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Postby Tim Drayton » Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:38 pm

Expatkiwi wrote:KKK?!! Cross Burnings?!! White Robes?!! Lynchings?!! Folks, you've seen too many old movies. Now you're becoming laughable. You people say that the Turkish view of Cyprus is wrong and I need to come over to see for myself. Well, in the wake of your accusations, I'm going to suggest that y'all come to Arkansas to see for yourselves... Cuts both ways , you now.

By the way, Mr. Drayton, You're the real racist here for using the 'N' word on this forum.


By the way, Mr [whatever your real name is], according to the Klu Klux Klan's own website:

http://www.kukluxklan.bz/contact.html

the organisation's head office is located at:

National Office, P.O. Box 862, Compton Arkansas 72624

so are we really being rediculous?

And before you start resorting to Oracle-style arguments along the lines of 'you are accessing racist websites so you must be a racist', it is OK in my book to refer to such material in order to get information to fight racism, as it is OK to parody the speech of racists in order to satirise and ridicule them. The last point should not be lost on a published author.
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Postby Tim Drayton » Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:54 pm

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This picture depicts the lynching of African American John Carter and a portion of the lynch mob in Little Rock (Pulaski County), May 1927.

Do you deny that at one time this kind of incident took place in Arkansas? Do you condemn or condone such acts?

If you condemn an extrajudicial killing commited in the USA in 1927, on what basis do you excuse the extrajudicial killing of a Greek Cypriot youth in Cyprus in 1996?
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Postby Kikapu » Thu Dec 10, 2009 6:04 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:KKK?!! Cross Burnings?!! White Robes?!! Lynchings?!! Folks, you've seen too many old movies. Now you're becoming laughable. You people say that the Turkish view of Cyprus is wrong and I need to come over to see for myself. Well, in the wake of your accusations, I'm going to suggest that y'all come to Arkansas to see for yourselves... Cuts both ways , you now.

By the way, Mr. Drayton, You're the real racist here for using the 'N' word on this forum.


By the way, Mr [whatever your real name is], according to the Klu Klux Klan's own website:

http://www.kukluxklan.bz/contact.html

the organisation's head office is located at:

National Office, P.O. Box 862, Compton Arkansas 72624

so are we really being rediculous?

And before you start resorting to Oracle-style arguments along the lines of 'you are accessing racist websites so you must be a racist', it is OK in my book to refer to such material in order to get information to fight racism, as it is OK to parody the speech of racists in order to satirise and ridicule them. The last point should not be lost on a published author.


Tim,

Don't pay any attention to Expat, because your use of the word "Nigger" was in a context to make a point. This does not make a person a racist but only those who use that word out of context. The amount of Fascistic and Racist attitude Expat had demonstrated here on the forum against Human Rights and Democracy, I'm sure he has earned his position being the Grand Marshall at the next KKK parade down the main street of Campton, Arkansas.!
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Postby Expatkiwi » Thu Dec 10, 2009 6:18 pm

You folk are truly laughable! First, while lynchings did happen in this state, and Arkansas used to practice Jim Crow laws, that is ancient f####ng history! This state has come a long way since those old days of segregation and bigotry. And now you say I went to Arkansas to get involved in that kind of thing?!! This is getting worse than laughable! How does 'pathetic' sound?
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Postby Tim Drayton » Thu Dec 10, 2009 6:28 pm

Expatkiwi wrote:You folk are truly laughable! First, while lynchings did happen in this state, and Arkansas used to practice Jim Crow laws, that is ancient f####ng history! This state has come a long way since those old days of segregation and bigotry. And now you say I went to Arkansas to get involved in that kind of thing?!! This is getting worse than laughable! How does 'pathetic' sound?


Exactly, and I want to live in a Cyprus where I can say, "in the past there were occasions when people murdered members of the other community with impunity - and thank heavens that is ancient f####ng history!"
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Postby B25 » Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:15 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:KKK?!! Cross Burnings?!! White Robes?!! Lynchings?!! Folks, you've seen too many old movies. Now you're becoming laughable. You people say that the Turkish view of Cyprus is wrong and I need to come over to see for myself. Well, in the wake of your accusations, I'm going to suggest that y'all come to Arkansas to see for yourselves... Cuts both ways , you now.

