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Postby Z4 » Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:01 pm

FragnaticDeath wrote:Smoking ban is outrageous? Not really.

If you want to destroy your health go ahead but destroying others people health around you without themselves wanting it to is wrong.

You wanna smoke take it outside. Plain and simple


Too bloody right. I don't smoke and don't want to breathe other peoples either.
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Postby cyprusgrump » Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:04 pm

Z4 wrote:
FragnaticDeath wrote:Smoking ban is outrageous? Not really.

If you want to destroy your health go ahead but destroying others people health around you without themselves wanting it to is wrong.

You wanna smoke take it outside. Plain and simple


Too bloody right. I don't smoke and don't want to breathe other peoples either.


So, because you don't like it you think banning smoking pretty much everywhere is fair do you?

No choice, no options, no chance to have a smoking section and a non-smoking section, no choice for the landlord to have a smoking pub which you could avoid?

Seems fair.

As I said on this subject before, when they start restricting where you can drink you might not think that blanket bans that nobody voted for are quite so reasonable. :wink:
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Postby Z4 » Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:07 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
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FragnaticDeath wrote:Smoking ban is outrageous? Not really.

If you want to destroy your health go ahead but destroying others people health around you without themselves wanting it to is wrong.

You wanna smoke take it outside. Plain and simple


Too bloody right. I don't smoke and don't want to breathe other peoples either.


So, because you don't like it you think banning smoking pretty much everywhere is fair do you?

No choice, no options, no chance to have a smoking section and a non-smoking section, no choice for the landlord to have a smoking pub which you could avoid?

Seems fair.

As I said on this subject before, when they start restricting where you can drink you might not think that blanket bans that nobody voted for are quite so reasonable. :wink:


At the end of the day smoking is bad for you and there is nothing good about it, is there?
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Postby FragnaticDeath » Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:13 pm

haha the good thing about is that the Clubs in Nicosia will be more spacious. The smokers who usually stand with a cigarette in their hand and on the other their drink will move outside for smoking, and let those active non-smokers dance with pleasure.

The bad thing the clubs will stink of sweat
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Postby Z4 » Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:15 pm

FragnaticDeath wrote:haha the good thing about is that the Clubs in Nicosia will be more spacious. The smokers who usually stand with a cigarette in their hand and on the other their drink will move outside for smoking, and let those active non-smokers dance with pleasure.

The bad thing the clubs will stink of sweat


Like the clubs over here!

In time though things do start smelling ok again :wink:
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Postby cyprusgrump » Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:15 pm

Z4 wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Z4 wrote:
FragnaticDeath wrote:Smoking ban is outrageous? Not really.

If you want to destroy your health go ahead but destroying others people health around you without themselves wanting it to is wrong.

You wanna smoke take it outside. Plain and simple


Too bloody right. I don't smoke and don't want to breathe other peoples either.


So, because you don't like it you think banning smoking pretty much everywhere is fair do you?

No choice, no options, no chance to have a smoking section and a non-smoking section, no choice for the landlord to have a smoking pub which you could avoid?

Seems fair.

As I said on this subject before, when they start restricting where you can drink you might not think that blanket bans that nobody voted for are quite so reasonable. :wink:


At the end of the day smoking is bad for you and there is nothing good about it, is there?


But according to the government, so is drinking... and eating fatty foods, too much salt, etc.

There may not be anything good about it that you can see but smokers enjoy it.

In a democratic society I think it is reasonable that smokers should be able to enjoy their legal habit, don't you? If it didn't affect you at all...?

Pubs are closing at an unprecedented rate due to the smoking ban. Due to the fact that the people that complained they can't go to the pub because of the smoke still don't go...

A reasonable thing to do would have been to give choice. They haven't and there won't be any choice when they ban other things you like next...

Surely you can see that?

Christus, they even want to stop smokers smoking in open spaces and in their own homes now... :lol:

And do you know the worst thing? These 'charities' like ASH that want to ban smoking, drinking, fatty foods and gawd knows what else are all funded by the government - out of your taxes!

So, when they clamp down on your drinking with more draconian laws you will have paid to bring it about....
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Postby Z4 » Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:18 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
Z4 wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Z4 wrote:
FragnaticDeath wrote:Smoking ban is outrageous? Not really.

If you want to destroy your health go ahead but destroying others people health around you without themselves wanting it to is wrong.

You wanna smoke take it outside. Plain and simple


Too bloody right. I don't smoke and don't want to breathe other peoples either.


So, because you don't like it you think banning smoking pretty much everywhere is fair do you?

No choice, no options, no chance to have a smoking section and a non-smoking section, no choice for the landlord to have a smoking pub which you could avoid?

Seems fair.

As I said on this subject before, when they start restricting where you can drink you might not think that blanket bans that nobody voted for are quite so reasonable. :wink:


At the end of the day smoking is bad for you and there is nothing good about it, is there?


But according to the government, so is drinking... and eating fatty foods, too much salt, etc.

There may not be anything good about it that you can see but smokers enjoy it.

In a democratic society I think it is reasonable that smokers should be able to enjoy their legal habit, don't you? If it didn't affect you at all...?

Pubs are closing at an unprecedented rate due to the smoking ban. Due to the fact that the people that complained they can't go to the pub because of the smoke still don't go...

A reasonable thing to do would have been to give choice. They haven't and there won't be any choice when they ban other things you like next...

Surely you can see that?

Christus, they even want to stop smokers smoking in open spaces and in their own homes now... :lol:

And do you know the worst thing? These 'charities' like ASH that want to ban smoking, drinking, fatty foods and gawd knows what else are all funded by the government - out of your taxes!

So, when they clamp down on your drinking with more draconian laws you will have paid to bring it about....


If I have a greasy burger or a pint of strong beer in public it doesn't cause any harm to the person sitting next to me does it. The person won't go away stinking of burgers or beer either!
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Postby Z4 » Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:19 pm

Re: ASH. I have not heard of the policies they believe in so can't comment.
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Postby FragnaticDeath » Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:36 pm

Why is cigarette smoking bad for me?

Everyone knows that smoking can cause cancer when you get older, but did you know that it also has bad effects on your body right now? A cigarette contains about 4000 chemicals, many of which are poisonous. Some of the worst ones are:

* Nicotine: a deadly poison
* Arsenic: used in rat poison
* Methane: a component of rocket fuel
* Ammonia: found in floor cleaner
* Cadmium: used in batteries
* Carbon Monoxide: part of car exhaust
* Formaldehyde: used to preserve body tissue
* Butane: lighter fluid
* Hydrogen Cyanide: the poison used in gas chambers

Every time you inhale smoke from a cigarette, small amounts of these chemicals get into your blood through your lungs. They travel to all the parts of your body and cause harm.

I don't think a passive smoker would like to have this poisons in his body when he is trying to stay healthy as possible.

And cyprusgrumpy did anyone ever force you to drink alcohol without you wanting it? Think not
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Postby cyprusgrump » Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:37 pm

Z4 wrote:Re: ASH. I have not heard of the policies they believe in so can't comment.


You really haven't heard of these guys?

Almost 100% funded by the British taxpayer! :lol:
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