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[BirKibrisli]

... Tell me one thing the TCs could have done differently in the past (say from 50s onwards) that would've avoided the present catastrophy.....

Integrate!

I said something realistic ,Oracle...
To integrate you need a liberal society which will accept you as equals...We were considered little more than pests who stood in the way of Enosis with Greece by the great majority of GCs back then...When and how could we integrate???

Seems like you need too much BirKibrisli. How abnormal do you think the TCs are?

Integration is about proving you are capable of fitting in as an equal amongst the well-established indigenous population.

Perhaps some innate superiority prevented the TCs from integrating? Certainly that is what we witness today ... and some things never change.

Or, are you saying today's Cyprus is also "illiberal" that despite a few hundred thousand other nationalities now living and working in Cyrus as equals, the TCs are so super-special they prefer segregation?

Stop pretending you are thick.,Oracle...You are many things but thick you ain't...I am talking about the late 40s onwards,when the GCs were trying their best to unite Cyprus with a foreign power...Have you heard of ENOSIS??? Do you think those heady days of the EOKA and the civil war which followed(63-74) were conductive to TC integration??? Which society were the TCs supposed to interate with??? The one trying to unite with Greece? The one that was opposing it and being murdered by the EOKA???The one which ignored our very existence and seemed happy to let the TCs perish in our little rat hole enclaves??? Please try to engage your brain before opening your mouth...You are not helping things here...Nobody would want to integrate with the mindset you represent NOW,let alone with the one back THEN...

Yes.

Integrate.

It means integrating with the majority of the island ... whatever their flavour!

Or, are you trying to be thick!

What do you expect us to do? become Turks so that you are happy to "integrate" with us? We are what we are. If you wanted harmony, you should have integrated or left! Perfectly acceptable everywhere else.

Fine,pretend to be thick,and see where it will get you...No skin off my back...

And no one can accuse you, now, of being "thick" since you didn't even try to answer the above; knowing it would expose your taciturn racist segregationist agenda.

I am not a massachist,Oracle...I don't like hitting my head against brick walls....

[Oracle]

So, there we have it!

Integration is not a "realistic" option, according to BirKibrisli.

Your nomadic mentality does not fit into our European present and therefore you should go and live amongst those with whom you can integrate ......

You shall not impose apartheid amongst us!

Like the natives of South Africa, we shall be liberated from the Colonialist enslavers who want to rule us and occupy our land!

[DT.]

DT, selectively permeable is the term used nowadays for cell membranes.

P.S. Have you seen Tornaritis's declaration on the march of the fascists today. I must say, NEDISI's declaration was also brilliant. At least I hope you agree with them on this one and refrain from finding excuses for them.

Actually didn't see anything on this today, been out for most of the day. WHat happened? Any troubles?

[Bananiot]

I went to the anti racism march. It started from Eleftheria Square at 16:00 and it was very well attended. The main slogan was "the Nazis out of Cyprus, not the foreign workers". It will probably be in the news tonight.

I need to repeat this. NEDISI's position on the ELAM march was more than brilliant. It went along Michael Howard's (Former Conservative leader) line, who accused all the mainstream parties of failing to do enough to challenge the British National Party. His own party was not spared.

[Mikiko]

There have been two crowds one against immigrants the fascist and the other suporting according to news. -if the immigrants are getting their jobs means they are more skilful than them .no employer will get someone who begs for a job with not working to get more skills and put his business at risk

[Expatkiwi]

There have been two crowds one against immigrants the fascist and the other suporting according to news. -if the immigrants are getting their jobs means they are more skilful than them .no employer will get someone who begs for a job with not working to get more skills and put his business at risk

That's the same in countries that have migrant populations. NZers are annoyed by Pacific Islanders who take jobs, and Americans feel the same way about Mexican migrants.

[BirKibrisli]

So, there we have it!

Integration is not a "realistic" option, according to BirKibrisli.

Your nomadic mentality does not fit into our European present and therefore you should go and live amongst those with whom you can integrate ......

You shall not impose apartheid amongst us!

Like the natives of South Africa, we shall be liberated from the Colonialist enslavers who want to rule us and occupy our land!

so you insist on playing the thicko!!! good luck to you...

The time to integrate was back in the 50s and 60s...But the GCs was not interested in integration then..They wanted to/they were on a treacherous course , present Cyprus to Greece on a plate...The rest is history...And given that history integration now is an impossible dream...Keep on dreaming Oracle....There is no law against it...I will indeed take my place with my community,and fight with all my ability to resist the efforts to assimilate the TCs within the Turkish society and culture...We deserve to maintain our unique identity as TCs,and we will do it despite all the GC efforts now and in the past to prevent us from being who we are ....

[Get Real!]

We deserve to maintain our unique identity as TCs,and we will do it despite all the GC efforts now and in the past to prevent us from being who we are ....

What exactly is this “unique identity” you’re on about?

If I take the common Turkish Cypriot traits like…

1. Illegally selling GC properties.

2. Providing a safe haven to foreign criminal fugitives.

3. Importing illegal immigrants thereby altering the Cyprus demographics.

4. Looting priceless ancient artifacts and desecrating churches.

5. Blackmailing for ridiculous undemocratic political arrangements.

…in my eyes, most of you Turkish Cypriots are just a bunch of uneducated and dishonest jerks, so what do you know that we don’t?

Enlighten us about this “unique identity” you brag…

[BirKibrisli]

We deserve to maintain our unique identity as TCs,and we will do it despite all the GC efforts now and in the past to prevent us from being who we are ....

What exactly is this “unique identity” you’re on about?

If I take the common Turkish Cypriot traits like…

1. Illegally selling GC properties.

2. Providing a safe haven to foreign criminal fugitives.

3. Importing illegal immigrants thereby altering the Cyprus demographics.

4. Looting priceless ancient artifacts and desecrating churches.

5. Blackmailing for ridiculous undemocratic political arrangements.

…in my eyes, most of you Turkish Cypriots are just a bunch of uneducated and dishonest jerks, so what do you know that we don’t?

Enlighten us about this “unique identity” you brag…

Spare us your political,blinkered,prejudiced opinions,GR!
If most of us are the uneducated and dishonest jerks that you say we are,then you should thank Turkey every day for sparing you the agony of living with us...You want to know what a TC really is...???Look in the mirror!!! Then close your heart to prejudice and bigotry,and open your heart to empathy and compassion...Then you will be looking at a unique TC...

[halil]

So, there we have it!

Integration is not a "realistic" option, according to BirKibrisli.

Your nomadic mentality does not fit into our European present and therefore you should go and live amongst those with whom you can integrate ......

You shall not impose apartheid amongst us!

Like the natives of South Africa, we shall be liberated from the Colonialist enslavers who want to rule us and occupy our land!

so you insist on playing the thicko!!! good luck to you...

The time to integrate was back in the 50s and 60s...But the GCs was not interested in integration then..They wanted to/they were on a treacherous course , present Cyprus to Greece on a plate...The rest is history...And given that history integration now is an impossible dream...Keep on dreaming Oracle....There is no law against it...I will indeed take my place with my community,and fight with all my ability to resist the efforts to assimilate the TCs within the Turkish society and culture...We deserve to maintain our unique identity as TCs,and we will do it despite all the GC efforts now and in the past to prevent us from being who we are ....

I am with u on this one Dear Birkibrisli gardash.....also İ can add I will fight with all my ability to resist the efforts to assimilate the TC's with in the Greek and GC's sociaty and culture .I will protect my TC's culture and Identity from all.