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[YFred]

I agree with you and have said this many times on the forum. However there is a slight problem with that. The roc government has been keeping the truth from the GCs for so long that they dare not let the truth of what they did to TCs from 63 to 74 come out. Especially the high ranking pezzevengis dead or alive, missing or still in the grave.

And the T/Cs did nothing from 1963-74. Ankara did nothing. Greece did nothing. The British did nothing. The Americans did nothing. It was all the work of the mighty Greek Cypriots. It is the Greek Cypriots who are entirely responsible for the current situation. It is the Greek Cypriots who expelled themselves from their ancestral homes. And it is the Greek Cypriots who currently occupy northern Cyprus.

Really, YFred? Perhaps you should spend less time posting simplistic nonsense on this forum and more time reading a few history books. Preferably not written in Turkish! I can recommend some if you like...

You did not understand my post and missed the comment completely. The contention is very simple. Everyone has responsibilities as to what they did. The point is how aware are the avearge GC community as to what their leaders did in that time scale. Judging by how much is in the history books (2 pages for 11 years) I would say Zilch.

[Hermes]

I agree with you and have said this many times on the forum. However there is a slight problem with that. The roc government has been keeping the truth from the GCs for so long that they dare not let the truth of what they did to TCs from 63 to 74 come out. Especially the high ranking pezzevengis dead or alive, missing or still in the grave.

And the T/Cs did nothing from 1963-74. Ankara did nothing. Greece did nothing. The British did nothing. The Americans did nothing. It was all the work of the mighty Greek Cypriots. It is the Greek Cypriots who are entirely responsible for the current situation. It is the Greek Cypriots who expelled themselves from their ancestral homes. And it is the Greek Cypriots who currently occupy northern Cyprus.

Really, YFred? Perhaps you should spend less time posting simplistic nonsense on this forum and more time reading a few history books. Preferably not written in Turkish! I can recommend some if you like...

You did not understand my post and missed the comment completely. The contention is very simple. Everyone has responsibilities as to what they did. The point is how aware are the avearge GC community as to what their leaders did in that time scale. Judging by how much is in the history books (2 pages for 11 years) I would say Zilch.

I think Greek Cypriots are well aware of the pressures and influences that destroyed the Republic. But they do not accept that Turkey had any right or justification to invade and occupy the island. However disgracefully the Americans and British acted with their Greek and Turkish stooges, it was Turkey which invaded, ethnically cleansed and partitioned the island. That is the consequence we are faced with. It is Turkey which occupies and divides Cyprus now. It is Turkey that is in violation of international law. It is how to remove Turkey from Cyprus that is now the issue.

[Viewpoint]

The GCs messed up bigtime when they had the chance to unite all Cypriots, are TCs angels of course not but nowhere as cunning and underhand as GCs they are responsible for todays division.

The Turks messed up big time when they invaded and occupied Cyprus. That is why they are currently negotiating the terms of their withdrawal.

They intervened to put out a buring fire which you could not solve 11 years of hardship persecution and second class citizenship of TCs was enough to bring them here to resolve matter which they have bene trying to do so with GCs who do not really want a solution if it is not 100% on their terms al gives them control over the whole island with TCs reduced to minority status in a GC state, this will never happen becuase we will not allow it.

[Hermes]

They intervened to put out a buring fire which you could not solve 11 years of hardship persecution and second class citizenship of TCs was enough to bring them here to resolve matter which they have bene trying to do so with GCs who do not really want a solution if it is not 100% on their terms al gives them control over the whole island with TCs reduced to minority status in a GC state, this will never happen becuase we will not allow it.

You will do whatever Turkey tells you to do. Once the Turks leave you will have to stand on your own feet. Let's see how well you manage to survive in a unified Cyprus with no Turkey to subsidize you. I'll be amazed if you lot last a generation. You couldn't organise a fuck in a brothel...

