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Postby cyprusgrump » Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:34 pm

Z4 wrote:
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FragnaticDeath wrote:If you want to destroy your health go ahead but destroying others people health around you without themselves wanting it to is wrong.

If cigarette smoking was so bad they’d all be dropping like flies! :lol:


Tell me one good thing about it

Smokers enjoy it...

...and you benefit from huge tax revenues...

Sorry, that is two things.


I am not a smoker so please, again, tell me what is good about it?

Why are you ONLY trying to please NON SMOKERS? Doesn't that slightly contradict what you said earlier? :roll:

Also, please find me a chart or something which outlines the cost of society of smoking (smoking related diseases) vs tax benefits.


Which part of the huge tax revenues did you miss...?

Where am I only trying to please non-smokers? :? I don't smoke but don't believe in this undemocratic ban... because it will lead to others...


Smokers enjoy it....................well I am not a smoker. So please tell me why it is good ? (for smokers and non smokers)


How about freedom of choice?


My choice is that I wish to lead a healthy life. Likewise, if I want to eat fatty foods etc that is my choice.


Wrong!

Those same people that have taken away the rights of smokers now want to take away yoiur right to eat fatty foods!

Do you see now?
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Postby Z4 » Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:34 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
Z4 wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Z4 wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Z4 wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Z4 wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
FragnaticDeath wrote:If you want to destroy your health go ahead but destroying others people health around you without themselves wanting it to is wrong.

If cigarette smoking was so bad they’d all be dropping like flies! :lol:


Tell me one good thing about it

Smokers enjoy it...

...and you benefit from huge tax revenues...

Sorry, that is two things.


I am not a smoker so please, again, tell me what is good about it?

Why are you ONLY trying to please NON SMOKERS? Doesn't that slightly contradict what you said earlier? :roll:

Also, please find me a chart or something which outlines the cost of society of smoking (smoking related diseases) vs tax benefits.


Which part of the huge tax revenues did you miss...?

Where am I only trying to please non-smokers? :? I don't smoke but don't believe in this undemocratic ban... because it will lead to others...


Smokers enjoy it....................well I am not a smoker. So please tell me why it is good ? (for smokers and non smokers)


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How about freedom of choice?


My choice is that I wish to lead a healthy life


And you are happy that others lose their freedom of choice to please you?

Even if as a result you will give up other freedoms?


Yes.
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Postby Toffee » Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:36 pm

Z4,
You really need to move here full time - the village idiot died last year and the vacancy is still open. Listen to Grump will you -its about your freedoms -it's not about "smoking" per -se.
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Postby cyprusgrump » Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:41 pm

Z4 wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Z4 wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Z4 wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Z4 wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Z4 wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
FragnaticDeath wrote:If you want to destroy your health go ahead but destroying others people health around you without themselves wanting it to is wrong.

If cigarette smoking was so bad they’d all be dropping like flies! :lol:


Tell me one good thing about it

Smokers enjoy it...

...and you benefit from huge tax revenues...

Sorry, that is two things.


I am not a smoker so please, again, tell me what is good about it?

Why are you ONLY trying to please NON SMOKERS? Doesn't that slightly contradict what you said earlier? :roll:

Also, please find me a chart or something which outlines the cost of society of smoking (smoking related diseases) vs tax benefits.


Which part of the huge tax revenues did you miss...?

Where am I only trying to please non-smokers? :? I don't smoke but don't believe in this undemocratic ban... because it will lead to others...


Smokers enjoy it....................well I am not a smoker. So please tell me why it is good ? (for smokers and non smokers)


[quote="Cyprusgrump"
How about freedom of choice?


My choice is that I wish to lead a healthy life


And you are happy that others lose their freedom of choice to please you?

Even if as a result you will give up other freedoms?


Yes.


Good!

Because when you can't eat what you want, drink what you want or travel where you want (that nasty polluting car will have to go) you'll at least be able to say that you don't have to share the pub with smokers!

Oh, except there won't be any pubs...
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Postby cyprusgrump » Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:43 pm

Toffee wrote:Z4,
You really need to move here full time - the village idiot died last year and the vacancy is still open. Listen to Grump will you -its about your freedoms -it's not about "smoking" per -se.


You'll never convince the anti-smoking brigade! :lol:

Not until they ban something that they like...

By then it will be too late...

But a=t least we'll be able to say "we told you so". :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:49 pm

Alcohol consumption is the primary culprit of road fatalities yet nobody seems to want to ban it! :roll:
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Postby Toffee » Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:49 pm

grump - I fully concur -no more BMW's, no more cheap booze, but by then we will never see anyone anyway to complain about. If Z4 was to read a bit more & rant a bit less he would be better off for it.
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Postby Z4 » Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:53 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
Z4 wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Z4 wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Z4 wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Z4 wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Z4 wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
FragnaticDeath wrote:If you want to destroy your health go ahead but destroying others people health around you without themselves wanting it to is wrong.

If cigarette smoking was so bad they’d all be dropping like flies! :lol:


Tell me one good thing about it

Smokers enjoy it...

...and you benefit from huge tax revenues...

Sorry, that is two things.


I am not a smoker so please, again, tell me what is good about it?

Why are you ONLY trying to please NON SMOKERS? Doesn't that slightly contradict what you said earlier? :roll:

Also, please find me a chart or something which outlines the cost of society of smoking (smoking related diseases) vs tax benefits.


Which part of the huge tax revenues did you miss...?

Where am I only trying to please non-smokers? :? I don't smoke but don't believe in this undemocratic ban... because it will lead to others...


Smokers enjoy it....................well I am not a smoker. So please tell me why it is good ? (for smokers and non smokers)


[quote="Cyprusgrump"
How about freedom of choice?


My choice is that I wish to lead a healthy life


And you are happy that others lose their freedom of choice to please you?

Even if as a result you will give up other freedoms?


Yes.


Good!

Because when you can't eat what you want, drink what you want or travel where you want (that nasty polluting car will have to go) you'll at least be able to say that you don't have to share the pub with smokers!

Oh, except there won't be any pubs...


There will always be pubs/restaurants! :roll:
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Postby cyprusgrump » Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:53 pm

Toffee wrote:grump - I fully concur -no more BMW's, no more cheap booze, but by then we will never see anyone anyway to complain about. If Z4 was to read a bit more & rant a bit less he would be better off for it.


I know, there are none so blind as those who will not see... :roll:

He won't even read the Velvet Glove Iron Fist link I posted I expect...

Last time we 'discussed' this here he claimed that one inhalation of second-hand smoke was health damaging. Despite being unable to prove any medical evidence he still believes the scare stores in the MSM...
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Postby Z4 » Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:55 pm

Get Real! wrote:Alcohol consumption is the primary culprit of road fatalities yet nobody seems to want to ban it! :roll:


That's an entirely different subject
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