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[B25]

The Quote:

"Answering a question, Premier Erdogan said rumors about plans to withdraw Turkish Troops from Cyprus to be deployed in Afghanistan was completely false, noting that such a thing was out of the question."

Damn press. To me what it says is that the troops willNOT be withdrawn from Cyprus to be redeployed in Afganistan.
This is not the same as saying," the troops will NEVER leave Cyprus".

Pure sensationalism if you ask me.

I think the door for ther TA is still open.

Deniz, sorry to burst your bubble, but this is what he said and it is also the heading:

Premier Erdogan says withdrawal of troops from Cyprus is out of question.

Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan said on Monday that withdrawal of troops from Cyprus was out of the question.

Afganistan or not, Turkey has no intention of leaving Cyprus, well not by talks anyhow.

We need another way to extract them!

I'm sorry but you are quoting the article, not what Erdogan said. Read the article again and what Erdogan said is in parenthesis, the rest is what the article said he said. Not the same thing at all.

Vaughn, if you have an issue understanding what the article has said then thats your problem.

It is quite clear the article has said what he said so no need to play with words.

If we take your logic, then anything we read is total crap because the article is saying it and not the sayer??

It is quite clear that Turkey has no intention of removing its torrps from Cyprus, THATS WHAT EDDIE HAS SAID. Now disprove me otherwise..

[vaughanwilliams]

The Quote:

"Answering a question, Premier Erdogan said rumors about plans to withdraw Turkish Troops from Cyprus to be deployed in Afghanistan was completely false, noting that such a thing was out of the question."

Damn press. To me what it says is that the troops willNOT be withdrawn from Cyprus to be redeployed in Afganistan.
This is not the same as saying," the troops will NEVER leave Cyprus".

Pure sensationalism if you ask me.

I think the door for ther TA is still open.

Deniz, sorry to burst your bubble, but this is what he said and it is also the heading:

Premier Erdogan says withdrawal of troops from Cyprus is out of question.

Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan said on Monday that withdrawal of troops from Cyprus was out of the question.

Afganistan or not, Turkey has no intention of leaving Cyprus, well not by talks anyhow.

We need another way to extract them!

I'm sorry but you are quoting the article, not what Erdogan said. Read the article again and what Erdogan said is in parenthesis, the rest is what the article said he said. Not the same thing at all.

Vaughn, if you have an issue understanding what the article has said then thats your problem.
I have no difficulty understanding what the article has said. It doesn't mean Erdogan said it though.
It is quite clear the article has said what he said so no need to play with words.
I'm not playing with words - the article is.
If we take your logic, then anything we read is total crap because the article is saying it and not the sayer??
Usually the case.
It is quite clear that Turkey has no intention of removing its torrps from Cyprus, THATS WHAT EDDIE HAS SAID. Now disprove me otherwise..

I think only Mr. Erdogan will prove you wrong, and you'll have to wait and see about that.

[denizaksulu]

The Quote:

"Answering a question, Premier Erdogan said rumors about plans to withdraw Turkish Troops from Cyprus to be deployed in Afghanistan was completely false, noting that such a thing was out of the question."

Damn press. To me what it says is that the troops willNOT be withdrawn from Cyprus to be redeployed in Afganistan.
This is not the same as saying," the troops will NEVER leave Cyprus".

Pure sensationalism if you ask me.

I think the door for ther TA is still open.

Deniz, sorry to burst your bubble, but this is what he said and it is also the heading:

Premier Erdogan says withdrawal of troops from Cyprus is out of question.

Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan said on Monday that withdrawal of troops from Cyprus was out of the question.

Afganistan or not, Turkey has no intention of leaving Cyprus, well not by talks anyhow.

We need another way to extract them!

The bit that mentions the withdrawal (without the mention of Afganistan) looks like the poster comment.

The section where he mentions the non-withdrawal with Afganistan being mentioned is in "quotes".

I take it that the poster is trying to sensationalise the Non-withdrawal of the TA. I link it to Afganistan.

Maybe I am wrong. Best to go to the link and read his mind.

[runaway]

Withdrawal without a settlement is impossible. He said that clearly in his message.

