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[Expatkiwi]

I don't think you can call teenager hooligans carrying Nazi paraphernalia as being representative of the entire Cypriot race!

No, I can't. You have me there, but should I judge all Cypriots on account of what I read here in the forum?

[Paphitis]

Our society is one of the most xenophobic and racist in the European Union. This has been shown by scientific measurements, such as the eurobarometre. One example: We still refer to the house helpers as our "mavroues" and most their employers are guilty of various types of abuse against them.

The nasty word "tourkosporos" is frequently used, even amongst young people and I would like to remind you that it was directed at me in this forum by one of our more learned forumers. At the time, none of the bash patriots complained, an indication that they endorsed the term. Of course I did not burst into tears, because people that behave like this are the ones that we should pity.

Boomerang, let me explain to you that the real teachers in Cyprus are found in the occupied areas. In a way, we are the pseudoteachers. The TC teachers, in their vast majority, are extremely progressive and their union led the struggle against Denktash in 2003. They are quite a remarkable group of people who have the good of Cyprus in their heart. I feel privileged to know them.

I don't think Cyprus is anymore racist than countries I have got to know, such as Australia, USA, Canada and many more.

The fact that someone from this forum called you a 'tourkosporo' is neither here nor there as this forum is not representative of the general attitudes in Cypriot society.

As to our youth, we have some out there who are very vocal. Some have carried Turkish Flags at soccer games, others have displayed racist, fascist and even nazi symbols. But the fact of the matter is, most GCs today are very placid, polite and butter could not melt in their mouths. The majority are progressive individuals and hold no malice to any TCs. And as to the older generation who may have some racist ideas against 'mavroues', well it is only a matter of time before these ideals disappear altogether.

Bananiot is limited in his recollections. The Brits for example still refer to the French as "Frogs" and it was some 1000 years ago since they were last invaded by them. They call the Spanish "Dagoes" and it's now some 500 years since the Spanish Armada ... If we had disparaging names for our enemies, it would be regarded as nothing more than what everybody else would do ... without even taking into consideration the present occupation of nearly half our country!

The racism experienced by the early migrants to Australia leaves Cypriot racists for dead. I am happy to say, that things have dramatically changed since then, for the better.

[Bananiot]

When the crazy woman of the forum wants to insult anyone, the first word that comes into her mouth is "turk". She has a cheek to lecture us on namecalling and the "innocent" way these terms are used in England or France.

[Expatkiwi]

When the crazy woman of the forum wants to insult anyone, the first word that comes into her mouth is "turk". She has a cheek to lecture us on namecalling and the "innocent" way these terms are used in England or France.

Oracle does tend to view us rather negatively and reacts to our posts in a very narrow-minded pre-judgemental manner. She is honest, and believes what she says, but is rather quick to jump to conclusions. It is a dissapointing trait from an otherwise intelligent woman.

[BirKibrisli]

When the crazy woman of the forum wants to insult anyone, the first word that comes into her mouth is "turk". She has a cheek to lecture us on namecalling and the "innocent" way these terms are used in England or France.

Oracle does tend to view us rather negatively and reacts to our posts in a very narrow-minded pre-judgemental manner. She is honest, and believes what she says, but is rather quick to jump to conclusions. It is a dissapointing trait from an otherwise intelligent woman.

Those of us who lived through the worst of the Cyprus catastrophy,as a child,and I believe Oracle lived through the 74 events,are suffering from PTSD (post traumatic stress disorder) to one degree or another, Expat...
Keep that in mind when judging us...

[Oracle]

When the crazy woman of the forum wants to insult anyone, the first word that comes into her mouth is "turk". She has a cheek to lecture us on namecalling and the "innocent" way these terms are used in England or France.

So who are your trying to insult by calling me "crazy"? Me or mental patients? I take it you mean me as it would be unfair to all those mental patients who have no choice. So, when someone calls another "Turk" why isn't the insult intended for that person, specifically? Do you believe all Turks have no choice in their negative behaviour?

But let's see who these "innocents" of England are that call the French, Spanish, Scots, Jews, Pakis derogatory names. They are the people who are oblivious to the fact none of these people have attacked their country, killing thousands and racially segregating their country, at least for thousands of years. Are they "innocent" to still feel the need to call French people "Frogs" after thousands of years of no threat?

And you as a "biologist", do you not describe behavioural traits in groups of animals; docile, aggressive etc. The problem does not lie in classification but whether there are erroneous reasons for classifying in a particular way.

So, you say the Brits are "innocent" when they name-call; and yet the GCs who contend with the present occupiers of nearly half of Cyprus, gained by the slaughter and ethnic cleansing of hundreds of thousands of, specifically, Greek Cypriots, recolonised by hundreds of thousands of settlers from Turkey and militarised by tens of thousands of Turkish troops ordered by Generals in Turkey and no doubt supported by millions of Turks in Turkey and worldwide, are "guilty" of racism?

What have the French or the Spanish done to the Brits recently, that they can still call them derogatory names but you label them as "innocent"; and yet any GC using the same principle, but with ample reason, is labeled by you as the most racist in Europe?

[Bananiot]

Me as a "biologist" says that you should feel gratefull that sane people actually spend time talking to you in this forum.

[Oracle]

Me as a "biologist" says that you should feel gratefull that sane people actually spend time talking to you in this forum.

It would make my life easier if they (sane or insane) didn't.

Just let me 'post and go' ....

[Expatkiwi]

Those of us who lived through the worst of the Cyprus catastrophy,as a child,and I believe Oracle lived through the 74 events,are suffering from PTSD (post traumatic stress disorder) to one degree or another, Expat...
Keep that in mind when judging us...

That would explain a lot.

[Oracle]

When the crazy woman of the forum wants to insult anyone, the first word that comes into her mouth is "turk". She has a cheek to lecture us on namecalling and the "innocent" way these terms are used in England or France.

Oracle does tend to view us rather negatively and reacts to our posts in a very narrow-minded pre-judgemental manner. She is honest, and believes what she says, but is rather quick to jump to conclusions. It is a dissapointing trait from an otherwise intelligent woman.

Those of us who lived through the worst of the Cyprus catastrophy,as a child,and I believe Oracle lived through the 74 events,are suffering from PTSD (post traumatic stress disorder) to one degree or another, Expat...
Keep that in mind when judging us...

Speak for yourself.