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Would GCs kill TCs for the sake of their False Constitution?

Postby Acikgoz » Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:20 pm

Firstly, I post this given the post by Oracle was dispicable and I note many rejected the implication, for which I am thankful.

For the sake of discussion, it does present the thought, what about looking at things in the other direction.

I would contend from what I have read on this site, probably most GCs would not kill as they had done in the past, but most do believe it is right to continue the deplorable isolation that impacts the living conditions and opportunities for their "partners" on the island.

Both sides have suffered similar fates with refugees, murders, lands lost. Yet TCs are continually crushed by the megalomaniac endeavours of GCs.

Christofias = Papadopulos = GCs in general = Akritas lives on in an economic, social and political form.

Indeed we all have our opinions, but if we look at who is continuing to punish whom as well as showing restraint on finding a solution, we have a clear answer.

GCs will happily inflict pain on TCs for their false constitution.
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Re: Would GCs kill TCs for the sake of their False Constitut

Postby Jerry » Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:27 pm

Acikgoz wrote:Firstly, I post this given the post by Oracle was dispicable and I note many rejected the implication, for which I am thankful.

For the sake of discussion, it does present the thought, what about looking at things in the other direction.

I would contend from what I have read on this site, probably most GCs would not kill as they had done in the past, but most do believe it is right to continue the deplorable isolation that impacts the living conditions and opportunities for their "partners" on the island.

Both sides have suffered similar fates with refugees, murders, lands lost. Yet TCs are continually crushed by the megalomaniac endeavours of GCs.

Christofias = Papadopulos = GCs in general = Akritas lives on in an economic, social and political form.

Indeed we all have our opinions, but if we look at who is continuing to punish whom as well as showing restraint on finding a solution, we have a clear answer.

GCs will happily inflict pain on TCs for their false constitution.


Both sides have isues with each other, "isolation" being one of many. Why not show a little goodwill and give us back Varosha - it will cost you nothing, in fact TCs would probably benefit from the re-building jobs available.
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Postby Acikgoz » Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:39 pm

I believe that had been on the table for an ending of the isolation. GC politicians said NO, I think it's a good idea personally. Win-win for both sides, improves standard of living for everyone.

GCs had only offered to open the Famagusta port for joint operation in exchange for opening up Varosha. Items like registering Ercan as an international airport, freedom to export goods to other EU areas not only RoC etc. are real plausible actions that would see a positive and impactful improvement in sentiment on the island.
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Re: Would GCs kill TCs for the sake of their False Constitut

Postby Oracle » Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:57 pm

Acikgoz wrote:Firstly, I post this given the post by Oracle was dispicable ...


Why? It was one of your own who suggested TCs would kill GCs for the sake of their false flag.

Are you worried because I confronted such views for the sake of right-minded TCs?

I see you have not joined the ranks of the right-minded TCs who wholeheartedly condemned the Turkish murderer who killed the unarmed GC civilian for climbing a Turkish-flag pole ....
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Re: Would GCs kill TCs for the sake of their False Constitut

Postby Expatkiwi » Thu Dec 10, 2009 4:26 pm

Oracle wrote:
Acikgoz wrote:Firstly, I post this given the post by Oracle was dispicable ...


Why? It was one of your own who suggested TCs would kill GCs for the sake of their false flag.

Are you worried because I confronted such views for the sake of right-minded TCs?

I see you have not joined the ranks of the right-minded TCs who wholeheartedly condemned the Turkish murderer who killed the unarmed GC civilian for climbing a Turkish-flag pole ....



Give it a rest, Oracle! You really love to take things out of context.
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Postby Acikgoz » Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:44 pm

Expat: ""Overt Radical Advocating Completely Lying to Everyone"! I thought better of you..." Personally I couldn't think anything worse of the rabid blood-lusting looney racist freak.


"the RoC exists and is the one true government of the whole of Cyprus" Orifice - this is why there has been no settlement to date.
RoC does not govern TRNC/North Cyprus/Northern State of Cyprus. Therefore your statement is inaccurate. To govern you must have control. To govern you must represent people. RoC does not have that for the North.

The sooner you and your people face facts that the Turkish Cypriots are not governed by the RoC i.e. the reality rather than the vision you'd like to have be reality, the sooner a comprehensive mutually beneficial outcome will be achieved in Cyprus for all the people.
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Re: Would GCs kill TCs for the sake of their False Constitut

Postby CopperLine » Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:08 pm

Jerry wrote:
Acikgoz wrote:Firstly, I post this given the post by Oracle was dispicable and I note many rejected the implication, for which I am thankful.

For the sake of discussion, it does present the thought, what about looking at things in the other direction.

I would contend from what I have read on this site, probably most GCs would not kill as they had done in the past, but most do believe it is right to continue the deplorable isolation that impacts the living conditions and opportunities for their "partners" on the island.

Both sides have suffered similar fates with refugees, murders, lands lost. Yet TCs are continually crushed by the megalomaniac endeavours of GCs.

