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[Acikgoz]

I hear the argument time and again of full democracy being the goal that Cyprus should aspire towards. How flawed is that?

Is the UN Security Council a democratic body?

Is the EU a democratic body?

Are the courts a democratic body?

Obviously the primary instruments that bring weight to bear upon our lives are in no way able to be catagorised as democratic.

Our GC partners that postulate the virtues of democracy continue to utilise their powers in the non-democratic body of the EU.

The EU can quite easily be viewed as a macrocosm for a United Cyprus. The EU has various agreed laws, methods, but fundamental aspects can be vetoed and each nation state within its own affairs can act independently.

Given EU countries that generally share the same religion, seek to preserve their own independence in a larger body, the idiotic notion of full democracy in a United Cyprus is most redundant. TCs are not as dumb as you would like to believe.

You all love the sound bites but can't stomach the real thing. Did Christofias ask the EU to vote on treatening Turkey that it will not open various chapters or did they simply threaten to use a right in the EU constitution, which underlies the EU's non-democratic method of governance?

Non-democratic! No question, simple, clear, unarguable.

For all those haters out there - if you are going to talk the talk, walk the walk.

[zan]

Bravo!

[Get Real!]

I hear the argument time and again of full democracy being the goal that Cyprus should aspire towards.

Where do you hear that... at the local Turkish coffee shop? Cyprus is already as democratic as they get.

[Oracle]

I hear the argument time and again of full democracy being the goal that Cyprus should aspire towards.

Where do you hear that... at the local Turkish coffee shop? Cyprus is already as democratic as they get.

... in Finsbury Park!

[insan]

I hear the argument time and again of full democracy being the goal that Cyprus should aspire towards. How flawed is that?

Is the UN Security Council a democratic body?

Is the EU a democratic body?

Are the courts a democratic body?

Obviously the primary instruments that bring weight to bear upon our lives are in no way able to be catagorised as democratic.

Our GC partners that postulate the virtues of democracy continue to utilise their powers in the non-democratic body of the EU.

The EU can quite easily be viewed as a macrocosm for a United Cyprus. The EU has various agreed laws, methods, but fundamental aspects can be vetoed and each nation state within its own affairs can act independently.

Given EU countries that generally share the same religion, seek to preserve their own independence in a larger body, the idiotic notion of full democracy in a United Cyprus is most redundant. TCs are not as dumb as you would like to believe.

You all love the sound bites but can't stomach the real thing. Did Christofias ask the EU to vote on treatening Turkey that it will not open various chapters or did they simply threaten to use a right in the EU constitution, which underlies the EU's non-democratic method of governance?

Non-democratic! No question, simple, clear, unarguable.

For all those haters out there - if you are going to talk the talk, walk the walk.

There's something called consociational democracy that GCs don't like to hear abt it bcs it supposedly failed in 60s. Actually, GCs wished it to be failed bcz they were/are brainwashed with "majority rule"...

The democratic system of EU was based on consociational democracy and if ever Cyprus would reunite, the democratic system of united Cyprus should be based on consociationalism...

However I'm sure Cyprus will never be united...

[Expatkiwi]

The EU is more of a confederation than a federal union. As such, things are bound to be markedly different in each member state.

[Piratis]

The examples that you gave are not countries. Did you notice that part Acikgoz?

The examples that you gave are associations of separate and independent countries, and not countries themselves.

[Oracle]

TCs are not as dumb as you would like to believe.

Would you expand on this bombshell?

[denizaksulu]

I hear the argument time and again of full democracy being the goal that Cyprus should aspire towards.

Where do you hear that... at the local Turkish coffee shop? Cyprus is already as democratic as they get.

... in Finsbury Park!

Fisbury Park is Greek.

You mean Green Lanes

[Oracle]

I hear the argument time and again of full democracy being the goal that Cyprus should aspire towards.

Where do you hear that... at the local Turkish coffee shop? Cyprus is already as democratic as they get.

... in Finsbury Park!

Fisbury Park is Greek.

You mean Green Lanes

Sorry, I've been away too long ....