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Re: Do GCs really want Unification?

Postby EPSILON » Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:26 pm

Viewpoint wrote:I get to wondering why the hell do GCs want reunification when they continously slag off TCs and run them into the ground as the scum of the earth. If that was the case then surely they would want to erect walls and amke sure we stay in the north and demand agreed partition themselves getting back as much land as possible. Is it really land? or wanting to see Cyprus as a whole? or revenge? or dominating and exploiting TCs? what is it these people want? If this forum isanything to go by if we capitulated to their demands how long do you think TCs would survive before they started to feel like foreigners in their won country due to GC manipulation and appliance of democracy and human rights.

Its as clear as day that neither side trusts no even likes the other, so why are we forcing a marriage nobody wants??? surely it will fail if neither side wants it?


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Re: Do GCs really want Unification?

Postby EPSILON » Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:53 pm

Viewpoint wrote:I get to wondering why the hell do GCs want reunification when they continously slag off TCs and run them into the ground as the scum of the earth. If that was the case then surely they would want to erect walls and amke sure we stay in the north and demand agreed partition themselves getting back as much land as possible. Is it really land? or wanting to see Cyprus as a whole? or revenge? or dominating and exploiting TCs? what is it these people want? If this forum isanything to go by if we capitulated to their demands how long do you think TCs would survive before they started to feel like foreigners in their won country due to GC manipulation and appliance of democracy and human rights.

Its as clear as day that neither side trusts no even likes the other, so why are we forcing a marriage nobody wants??? surely it will fail if neither side wants it?


T/cs are and always was a foreign culture minority-if they wish to be a part of a unification they must accept themslves as such -otherwise they will be,at least for the next 200 years, people without routes/culture/future and the worst... after the 200 years will be simply dissapeared.

Turkey just facked up itselve and T/cs with its invasion and T/cs should or must understand this asap. Turkey may became a region power (politically) but T/cs will remain the loosers of the story.
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Re: Do GCs really want Unification?

Postby Viewpoint » Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:26 pm

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Viewpoint wrote:I get to wondering why the hell do GCs want reunification when they continously slag off TCs and run them into the ground as the scum of the earth. If that was the case then surely they would want to erect walls and amke sure we stay in the north and demand agreed partition themselves getting back as much land as possible. Is it really land? or wanting to see Cyprus as a whole? or revenge? or dominating and exploiting TCs? what is it these people want? If this forum isanything to go by if we capitulated to their demands how long do you think TCs would survive before they started to feel like foreigners in their won country due to GC manipulation and appliance of democracy and human rights.

Its as clear as day that neither side trusts no even likes the other, so why are we forcing a marriage nobody wants??? surely it will fail if neither side wants it?


T/cs are and always was a foreign culture minority-if they wish to be a part of a unification they must accept themslves as such -otherwise they will be,at least for the next 200 years, people without routes/culture/future and the worst... after the 200 years will be simply dissapeared.

Turkey just facked up itselve and T/cs with its invasion and T/cs should or must understand this asap. Turkey may became a region power (politically) but T/cs will remain the loosers of the story.


Where do TCs come from Epsilon if Turkey win we win.
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:31 pm

Malapapa wrote:
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FragnaticDeath wrote:my point is made. We dont have any. and here for you tonight if you cant sleep

http://www.hri.org/docs/annan/Annan_Plan_April2004.pdf

read it off and show me the pros of the GCs



Lets do them 1 by 1.

The return of over 50% of GC refugees to their homes.


That's not a pro that's a con, because it means the other 50% refugees can't return to their homes.


We will get to the remaining 50% but reading your response that you regard over 50% of GCs returning to their homes a con means that you are an idiot and theres nothing more to be said on this subject. becasue you are not worth the effort as you do not have the capacity to understand jack shit.
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Postby FragnaticDeath » Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:54 pm

lol I give up. Your stupid
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Postby Malapapa » Mon Dec 07, 2009 7:10 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
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That's not a pro that's a con, because it means the other 50% refugees can't return to their homes.


We will get to the remaining 50% but reading your response that you regard over 50% of GCs returning to their homes a con means that you are an idiot and theres nothing more to be said on this subject. becasue you are not worth the effort as you do not have the capacity to understand jack shit.


A "con" as in a negative; an opposite to a "pro"... although 50% being diddled out of the right to their property because the other 50% would have the right to their property is indeed a "con" as in "confidence trick". And if I was in their position I might just seek recourse in the relevant courts. And I would secure my property and/or substantial damages from those who thought it appropriate to give my personal property away without my personal approval.