Christofias = Papadopulos = GCs in general = Akritas lives on in an economic, social and political form.

Indeed we all have our opinions, but if we look at who is continuing to punish whom as well as showing restraint on finding a solution, we have a clear answer.

GCs will happily inflict pain on TCs for their false constitution.


Both sides have isues with each other, "isolation" being one of many. Why not show a little goodwill and give us back Varosha - it will cost you nothing, in fact TCs would probably benefit from the re-building jobs available.


Agreed,Jerry. This would be immensely helpful to all of Cyprus and the most constructive 'confidence building' move that TRNC and/or Turkey could do.
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Re: Would GCs kill TCs for the sake of their False Constitut

Postby YFred » Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:32 pm

Jerry wrote:
Acikgoz wrote:Firstly, I post this given the post by Oracle was dispicable and I note many rejected the implication, for which I am thankful.

For the sake of discussion, it does present the thought, what about looking at things in the other direction.

I would contend from what I have read on this site, probably most GCs would not kill as they had done in the past, but most do believe it is right to continue the deplorable isolation that impacts the living conditions and opportunities for their "partners" on the island.

Both sides have suffered similar fates with refugees, murders, lands lost. Yet TCs are continually crushed by the megalomaniac endeavours of GCs.

Christofias = Papadopulos = GCs in general = Akritas lives on in an economic, social and political form.

Indeed we all have our opinions, but if we look at who is continuing to punish whom as well as showing restraint on finding a solution, we have a clear answer.

GCs will happily inflict pain on TCs for their false constitution.


Both sides have isues with each other, "isolation" being one of many. Why not show a little goodwill and give us back Varosha - it will cost you nothing, in fact TCs would probably benefit from the re-building jobs available.

Only if you allow free trade to the north and that will cost you nothing in the same way.
Deal?
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Re: Would GCs kill TCs for the sake of their False Constitut

Postby Jerry » Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:39 pm

YFred wrote:
Jerry wrote:
Acikgoz wrote:Firstly, I post this given the post by Oracle was dispicable and I note many rejected the implication, for which I am thankful.

For the sake of discussion, it does present the thought, what about looking at things in the other direction.

I would contend from what I have read on this site, probably most GCs would not kill as they had done in the past, but most do believe it is right to continue the deplorable isolation that impacts the living conditions and opportunities for their "partners" on the island.

Both sides have suffered similar fates with refugees, murders, lands lost. Yet TCs are continually crushed by the megalomaniac endeavours of GCs.

Christofias = Papadopulos = GCs in general = Akritas lives on in an economic, social and political form.

Indeed we all have our opinions, but if we look at who is continuing to punish whom as well as showing restraint on finding a solution, we have a clear answer.

GCs will happily inflict pain on TCs for their false constitution.


Both sides have isues with each other, "isolation" being one of many. Why not show a little goodwill and give us back Varosha - it will cost you nothing, in fact TCs would probably benefit from the re-building jobs available.

Only if you allow free trade to the north and that will cost you nothing in the same way.
Deal?


Hang on, you have had free electricity, free healthcare, passports, jobs in the ROC, etc etc, what have we had in return?
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Re: Would GCs kill TCs for the sake of their False Constitut

Postby CopperLine » Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:49 pm

YFred wrote:
Jerry wrote:
Acikgoz wrote:Firstly, I post this given the post by Oracle was dispicable and I note many rejected the implication, for which I am thankful.

For the sake of discussion, it does present the thought, what about looking at things in the other direction.

I would contend from what I have read on this site, probably most GCs would not kill as they had done in the past, but most do believe it is right to continue the deplorable isolation that impacts the living conditions and opportunities for their "partners" on the island.

Both sides have suffered similar fates with refugees, murders, lands lost. Yet TCs are continually crushed by the megalomaniac endeavours of GCs.

Christofias = Papadopulos = GCs in general = Akritas lives on in an economic, social and political form.

Indeed we all have our opinions, but if we look at who is continuing to punish whom as well as showing restraint on finding a solution, we have a clear answer.

GCs will happily inflict pain on TCs for their false constitution.


Both sides have isues with each other, "isolation" being one of many. Why not show a little goodwill and give us back Varosha - it will cost you nothing, in fact TCs would probably benefit from the re-building jobs available.

Only if you allow free trade to the north and that will cost you nothing in the same way.
Deal?


YFred
Maybe. But not necessarily.

First, if there is a log-jam - and 35 years is quite long for a log-jam - then some party has to break the jam. So yes it could be RoC on N-S trade,but it could also be TRNC/Turkey on Varosha. Saying "you go first" "no, you go first" does not break the log jam :it is the log-jam !

Second, just one break in the log-jam may be all that is necessary to allow a complete free-flow of follow on negotiations. Worth a risk over another 35 years ?

Third, in this specific case, given the 'ghost' status of Varosha what has TRNC/Turkey got to lose by using this to break the log-jam ? Doesn't it have everything to gain (at no cost) ?
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