[Malapapa]

Withdrawal without a settlement is impossible. He said that clearly in his message.

Of course, settlement without a withdrawal is also impossible. It's a chicken (or in this case, turkey) and egg situation.

[Oracle]

I think the EU will make the decision for Erdogan ...

[Lit]

Erdogan said they discussed the issues related to fight against terrorism. "We have reaffirmed the understanding that 'separatist terrorist organization is the common enemy of the United States, Turkey and Iraq'...

And Cyprus! There is a separatist terrorist organization here in Cyprus too Mr, Erdogan. The RoC cant transfer soldiers to Afghanistan and Iraq, Mr. Erdogan, because it is dealing with its own separatist terrorist organization. And unfortunately, its dealing with this fight mostly on its own. Perhaps if others assisted the RoC? When is the world community going to help Cyprus in its fight for justice?

[Malapapa]

Erdogan said they discussed the issues related to fight against terrorism. "We have reaffirmed the understanding that 'separatist terrorist organization is the common enemy of the United States, Turkey and Iraq'...

And Cyprus! There is a separatist terrorist organization here in Cyprus too Mr, Erdogan. The RoC cant transfer soldiers to Afghanistan and Iraq, Mr. Erdogan, because it is dealing with its own separatist terrorist organization. And unfortunately, its dealing with this fight mostly on its own. Perhaps if others assisted the RoC? When is the world community going to help Cyprus in its fight for justice?

Unfortunately, the world won't do anything, which is why I now believe it's time to call Turkey's bluff, play hard-ball and veto further progress towards EU membership. Enough is enough.

Cyprus demands freeze on Turkey's EU talks
Brussels - Cyprus on Tuesday demanded a freeze on Turkey's European Union accession talks because of its blockade of Cypriot vessels, throwing a meeting of EU foreign ministers into disarray, diplomats in Brussels said. EU member states are keen to enlist Turkey's support to end the decades-old division of Cyprus, and are wary of antagonizing Ankara. But Cyprus wants Turkey to open its ports to Cypriot ships and aircraft, and is pushing the EU to take a hard line on the issue.

At Tuesday's meeting, Cypriot Foreign Minister Markos Kyprianou called on the EU not to open accession talks with Turkey on any issues in 2010 and demanded that the bloc's executive, the European Commission, launch a full review of Turkey's EU obligations, diplomatic sources said.

Chief among those obligations is an agreement to include all the EU's new member states - including Cyprus - in a longstanding customs union. The agreement is known as the Ankara Protocol.

Turkey has so far refused to let Cypriot ships and aircraft onto its territory, arguing that the Greek Cypriot regime has not lifted its embargo on vessels from the north of the divided island.

The row has already led the EU to freeze talks on eight out of 35 negotiating subjects. As an EU member, Cyprus has veto powers over foreign-policy issues.

However, diplomats said that other EU member states were keen to enlist Ankara's support on issues such as Cyprus' reunification and the EU's own energy supplies - making them unlikely to accept the Cypriot demand.

(Bollocks! Diplomatic double-speak. What choice have other EU member states but to accept Cyprus's demands if it has a veto? Fcuk 'em and eat 'em. No member state should be expected to act against its national interest and it's no longer in Cyprus's interests to continue this charade. If Talat won't show leadership in claiming political asylum, Christofias now has to show leadership by saying enough is enough).

Foreign ministers were expected to return to the question later on Tuesday. Diplomats said that if they could not reach agreement on the issue, EU leaders would have to pick it up at a summit on Thursday.

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show ... talks.html

[Lit]

Anadolu 00:24 8th Dec 2009

http://www.aa.com.tr/en/news/4118.html

Premier Erdogan says withdrawal of troops from Cyprus is out of question.

Who truly is surprised by this statement above? Has Erdogan ever claimed that Turkey would completely withdraw all its troops from Cyprus?

Why do we act surprised by these statements? The Turks / TCs speak with one voice on all matters concerning their positions on Cyprus. They have not deviated one inch from their red lines.

[paliometoxo]

its not suprising at all!

They have said the same crap for many years nothing has changed re lit