[Viewpoint]

They intervened to put out a buring fire which you could not solve 11 years of hardship persecution and second class citizenship of TCs was enough to bring them here to resolve matter which they have bene trying to do so with GCs who do not really want a solution if it is not 100% on their terms al gives them control over the whole island with TCs reduced to minority status in a GC state, this will never happen becuase we will not allow it.

You will do whatever Turkey tells you to do. Once the Turks leave you will have to stand on your own feet. Let's see how well you manage to survive in a unified Cyprus with no Turkey to subsidize you. I'll be amazed if you lot last a generation. You couldn't organise a fuck in a brothel...

You under estimated us in 1974 and look what happened, dont you ever learn, obvioulsy not.

[Oracle]

They intervened to put out a buring fire which you could not solve 11 years of hardship persecution and second class citizenship of TCs was enough to bring them here to resolve matter which they have bene trying to do so with GCs who do not really want a solution if it is not 100% on their terms al gives them control over the whole island with TCs reduced to minority status in a GC state, this will never happen becuase we will not allow it.

You will do whatever Turkey tells you to do. Once the Turks leave you will have to stand on your own feet. Let's see how well you manage to survive in a unified Cyprus with no Turkey to subsidize you. I'll be amazed if you lot last a generation. You couldn't organise a fuck in a brothel...

You under estimated us in 1974 and look what happened, dont you ever learn, obvioulsy not.

How "brave" you were .... Are 43,000 Turkish troops enough for you brave souls?

[Hermes]

They intervened to put out a buring fire which you could not solve 11 years of hardship persecution and second class citizenship of TCs was enough to bring them here to resolve matter which they have bene trying to do so with GCs who do not really want a solution if it is not 100% on their terms al gives them control over the whole island with TCs reduced to minority status in a GC state, this will never happen becuase we will not allow it.

You will do whatever Turkey tells you to do. Once the Turks leave you will have to stand on your own feet. Let's see how well you manage to survive in a unified Cyprus with no Turkey to subsidize you. I'll be amazed if you lot last a generation. You couldn't organise a fuck in a brothel...

You under estimated us in 1974 and look what happened, dont you ever learn, obvioulsy not.

No. We always knew you were barbarians and you went right ahead and proved it. Now you are looking for a way to leave Cyprus and not "lose face". It is little Cyprus which holds the future of Turkey in its hands. How did that happen?

[Viewpoint]

They intervened to put out a buring fire which you could not solve 11 years of hardship persecution and second class citizenship of TCs was enough to bring them here to resolve matter which they have bene trying to do so with GCs who do not really want a solution if it is not 100% on their terms al gives them control over the whole island with TCs reduced to minority status in a GC state, this will never happen becuase we will not allow it.

You will do whatever Turkey tells you to do. Once the Turks leave you will have to stand on your own feet. Let's see how well you manage to survive in a unified Cyprus with no Turkey to subsidize you. I'll be amazed if you lot last a generation. You couldn't organise a fuck in a brothel...

You under estimated us in 1974 and look what happened, dont you ever learn, obvioulsy not.

No. We always knew you were barbarians and you went right ahead and proved it. Now you are looking for a way to leave Cyprus and not "lose face". It is little Cyprus which holds the future of Turkey in its hands. How did that happen?

No Hermes you got your arses whipped big time.

[Hermes]

No Hermes you got your arses whipped big time.

But now it's the ROC which is in the EU, has rebuilt its economy, enjoys international recognition and holds the future of Turkey in its hands. Not bad for a small country of less than a million. All those troops and you couldn't even hold on to what you stole. Bye, bye Turk. Don't let the door hit you on the way out...

[bill cobbett]

No Hermes you got your arses whipped big time.

But now it's the ROC which is in the EU, has rebuilt its economy, enjoys international recognition and holds the future of Turkey in its hands. Not bad for a small country of less than a million. All those troops and you couldn't even hold on to what you stole. Bye, bye Turk. Don't let the door hit you on the way out...

.... and switch off the lights! .... on the pacman.