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How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby wyoming cowboy » Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:05 am

I agree with Oracle!!!!!!!
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Postby Expatkiwi » Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:24 am

Paphitis wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:Oracle, there were GC extremists who targeted Turkish Cypriots. Surely you don't condone that...


I think you are getting confused again.....

Expat, you need to do some more research! :?

Even your mate DonkTosh has a better grasp of the facts than you do!


Then can you explain the house in North Nicosia known as "The Museum of Barbarism"?
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Postby boomerang » Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:38 am

Expatkiwi wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:Oracle, there were GC extremists who targeted Turkish Cypriots. Surely you don't condone that...


I think you are getting confused again.....

Expat, you need to do some more research! :?

Even your mate DonkTosh has a better grasp of the facts than you do!


Then can you explain the house in North Nicosia known as "The Museum of Barbarism"?


ok expat put the eyewitness testiment up for review and we will see the lies...

along with the pictures...you need to learn when you talk the talk you need to walk the walk...are you up to it expat?... :?

lets see your knowledge...
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Postby Paphitis » Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:47 am

Expatkiwi wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:Oracle, there were GC extremists who targeted Turkish Cypriots. Surely you don't condone that...


I think you are getting confused again.....

Expat, you need to do some more research! :?

Even your mate DonkTosh has a better grasp of the facts than you do!


Then can you explain the house in North Nicosia known as "The Museum of Barbarism"?


Are you talking about the 2 GC babies in the bathtub? :roll:

Listen here mate, no one is denying that there were victims on both sides, but you need to look back and objectively look at who instigated and who started the inter-communal violence in the first place, and then ask yourself WHY!

It seems that DonkTosh is not good enough for you now, just because he himself even refutes your propaganda.
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Postby Sotos » Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:50 am

The whole occupied Cyprus and Turkey is a Museum of Barbarism. It is filled with barbarian aggressors who know nothing else than invading other people's land, killing, destroying and turning into a 3rd World shit hole the civilized lands they occupy! If it wasn't for these barbarians then Cyprus would be a peaceful democratic Christian European island with no Turks and therefore no problems!
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Postby Expatkiwi » Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:50 am

boomerang wrote:ok expat put the eyewitness testiment up for review and we will see the lies...

along with the pictures...you need to learn when you talk the talk you need to walk the walk...are you up to it expat?... :?

lets see your knowledge...


All right, Boomerang. Here is what I found with a quick internet search. This is what LONELY PLANET has to say on the subject:
lonely planet wrote:While the Turkish Cypriots may have taken down the gruesome posters and photographs that used to greet arrivals at the Ledra Palace Hotel crossing, they have not forgotten the atrocities committed by Greek Cypriots and in particular EOKA thugs against the Turkish Cypriot community. The Museum of Barbarism is in a quiet suburb to the west of the Old City and takes a bit of seeking out.

On 24 December 1963, a mother and her children, along with a neighbour, were shot dead in their bath by EOKA gunmen. The bloodstained bath is retained as one of the exhibits in this rather macabre museum. There are other photo-documentary displays, particularly of Turkish Cypriots murdered in the villages of Agios Sozomenos and Agios Vasilios.


Cypnet had this to say:
Cypnet wrote:This is the house if Dr. Ilhat Ilhan, a major who was serving in the Cyprus Turkish contingent in 1963. During the intercommunal struggles of December that year, the house was attacked by the Greek Cypriot terrorists. Dr. Ilhan's wife and three children were ruthlessly murdered in the bathroom where they tried to hide. The house, in the Kumsal district of Nicosia has been presevered as a museum.


These references included pictures of the slain mother and children.
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Postby Expatkiwi » Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:53 am

Paphitis wrote:Are you talking about the 2 GC babies in the bathtub? :roll:

Listen here mate, no one is denying that there were victims on both sides, but you need to look back and objectively look at who instigated and who started the inter-communal violence in the first place, and then ask yourself WHY!

It seems that DonkTosh is not good enough for you now, just because he himself even refutes your propaganda.


Are you saying that the museum is a set up? Looking at the pictures gives it an impression of actuality.
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Postby Expatkiwi » Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:55 am

Sotos wrote:The whole occupied Cyprus and Turkey is a Museum of Barbarism. It is filled with barbarian aggressors who know nothing else than invading other people's land, killing, destroying and turning into a 3rd World shit hole the civilized lands they occupy! If it wasn't for these barbarians then Cyprus would be a peaceful democratic Christian European island with no Turks and therefore no problems!


Sotos, Please! I'm trying to get to the truth here! You and so many others are deriding me for not seeing the truth. So when I see a reference to a place where Turkish Cypriot civilians were murdered by Greek Cypriot paramilataries, what am I supposed to think?
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Postby Paphitis » Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:55 am

Expatkiwi wrote:
boomerang wrote:ok expat put the eyewitness testiment up for review and we will see the lies...

along with the pictures...you need to learn when you talk the talk you need to walk the walk...are you up to it expat?... :?

lets see your knowledge...


All right, Boomerang. Here is what I found with a quick internet search. This is what LONELY PLANET has to say on the subject:
lonely planet wrote:While the Turkish Cypriots may have taken down the gruesome posters and photographs that used to greet arrivals at the Ledra Palace Hotel crossing, they have not forgotten the atrocities committed by Greek Cypriots and in particular EOKA thugs against the Turkish Cypriot community. The Museum of Barbarism is in a quiet suburb to the west of the Old City and takes a bit of seeking out.

On 24 December 1963, a mother and her children, along with a neighbour, were shot dead in their bath by EOKA gunmen. The bloodstained bath is retained as one of the exhibits in this rather macabre museum. There are other photo-documentary displays, particularly of Turkish Cypriots murdered in the villages of Agios Sozomenos and Agios Vasilios.


Cypnet had this to say:
Cypnet wrote:This is the house if Dr. Ilhat Ilhan, a major who was serving in the Cyprus Turkish contingent in 1963. During the intercommunal struggles of December that year, the house was attacked by the Greek Cypriot terrorists. Dr. Ilhan's wife and three children were ruthlessly murdered in the bathroom where they tried to hide. The house, in the Kumsal district of Nicosia has been presevered as a museum.


These references included pictures of the slain mother and children.


Dr. Ilhan and his family were not even TC. Not that this makes any difference as to the pointless slaying.

Next idiot please....
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Postby Expatkiwi » Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:57 am

Paphitis wrote:Dr. Ilhan and his family were not even TC. Not that this makes any difference as to the pointless slaying.

Next idiot please....


And what of the claims regarding Turkish Cypriot civilians killed in the villages of Agios Sozomenos and Agios Vasilios?
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