemocratic ban... because it will lead to others...


Smokers enjoy it....................well I am not a smoker. So please tell me why it is good ? (for smokers and non smokers)


[quote="Cyprusgrump"
How about freedom of choice?


My choice is that I wish to lead a healthy life


And you are happy that others lose their freedom of choice to please you?

Even if as a result you will give up other freedoms?


Yes.


Good!

Because when you can't eat what you want, drink what you want or travel where you want (that nasty polluting car will have to go) you'll at least be able to say that you don't have to share the pub with smokers!

Oh, except there won't be any pubs...


There will always be pubs/restaurants! :roll:


Of course there will... I'm sure none are closing due to the ban! :lol:

See Toffee - he didn't even read it! :lol:


Some will close and some will open. I personally prefer to eat in restaurants anyway and not traditional pubs.


Of course...

All is well... :lol:


All is well yes :wink:


Until they stop you drinking in there, or perhaps limit you to one glass...

...and the menu is altered to reduce your fat and salt intake so your favourite dish is removed...

...and you have to take the bus - you're car is far too polluting...

Decisions made because you decided to renounce your freedom to choose if you remember?


That's absolutely fine with me. If they think the meal is too fatty I will try something else, no problem. Something more healthier and less likely to damage my insides is good with me.

If they limit me to one drink, that's fine. If they say get the bus then I will just goto my take-away and supermarket to pick up the food and drink I want.

Smokers need to deal with it.


But you won't be able to buy booze at the supermarket!

Or fatty food!

You gave up those rights remember?

You decided to let the unelected make decisions about everything you can and can't do - just like they've done with smokers.

Do you see now?
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Postby CBBB » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:18 pm

When will they tell me I can't smoke and drink in my own house? I am sure Labour must have that somewhere in their back pockets!
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Postby Z4 » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:20 pm

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Get Real! wrote:
FragnaticDeath wrote:If you want to destroy your health go ahead but destroying others people health around you without themselves wanting it to is wrong.

If cigarette smoking was so bad they’d all be dropping like flies! :lol:


Tell me one good thing about it

Smokers enjoy it...

...and you benefit from huge tax revenues...

Sorry, that is two things.


I am not a smoker so please, again, tell me what is good about it?

Why are you ONLY trying to please NON SMOKERS? Doesn't that slightly contradict what you said earlier? :roll:

Also, please find me a chart or something which outlines the cost of society of smoking (smoking related diseases) vs tax benefits.


Which part of the huge tax revenues did you miss...?

Where am I only trying to please non-smokers? :? I don't smoke but don't believe in this undemocratic ban... because it will lead to others...


Smokers enjoy it....................well I am not a smoker. So please tell me why it is good ? (for smokers and non smokers)


[quote="Cyprusgrump"
How about freedom of choice?


My choice is that I wish to lead a healthy life


And you are happy that others lose their freedom of choice to please you?

Even if as a result you will give up other freedoms?


Yes.


Good!

Because when you can't eat what you want, drink what you want or travel where you want (that nasty polluting car will have to go) you'll at least be able to say that you don't have to share the pub with smokers!

Oh, except there won't be any pubs...


There will always be pubs/restaurants! :roll:


Of course there will... I'm sure none are closing due to the ban! :lol:

See Toffee - he didn't even read it! :lol:


Some will close and some will open. I personally prefer to eat in restaurants anyway and not traditional pubs.


Of course...

All is well... :lol:


All is well yes :wink:


Until they stop you drinking in there, or perhaps limit you to one glass...

...and the menu is altered to reduce your fat and salt intake so your favourite dish is removed...

...and you have to take the bus - you're car is far too polluting...

Decisions made because you decided to renounce your freedom to choose if you remember?


That's absolutely fine with me. If they think the meal is too fatty I will try something else, no problem. Something more healthier and less likely to damage my insides is good with me.

If they limit me to one drink, that's fine. If they say get the bus then I will just goto my take-away and supermarket to pick up the food and drink I want.

Smokers need to deal with it.


But you won't be able to buy booze at the supermarket!

Or fatty food!

You gave up those rights remember?

You decided to let the unelected make decisions about everything you can and can't do - just like they've done with smokers.

Do you see now?


Sorry yes, I will then find somewhere else to buy my booze from. I will have to adjust
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Postby Z4 » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:21 pm

CBBB wrote:When will they tell me I can't smoke and drink in my own house? I am sure Labour must have that somewhere in their back pockets!


I'm quite shocked you can actually see through the fag smoke and see the keyboard to type CBBB :lol:

Labour are thinking (I heard) that they are toying with the idea to tax you on your internet usuage!!
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