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[denizaksulu]

Confirmed. Greek ladyboy stuff.
"I delight in the prime of a boy at 12," one scribe declares in a text highlighted on a wall. "One of 13 is much more desirable. He who is 14 is a still sweeter flower of the lovers. And one who is just beginning his 15th year is yet more delightful. The 16th year is that of the gods. And as for the 17th, it is not for me but for Zeus to seek it."

It is ignoramuses such as yourself which this Exhibition will seek to educate. That you immediately attach sordid status ("ladyboy stuff" + other comments) to the beauty of a young boy reaching the grace of adulthood is a prime indication of the sickness which you have manifested on a number of occasions.

You blame the Greeks for being advanced enough to distinguish these facets of love and lust in humanity, with art and culture, beyond even today's standards and at a time when cave-dwelling Celts were practicing untold rituals but did not have the developmental means (mental or cultural) to leave such a legacy behind so that we can have a record of all our past.

What a shame your are imprisoned in the occupied territory for fear of EU justice-seeking injunctions, otherwise I am sure you would have benefited greatly ....

i am not one for greek poetry, but who wrote the poem. maybe i am taking it out of context here a bit, but is this not encouraging sexual activity from very young?? and then zeus seeking ?? seeking what in sexual nature relating to a young boy??

I don't think they were "encouraging" it ... just didn't recognise it for the taboo it is today. Don't forget life expectancy was very short then and so children became adults faster. I think you have to be broad minded to see these practices in the context of a different time and cultural attitudes. It's not that the enjoyment of youthful bodies only happened in Greece, it's just that like all other matters, mathematics, astronomy, physics, philosophy etc... the Greeks spent a great deal of time writing in praise or in analysis of human conduct.

Do you think these things did not happen elsewhere at that time? Of course they did as they still do in some third world countries where children are married off very young and often to much older men. And what about the love of painting nudes over the Renaissance and even in Victorian England? Up until a dozen years or so ago, it was customary to photograph babies in the nude. Now that has gone out of fashion and is somewhat of a taboo. These things change. But it's good to have the changing views recorded in these imaginative ways with sculpture, pottery and poetry.

Correct me if I am wrong but isnt there double standards here?

When the life of the prophet Muhammed (s.a) was discussed he was accused of being a paedophile. By your account, "it ... just didn't recognise it for the taboo it is today " .

Well, he did live over 1,000 years later than we discussed, above. Still, I don't think young girls were routinely (if at all) married off to much older men in Hellenistic times.

But even so, I think it is his followers in this day and age who still practice things according to his "laws" which may be labelled thus, in view of what we know about the importance of a long, innocent, childhood.

Todays followers sof Islam are a different kettle of fish. They make there own rules. In todays sciety these acts are abhorable, but 1500 years ago, things were different. To me the abuse o little girls is no different from the abuse of boys. So long ago, it was not known as a taboo. Fine

[Oracle]

Confirmed. Greek ladyboy stuff.
"I delight in the prime of a boy at 12," one scribe declares in a text highlighted on a wall. "One of 13 is much more desirable. He who is 14 is a still sweeter flower of the lovers. And one who is just beginning his 15th year is yet more delightful. The 16th year is that of the gods. And as for the 17th, it is not for me but for Zeus to seek it."

It is ignoramuses such as yourself which this Exhibition will seek to educate. That you immediately attach sordid status ("ladyboy stuff" + other comments) to the beauty of a young boy reaching the grace of adulthood is a prime indication of the sickness which you have manifested on a number of occasions.

You blame the Greeks for being advanced enough to distinguish these facets of love and lust in humanity, with art and culture, beyond even today's standards and at a time when cave-dwelling Celts were practicing untold rituals but did not have the developmental means (mental or cultural) to leave such a legacy behind so that we can have a record of all our past.

What a shame your are imprisoned in the occupied territory for fear of EU justice-seeking injunctions, otherwise I am sure you would have benefited greatly ....

i am not one for greek poetry, but who wrote the poem. maybe i am taking it out of context here a bit, but is this not encouraging sexual activity from very young?? and then zeus seeking ?? seeking what in sexual nature relating to a young boy??

I don't think they were "encouraging" it ... just didn't recognise it for the taboo it is today. Don't forget life expectancy was very short then and so children became adults faster. I think you have to be broad minded to see these practices in the context of a different time and cultural attitudes. It's not that the enjoyment of youthful bodies only happened in Greece, it's just that like all other matters, mathematics, astronomy, physics, philosophy etc... the Greeks spent a great deal of time writing in praise or in analysis of human conduct.

Do you think these things did not happen elsewhere at that time? Of course they did as they still do in some third world countries where children are married off very young and often to much older men. And what about the love of painting nudes over the Renaissance and even in Victorian England? Up until a dozen years or so ago, it was customary to photograph babies in the nude. Now that has gone out of fashion and is somewhat of a taboo. These things change. But it's good to have the changing views recorded in these imaginative ways with sculpture, pottery and poetry.

