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Postby cyprusgrump » Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:39 pm

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FragnaticDeath wrote:Smoking ban is outrageous? Not really.

If you want to destroy your health go ahead but destroying others people health around you without themselves wanting it to is wrong.

You wanna smoke take it outside. Plain and simple


Too bloody right. I don't smoke and don't want to breathe other peoples either.


So, because you don't like it you think banning smoking pretty much everywhere is fair do you?

No choice, no options, no chance to have a smoking section and a non-smoking section, no choice for the landlord to have a smoking pub which you could avoid?

Seems fair.

As I said on this subject before, when they start restricting where you can drink you might not think that blanket bans that nobody voted for are quite so reasonable. :wink:


At the end of the day smoking is bad for you and there is nothing good about it, is there?


But according to the government, so is drinking... and eating fatty foods, too much salt, etc.

There may not be anything good about it that you can see but smokers enjoy it.

In a democratic society I think it is reasonable that smokers should be able to enjoy their legal habit, don't you? If it didn't affect you at all...?

Pubs are closing at an unprecedented rate due to the smoking ban. Due to the fact that the people that complained they can't go to the pub because of the smoke still don't go...

A reasonable thing to do would have been to give choice. They haven't and there won't be any choice when they ban other things you like next...

Surely you can see that?

Christus, they even want to stop smokers smoking in open spaces and in their own homes now... :lol:

And do you know the worst thing? These 'charities' like ASH that want to ban smoking, drinking, fatty foods and gawd knows what else are all funded by the government - out of your taxes!

So, when they clamp down on your drinking with more draconian laws you will have paid to bring it about....


If I have a greasy burger or a pint of strong beer in public it doesn't cause any harm to the person sitting next to me does it. The person won't go away stinking of burgers or beer either!


But they still want to stop you drinking that pint of beer in public!

In fact, there are already blanket bans in many parts of the UK where you can't have a glass of wine or a beer outside...
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Postby FragnaticDeath » Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:39 pm

Your best solution is electronic cigarettes. Have fun! :)
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Postby cyprusgrump » Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:43 pm

FragnaticDeath wrote:Why is cigarette smoking bad for me?

Everyone knows that smoking can cause cancer when you get older, but did you know that it also has bad effects on your body right now? A cigarette contains about 4000 chemicals, many of which are poisonous. Some of the worst ones are:

* Nicotine: a deadly poison
* Arsenic: used in rat poison
* Methane: a component of rocket fuel
* Ammonia: found in floor cleaner
* Cadmium: used in batteries
* Carbon Monoxide: part of car exhaust
* Formaldehyde: used to preserve body tissue
* Butane: lighter fluid
* Hydrogen Cyanide: the poison used in gas chambers

Every time you inhale smoke from a cigarette, small amounts of these chemicals get into your blood through your lungs. They travel to all the parts of your body and cause harm.

I don't think a passive smoker would like to have this poisons in his body when he is trying to stay healthy as possible.

And cyprusgrumpy did anyone ever force you to drink alcohol without you wanting it? Think not


No.

But now the choice to go in a smoky pub with my mates has been taken away from me too...

And pubs are closing because non-smokers, the people that complained so vociferously about smoking in pubs, aren't using them either...

As I've said, people that are so keen on smokers having their rights taken away won't think it so great when it happens to them...
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Postby FragnaticDeath » Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:44 pm

And drinking outside should be illegal also. Theres children!

I dont get why you people have such big egos instead of looking at the big picture. You only care about yourselves.

Would you like your children to watch drunk people in the streets?

Then why is walking nude illegal also? Is it affecting anyone?

Its all about what image you give to the innocent.
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Postby FragnaticDeath » Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:45 pm

Health always comes first
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Postby paliometoxo » Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:48 pm

in the north aparantly the ban has been in place for years
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Postby cyprusgrump » Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:54 pm

FragnaticDeath wrote:And drinking outside should be illegal also. Theres children!

I dont get why you people have such big egos instead of looking at the big picture. You only care about yourselves.

Would you like your children to watch drunk people in the streets?

Then why is walking nude illegal also? Is it affecting anyone?

