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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Dec 06, 2009 4:26 pm

Malapapa wrote:
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Paphitis wrote:
kafenes wrote:On the subject of symbols, here is how Turkey got the symbol on their flag.




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A coin from an ancient Greek Byzantine city where Constantinople stands today.


So nothing has changed. :?

They steal our lands, homes, and symbols!

Thanks Kafenes.


I am afraid GR beat Kafenes by two years. A similar Byzant was posted two years ago.


It's hardly the revelation of the century. Unless you went to YFred's school.


You dont know what you are talking about. It must be the smell of the Sunday roast. :lol:
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Postby boomerang » Sun Dec 06, 2009 4:29 pm

boomerang wrote:are you saying that b25 and I are the same person?...care to back up this claim with a lets say a wager?...or you gonna back out and always be remembered as the knucklehead of the forum...


I see knucklehead has left the building.... :lol:
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Postby Malapapa » Sun Dec 06, 2009 4:44 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
kafenes wrote:On the subject of symbols, here is how Turkey got the symbol on their flag.




Image


A coin from an ancient Greek Byzantine city where Constantinople stands today.


So nothing has changed. :?

They steal our lands, homes, and symbols!

Thanks Kafenes.


I am afraid GR beat Kafenes by two years. A similar Byzant was posted two years ago.


It's hardly the revelation of the century. Unless you went to YFred's school.


You dont know what you are talking about. It must be the smell of the Sunday roast. :lol:

:?:
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Postby YFred » Sun Dec 06, 2009 4:48 pm

boomerang wrote:
boomerang wrote:are you saying that b25 and I are the same person?...care to back up this claim with a lets say a wager?...or you gonna back out and always be remembered as the knucklehead of the forum...


I see knucklehead has left the building.... :lol:

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Postby Talisker » Sun Dec 06, 2009 5:12 pm

To me GCs don't appear any more nationalistic in terms of flag-waving than any other Europeans. However, TCs seem different in this respect.

Are the Turkish flags on the mountainside directed at TCs or GCs? In other words - to instill pride and (Turkish) nationalism in TCs or simply to antagonise GCs?

Should reunification occur there would be no need for either, so presumably the mountainsides would be cleansed of this graffiti?

Did TCs show similar enthusiasm for flags and symbols of their identity back in the earlier part of the 20th century - or is this a direct product of conflict and division?
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Postby YFred » Sun Dec 06, 2009 5:24 pm

Talisker wrote:To me GCs don't appear any more nationalistic in terms of flag-waving than any other Europeans. However, TCs seem different in this respect.

Are the Turkish flags on the mountainside directed at TCs or GCs? In other words - to instill pride and (Turkish) nationalism in TCs or simply to antagonise GCs?

Should reunification occur there would be no need for either, so presumably the mountainsides would be cleansed of this graffiti?

Did TCs show similar enthusiasm for flags and symbols of their identity back in the earlier part of the 20th century - or is this a direct product of conflict and division?

FYI - pre 1963 TCs didn't care for religion or flags. After the GCs attempted to annihilate them, is when the Turksihness surfaced. The genie is out of the bottle.
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Postby Malapapa » Sun Dec 06, 2009 5:37 pm

Talisker wrote:To me GCs don't appear any more nationalistic in terms of flag-waving than any other Europeans. However, TCs seem different in this respect.


I can't speak for TCs (actually nor can TCs... Turkey does that for them). But their relationship to their national flag(s) appears to be reminiscent of Germany circa 1930s.
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Postby YFred » Sun Dec 06, 2009 5:43 pm

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Talisker wrote:To me GCs don't appear any more nationalistic in terms of flag-waving than any other Europeans. However, TCs seem different in this respect.


I can't speak for TCs (actually nor can TCs... Turkey does that for them). But their relationship to their national flag(s) appears to be reminiscent of Germany circa 1930s.

Don't you worry your little brain old chap. When TCs have something to say, the will. It want be long now. In April either they will give you hug or the monodachtilo. One thing for sure though is that they will speak their mind.
Have a nice pleasant Sunday afternoon.
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Postby Oracle » Sun Dec 06, 2009 5:54 pm

Talisker wrote:To me GCs don't appear any more nationalistic in terms of flag-waving than any other Europeans. However, TCs seem different in this respect.

Are the Turkish flags on the mountainside directed at TCs or GCs? In other words - to instill pride and (Turkish) nationalism in TCs or simply to antagonise GCs?

Should reunification occur there would be no need for either, so presumably the mountainsides would be cleansed of this graffiti?

Did TCs show similar enthusiasm for flags and symbols of their identity back in the earlier part of the 20th century - or is this a direct product of conflict and division?


Talisker, the British had banned the flying of the Greek flag back in the early part of the 20th Century. A young GC boy of 15 was outlawed and then executed for trying to raise one in the mid-50's. Similarly, the Turks shot and killed an unarmed civilian for trying to lower the Turkish flag, just a few years ago.

In 1958 Turkish Cypriots, who were ancillaries to the British whilst GCs fought for freedom, became angry by British conciliation and began their demands for partition. That is why the TCs never cared for any flags, not even the RoC flag, chosen because it was designed by a TC, to appease them ... nope, the TCs were never happy until they could fly their Turkish flags.

The Greek Cypriots have never really been allowed to fly a flag which 100% represents them ... even at the time when they felt the Greek Flag was their only voice ....
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Dec 06, 2009 5:54 pm

YFred wrote:
Talisker wrote:To me GCs don't appear any more nationalistic in terms of flag-waving than any other Europeans. However, TCs seem different in this respect.

Are the Turkish flags on the mountainside directed at TCs or GCs? In other words - to instill pride and (Turkish) nationalism in TCs or simply to antagonise GCs?

Should reunification occur there would be no need for either, so presumably the mountainsides would be cleansed of this graffiti?

Did TCs show similar enthusiasm for flags and symbols of their identity back in the earlier part of the 20th century - or is this a direct product of conflict and division?

FYI - pre 1963 TCs didn't care for religion or flags. After the GCs attempted to annihilate them, is when the Turksihness surfaced. The genie is out of the bottle.



I agree with Yfred here. At ceremonies commemorating the 19th May, 23rd April, 29th October, I was always surprised at the very low number of Turkish flags we would carry. This was in comparison the what we often saw of GC meetings and demonstrations. The place would be awash with Greek flags. We were taught to be proud of 'our' flag but this would not be reflected in the numbers. I do however have a photo of me carrying a gigantic Turkish flag. I think it was carried by eight students. Pre-1960.

The ones on the mountains are nothing but 'provocation' to the GC's.
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