Correct me if I am wrong but isnt there double standards here?

When the life of the prophet Muhammed (s.a) was discussed he was accused of being a paedophile. By your account, "it ... just didn't recognise it for the taboo it is today " .

Well, he did live over 1,000 years later than we discussed, above. Still, I don't think young girls were routinely (if at all) married off to much older men in Hellenistic times.

But even so, I think it is his followers in this day and age who still practice things according to his "laws" which may be labelled thus, in view of what we know about the importance of a long, innocent, childhood.

Todays followers sof Islam are a different kettle of fish. They make there own rules. In todays sciety these acts are abhorable, but 1500 years ago, things were different. To me the abuse o little girls is no different from the abuse of boys. So long ago, it was not known as a taboo. Fine

I agree. But young girls are a special case in that they can also become pregnant (from as young as 8 y.o. in some cases, and especially in older times according to some sources). Boys, even today, have to undergo abusive rites of passage challenges ... and of course one of the worst is genital mutilation, like circumcision.

[Phill]

Well, she is moving to Cyprus and it might be a match made in heaven.

Two lonely and lovely souls coming together in Cy. Sounds like destiny to me!

We want a complete brief on how things go on your first date.

are you footing the bill for this first date?

I would be more than happy to provide a very generous gift if there are wedding bells in the air, after you guys start dating and hit it off...

I've just seen someone called Eros standing on my beach with and a bow and arrow, and he's pointing it me..!!!

Paphitis, your presence alone would be a generous gift!!!

[denizaksulu]

Confirmed. Greek ladyboy stuff.
"I delight in the prime of a boy at 12," one scribe declares in a text highlighted on a wall. "One of 13 is much more desirable. He who is 14 is a still sweeter flower of the lovers. And one who is just beginning his 15th year is yet more delightful. The 16th year is that of the gods. And as for the 17th, it is not for me but for Zeus to seek it."

It is ignoramuses such as yourself which this Exhibition will seek to educate. That you immediately attach sordid status ("ladyboy stuff" + other comments) to the beauty of a young boy reaching the grace of adulthood is a prime indication of the sickness which you have manifested on a number of occasions.

You blame the Greeks for being advanced enough to distinguish these facets of love and lust in humanity, with art and culture, beyond even today's standards and at a time when cave-dwelling Celts were practicing untold rituals but did not have the developmental means (mental or cultural) to leave such a legacy behind so that we can have a record of all our past.

What a shame your are imprisoned in the occupied territory for fear of EU justice-seeking injunctions, otherwise I am sure you would have benefited greatly ....

i am not one for greek poetry, but who wrote the poem. maybe i am taking it out of context here a bit, but is this not encouraging sexual activity from very young?? and then zeus seeking ?? seeking what in sexual nature relating to a young boy??

I don't think they were "encouraging" it ... just didn't recognise it for the taboo it is today. Don't forget life expectancy was very short then and so children became adults faster. I think you have to be broad minded to see these practices in the context of a different time and cultural attitudes. It's not that the enjoyment of youthful bodies only happened in Greece, it's just that like all other matters, mathematics, astronomy, physics, philosophy etc... the Greeks spent a great deal of time writing in praise or in analysis of human conduct.

Do you think these things did not happen elsewhere at that time? Of course they did as they still do in some third world countries where children are married off very young and often to much older men. And what about the love of painting nudes over the Renaissance and even in Victorian England? Up until a dozen years or so ago, it was customary to photograph babies in the nude. Now that has gone out of fashion and is somewhat of a taboo. These things change. But it's good to have the changing views recorded in these imaginative ways with sculpture, pottery and poetry.

Correct me if I am wrong but isnt there double standards here?

When the life of the prophet Muhammed (s.a) was discussed he was accused of being a paedophile. By your account, "it ... just didn't recognise it for the taboo it is today " .

Well, he did live over 1,000 years later than we discussed, above. Still, I don't think young girls were routinely (if at all) married off to much older men in Hellenistic times.

But even so, I think it is his followers in this day and age who still practice things according to his "laws" which may be labelled thus, in view of what we know about the importance of a long, innocent, childhood.

Todays followers sof Islam are a different kettle of fish. They make there own rules. In todays sciety these acts are abhorable, but 1500 years ago, things were different. To me the abuse o little girls is no different from the abuse of boys. So long ago, it was not known as a taboo. Fine

I agree. But young girls are a special case in that they can also become pregnant (from as young as 8 y.o. in some cases, and especially in older times according to some sources). Boys, even today, have to undergo abusive rites of passage challenges ... and of course one of the worst is genital mutilation, like circumcision.

Ouch