As for me being deemed an idiot by someone with such warped views, such a nasty streak and with such clear anger management problems, it's something I can live with.
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:22 pm

Malapapa wrote:
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Malapapa wrote:
That's not a pro that's a con, because it means the other 50% refugees can't return to their homes.


We will get to the remaining 50% but reading your response that you regard over 50% of GCs returning to their homes a con means that you are an idiot and theres nothing more to be said on this subject. becasue you are not worth the effort as you do not have the capacity to understand jack shit.


A "con" as in a negative; an opposite to a "pro"... although 50% being diddled out of the right to their property because the other 50% would have the right to their property is indeed a "con" as in "confidence trick". And if I was in their position I might just seek recourse in the relevant courts. And I would secure my property and/or substantial damages from those who thought it appropriate to give my personal property away without my personal approval.

As for me being deemed an idiot by someone with such warped views, such a nasty streak and with such clear anger management problems, it's something I can live with.


You do not know me and you are not competent enough to judge my character you only knowwhat you read on here and if my views are warped yours must be stupidity at its best, if you still think that over 50% of GCs returning to their homes is a con then we will let other forum readers decide on your capacity to compromise and agree a solution because nothing short of our capitulation to GCs demands will satisfy your greed to take control and dominate the whole island at the expense of TCs.
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:42 pm

FragnaticDeath wrote:lol I give up. Your stupid


You are the ignorant one as you do not want to understand anything other than your own opinions.
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Postby Malapapa » Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:45 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
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A "con" as in a negative; an opposite to a "pro"... although 50% being diddled out of the right to their property because the other 50% would have the right to their property is indeed a "con" as in "confidence trick". And if I was in their position I might just seek recourse in the relevant courts. And I would secure my property and/or substantial damages from those who thought it appropriate to give my personal property away without my personal approval.

As for me being deemed an idiot by someone with such warped views, such a nasty streak and with such clear anger management problems, it's something I can live with.


You do not know me and you are not competent enough to judge my character you only knowwhat you read on here and if my views are warped yours must be stupidity at its best,


Of course I don't know you and my assessment of your character is based entirely on your warped, nasty and angry posts which I and everyone else is competent enough to read and judge.

Insisting on an individual's human rights (including yours you nasty person) is not a demonstration of my stupidity but of my humanity.

Viewpoint wrote: if you still think that over 50% of GCs returning to their homes is a con then we will let other forum readers decide on your capacity to compromise and agree a solution because nothing short of our capitulation to GCs demands will satisfy your greed to take control and dominate the whole island at the expense of TCs.


These aren't demands. These are inalienable human rights. No one should have to compromise on these and if they feel strongly enough about it there are clear laws to secure them. Each individual, pre- solution and post- solution will be able to do so. If you see this as greed on my part and capitulation on yours then this is an example of your warped, nasty and angry character.

Now fuck off.
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:12 pm

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Of course I don't know you and my assessment of your character is based entirely on your warped, nasty and angry posts which I and everyone else is competent enough to read and judge.

Insisting on an individual's human rights (including yours you nasty person) is not a demonstration of my stupidity but of my humanity.


Where have I been nasty and angry?, my reponses are in direct result of your own posts which warrant such a level of communication anything less and it would have no impact on your learning the viewpoint of an average TC.

We are all demanding human rights are we not? you do not have a monoply on them, you give me mine and I will gladly give you yours, isnt that why we are aat the negotiating table?

These aren't demands. These are inalienable human rights. No one should have to compromise on these and if they feel strongly enough about it there are clear laws to secure them. Each individual, pre- solution and post- solution will be able to do so. If you see this as greed on my part and capitulation on yours then this is an example of your warped, nasty and angry character.


Dont you feel that you need to change the record as your mindset has not gotten you anywhere close to solution for over 46 years, your last attempt to brush us aside lost you 37% of the island and now you cru wolf and human rights, well you stole all our rights for over 46 years what do you intend to do about that or does it only effect Gcs and their losses. Your ignorance and despot approach will guarantee only one thing that these refugees remain just that refugees...no realization of the PROs you would obtain from compromise whether it be a right that you have lost or not is a sign of your stupidity...you continue to bash your head against the brick wall thinking it will cave in and give you all you demand when they only thing that you will get for sure is brain damage and ultimately death not knowing exactly how stupid you were.
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