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[Viewpoint]

I get to wondering why the hell do GCs want reunification when they continously slag off TCs and run them into the ground as the scum of the earth. If that was the case then surely they would want to erect walls and amke sure we stay in the north and demand agreed partition themselves getting back as much land as possible. Is it really land? or wanting to see Cyprus as a whole? or revenge? or dominating and exploiting TCs? what is it these people want? If this forum isanything to go by if we capitulated to their demands how long do you think TCs would survive before they started to feel like foreigners in their won country due to GC manipulation and appliance of democracy and human rights.

Its as clear as day that neither side trusts no even likes the other, so why are we forcing a marriage nobody wants??? surely it will fail if neither side wants it?

[FragnaticDeath]

Viewpoint you got issues m8. I have been here for only about 1.5 month and what you do is only complain and complain about the same question.

If you want an answer to this, go to your previous topics and read them over and over until it fits through in that thick skull of yours. ACCEPTING thats it not your own land.

[Viewpoint]

Viewpoint you got issues m8. I have been here for only about 1.5 month and what you do is only complain and complain about the same question.

If you want an answer to this, go to your previous topics and read them over and over until it fits through in that thick skull of yours. ACCEPTING thats it not your own land.

This new topic is a result of all that have read, so its only the land GCs are interested in?

[FragnaticDeath]

What else is really annoying, you never point out what TCs want and keep pointing out to the viewers about GCs (they are the devil of this world). So what are you trying to prove?

[Viewpoint]

What else is really annoying, you never point out what TCs want and keep pointing out to the viewers about GCs (they are the devil of this world). So what are you trying to prove?

You have obviously not read or understood it but I have repetedly have stated that I support BBF with equality of the 2 states failing that which is more likely agreed partition for return of land.

[Malapapa]

What else is really annoying, you never point out what TCs want and keep pointing out to the viewers about GCs (they are the devil of this world). So what are you trying to prove?

You have obviously not read or understood it but I have repetedly have stated that I support BBF with equality of the 2 states failing that which is more likely agreed partition for return of land.

Do you accept equality of the two states in the same was as, say, the state of Texas is equal to the state of Hawaii? I'd like to get a handle on what this "equality of the two states" means in practice.

Also, if the Maronites insisted on having their own state, too, would you object? Would that mean equality of three states? Or if the Armenians wanted one too. Would that mean equality of four states?

I know they're only very small minorities, but what if they insisted that they didn't want to be treated as a minority in their own homeland, if the TCs didn't. How would you handle this?

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Malapapa

Do you accept equality of the two states in the same was as, say, the state of Texas is equal to the state of Hawaii? I'd like to get a handle on what this "equality of the two states" means in practice.

Equality of the 2 states has many interpretations, as far as I am concerned I would be happy with 2 states having equal representation in the houses and where the majority from each state have to vote for bills to go through.

Also, if the Maronites insisted on having their own state, too, would you object? Would that mean equality of three states? Or if the Armenians wanted one too. Would that mean equality of four states?

I know they're only very small minorities, but what if they insisted that they didn't want to be treated as a minority in their own homeland, if the TCs didn't. How would you handle this?

There minorities have been absorbed by you GCs this is what we fought against if they also wanted their rights they should have stood by our side instead they threw their lot in with you and have now got no right to ask for anything other than minority status which we will never accept, do you understand the difference?

[Malapapa]

I know they're only very small minorities, but what if they insisted that they didn't want to be treated as a minority in their own homeland, if the TCs didn't. How would you handle this?

There minorities have been absorbed by you GCs

Have they? And if even if they have, do you think they are happy at being absorbed. Maybe they too want additional rights beyond just minority status. Why not, if you can get them? Don't be so dismissive of minorities. It's hypocritical.

this is what we fought against if they also wanted their rights they should have stood by our side instead they threw their lot in with you

I don't think it's anywhere near as simple as this. They want rights like any minority does. They just happen to be smaller in numbers than TCs. But they are no less worthy of privileges. If you deserve them, why not them?

and have now got no right to ask for anything other than minority status which we will never accept, do you understand the difference?

No I don't understand at all. Why should they have to accept minority status if other minorities get privileges? This is double standards. And the way you just dismiss the other minorities of Cyprus so readily is, frankly, perverse.

[Expatkiwi]

I get to wondering why the hell do GCs want reunification when they continously slag off TCs and run them into the ground as the scum of the earth. If that was the case then surely they would want to erect walls and amke sure we stay in the north and demand agreed partition themselves getting back as much land as possible. Is it really land? or wanting to see Cyprus as a whole? or revenge? or dominating and exploiting TCs? what is it these people want? If this forum isanything to go by if we capitulated to their demands how long do you think TCs would survive before they started to feel like foreigners in their won country due to GC manipulation and appliance of democracy and human rights.

Its as clear as day that neither side trusts no even likes the other, so why are we forcing a marriage nobody wants??? surely it will fail if neither side wants it?

Thats what I keep trying to tell folk. To the Greek Cypriots, it seems less to do with reconciliation and more to do with retribution. The Greek capacity for vendetta is both remarkable AND scary...

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Malapapa

Have they? And if even if they have, do you think they are happy at being absorbed. Maybe they too want additional rights beyond just minority status. Why not, if you can get them? Don't be so dismissive of minorities. It's hypocritical.

Yes they have and you know it, thats the difference between TCs and Armenian and Maronites, we are still fighting for our rights they capitulated to your demands ages ago and are not better off that the minorities in the UK eg Pakistanis and Indians...we are not like those minorities and will never be, when will you get that into your head?

I don't think it's anywhere near as simple as this. They want rights like any minority does. They just happen to be smaller in numbers than TCs. But they are no less worthy of privileges. If you deserve them, why not them?

If you feel so strongly about it you give it to them then, they are currently a minority in your GC state, so you can give them what they want.

No I don't understand at all. Why should they have to accept minority status if other minorities get privileges? This is double standards. And the way you just dismiss the other minorities of Cyprus so readily is, frankly, perverse.

Easy really you are being bloody minded for the sake of it, they have capitulated to your demands and have reduced themselves to minority status in a GC status, this is what we are fighting against to the end and will never capitulate like they did.

So playing ignorant will not take away from the fact that you have to negotiate with us to form a BBf with political eqaulity of the 2 states.