Its all about what image you give to the innocent.

Ah the children... :roll:

They shouldn't be allowed to see their parents for instance enjoying a glass of wine with their souvla?
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Postby Z4 » Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:01 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
FragnaticDeath wrote:Why is cigarette smoking bad for me?

Everyone knows that smoking can cause cancer when you get older, but did you know that it also has bad effects on your body right now? A cigarette contains about 4000 chemicals, many of which are poisonous. Some of the worst ones are:

* Nicotine: a deadly poison
* Arsenic: used in rat poison
* Methane: a component of rocket fuel
* Ammonia: found in floor cleaner
* Cadmium: used in batteries
* Carbon Monoxide: part of car exhaust
* Formaldehyde: used to preserve body tissue
* Butane: lighter fluid
* Hydrogen Cyanide: the poison used in gas chambers

Every time you inhale smoke from a cigarette, small amounts of these chemicals get into your blood through your lungs. They travel to all the parts of your body and cause harm.

I don't think a passive smoker would like to have this poisons in his body when he is trying to stay healthy as possible.

And cyprusgrumpy did anyone ever force you to drink alcohol without you wanting it? Think not


And pubs are closing because non-smokers, the people that complained so vociferously about smoking in pubs, aren't using them either...


Because supermarkets flog cheaper booze
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Postby cyprusgrump » Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:04 pm

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FragnaticDeath wrote:Why is cigarette smoking bad for me?

Everyone knows that smoking can cause cancer when you get older, but did you know that it also has bad effects on your body right now? A cigarette contains about 4000 chemicals, many of which are poisonous. Some of the worst ones are:

* Nicotine: a deadly poison
* Arsenic: used in rat poison
* Methane: a component of rocket fuel
* Ammonia: found in floor cleaner
* Cadmium: used in batteries
* Carbon Monoxide: part of car exhaust
* Formaldehyde: used to preserve body tissue
* Butane: lighter fluid
* Hydrogen Cyanide: the poison used in gas chambers

Every time you inhale smoke from a cigarette, small amounts of these chemicals get into your blood through your lungs. They travel to all the parts of your body and cause harm.

I don't think a passive smoker would like to have this poisons in his body when he is trying to stay healthy as possible.

And cyprusgrumpy did anyone ever force you to drink alcohol without you wanting it? Think not


And pubs are closing because non-smokers, the people that complained so vociferously about smoking in pubs, aren't using them either...


Because supermarkets flog cheaper booze


Wrong! :lol:

Supermarkets have always offered cheap booze...

But pubs have only been closing at ~50 per week since the smoking ban...

OK?
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Postby Z4 » Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:07 pm

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FragnaticDeath wrote:Why is cigarette smoking bad for me?

Everyone knows that smoking can cause cancer when you get older, but did you know that it also has bad effects on your body right now? A cigarette contains about 4000 chemicals, many of which are poisonous. Some of the worst ones are:

* Nicotine: a deadly poison
* Arsenic: used in rat poison
* Methane: a component of rocket fuel
* Ammonia: found in floor cleaner
* Cadmium: used in batteries
* Carbon Monoxide: part of car exhaust
* Formaldehyde: used to preserve body tissue
* Butane: lighter fluid
* Hydrogen Cyanide: the poison used in gas chambers

Every time you inhale smoke from a cigarette, small amounts of these chemicals get into your blood through your lungs. They travel to all the parts of your body and cause harm.

I don't think a passive smoker would like to have this poisons in his body when he is trying to stay healthy as possible.

And cyprusgrumpy did anyone ever force you to drink alcohol without you wanting it? Think not


And pubs are closing because non-smokers, the people that complained so vociferously about smoking in pubs, aren't using them either...


Because supermarkets flog cheaper booze


Wrong! :lol:

Supermarkets have always offered cheap booze...

But pubs have only been closing at ~50 per week since the smoking ban...

OK?


Wrong, pubs are NOW charging way too much for drink. A small glass of wine in a pub is the same price as a bottle of wine in a supermarket.

Supermarket 'offers' are much more appealing now so people stay at home because it's cheaper.

Ok?
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