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Postby Talisker » Sun Dec 06, 2009 1:45 am

I understand the Ghurbeties are Muslim gypsies in Cyprus who speak their own language (Ghurbetcha). Not easy to find out more about these people - in fact 'Ghurbeties' is a Googlewhack with the single website listed as follows:
http://www.millifolklor.com/tr/sayfalar/82/13_.pdf
Anyone able to provide further information on Ghurbeties?
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Dec 06, 2009 1:46 am

All Gypsy related matters should be directed to Y-Fronts... 8)
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Postby Talisker » Sun Dec 06, 2009 1:48 am

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Postby Phill » Sun Dec 06, 2009 1:49 am

Get Real! wrote:All Gypsy related matters should be directed to Y-Fronts... 8)

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Oracle » Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:23 am

Get Real! wrote:All Gypsy related matters should be directed to Y-Fronts... 8)


Older members of the community described their sadness that their children had moved to London, married British partners and now claimed to be "Turkish-Cypriot", rather than Ghurbeti. Linguistically, this younger group has almost entirely "lost" the Khurbetçý language with few recognising any words .


That explains a lot ... especially that hisssing sound he makes.
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Postby Talisker » Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:52 am

Another link with further info (from 1986):
http://www.domresearchcenter.com/reprints/body4.html
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Postby Talisker » Sun Dec 06, 2009 12:09 pm

The Cypriot Roma / Gypsies and the Failure of Education:
Anti-Discrimination and Multiculturalism as a Post-accession Challenge
By Corina Demetriou and Nicos Trimikliniotis,
RECONCILIATION RESEACH AND POLICY PAPER
(SYMFILIOSI /ULUŞMA)
Paper for conference:
The Minorities of Cyprus: Past, Present and Future
24-25 November 2007
http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:kJ ... ebsite.doc

This is a comprehensive review providing a lot of useful information about gypsies in Cyprus and basically points out that like many societies Cypriots have a prejudicial 'not in my backyard' attitude to the presence of gypsies - we see exactly the same in the UK.
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Dec 06, 2009 12:38 pm

Talisker wrote:The Cypriot Roma / Gypsies and the Failure of Education:

It looks like you're the only one interested in Gypsies... :?
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Postby Talisker » Sun Dec 06, 2009 12:56 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Talisker wrote:The Cypriot Roma / Gypsies and the Failure of Education:

It looks like you're the only one interested in Gypsies... :?

Yes, everyone only gets interested in gypsies when they appear in their neighbourhood! :? If I recall correctly there is reference to gypsies in Gerald Durrell's books (My family and other animals, Birds, beast and relatives, etc) from 1930s Corfu so guess I shouldn't be surprised to find there are gypsies in Cyprus. I stumbled upon the references when looking for something else last night - late night 'projects' followed up on Sunday morning - just a stalling tactic on my part to prevent me commencing some 'real' work I have to do today. :( Time to drop the gypsy interest. :lol:

Wondered if there was now a case for a TTF :shock: - will TCs accept possible claims from Ghurbeties for 'political equality' above minority rights? :roll:
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