By the way, Mr. Drayton, You're the real racist here for using the 'N' word on this forum.


By the way, Mr [whatever your real name is], according to the Klu Klux Klan's own website:

http://www.kukluxklan.bz/contact.html

the organisation's head office is located at:

National Office, P.O. Box 862, Compton Arkansas 72624

so are we really being rediculous?

And before you start resorting to Oracle-style arguments along the lines of 'you are accessing racist websites so you must be a racist', it is OK in my book to refer to such material in order to get information to fight racism, as it is OK to parody the speech of racists in order to satirise and ridicule them. The last point should not be lost on a published author.


His name is Dean Thomas.

I'm an expatriate New Zealander now living in the United States (first California, now Arkansas). I suppose that means I'm a Kiwi CalArkansan!
I'm middle-aged (mid 40's), yet I still love to watch certain cartoons. Fairly Odd Parents, Danny Phantom, The Simpsons, Family Guy, Kim Possible.

http://expatkiwi.deviantart.com/

And thats his mental ability for you. No good argueing with him, just wasting good posts. He is hell bent of fighting the TCs cause (at a price probably), he has no connections with TCs other than a pen friend Denktash. Perhaps Mr Denktash is considering gifting him some STOLEN GC property.

Way to go Tim.
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Postby Kikapu » Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:35 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:You folk are truly laughable! First, while lynchings did happen in this state, and Arkansas used to practice Jim Crow laws, that is ancient f####ng history! This state has come a long way since those old days of segregation and bigotry. And now you say I went to Arkansas to get involved in that kind of thing?!! This is getting worse than laughable! How does 'pathetic' sound?


Exactly, and I want to live in a Cyprus where I can say, "in the past there were occasions when people murdered members of the other community with impunity - and thank heavens that is ancient f####ng history!"


Now, that's what I call Check, Mate and a F####ng Game.!

Well done, Tim. Nicely executed.!
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Postby Expatkiwi » Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:28 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:You folk are truly laughable! First, while lynchings did happen in this state, and Arkansas used to practice Jim Crow laws, that is ancient f####ng history! This state has come a long way since those old days of segregation and bigotry. And now you say I went to Arkansas to get involved in that kind of thing?!! This is getting worse than laughable! How does 'pathetic' sound?


Exactly, and I want to live in a Cyprus where I can say, "in the past there were occasions when people murdered members of the other community with impunity - and thank heavens that is ancient f####ng history!"


You think that's not going to happen again? Personally speaking, that's not all that likely. After all, cars with TRNC plates have been attacked by Greek Cypriots in the south... not exactly a good omen, is it?
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Postby Expatkiwi » Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:33 pm

B25 wrote:
His name is Dean Thomas.

I'm an expatriate New Zealander now living in the United States (first California, now Arkansas). I suppose that means I'm a Kiwi CalArkansan!
I'm middle-aged (mid 40's), yet I still love to watch certain cartoons. Fairly Odd Parents, Danny Phantom, The Simpsons, Family Guy, Kim Possible.

http://expatkiwi.deviantart.com/

And thats his mental ability for you. No good argueing with him, just wasting good posts. He is hell bent of fighting the TCs cause (at a price probably), he has no connections with TCs other than a pen friend Denktash. Perhaps Mr Denktash is considering gifting him some STOLEN GC property.

Way to go Tim.


Uh, no. Mr. Denktash has promised me nothing of the kind. I did get an autographed pic of him though...
Anyway, why does the fact that I still like to watch cartoons make me suspect? Considering all the other stuff on television these days, light entertainment makes for a welcome diversion.
Also, I have more than Mr. Denktash as a friend and contact in TRNC, Mitch.
Am I getting so much of a threat to you that you have to resort to such tactics? I should be flattered, but I'll try and keep things in perspective...
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Postby Paphitis » Fri Dec 11, 2009 4:08 am

vaughanwilliams wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
vaughanwilliams wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_passionel


Solomou case was cold blooded, premeditated murder . In-excusable. Stop trying to justify it and condemn it for what it was.

Unless ofcourse you are being helpful to the debate by providing a definition for Crime of Passion.

Cold blooded - maybe, pre-meditated - not at all.
It was more the Wiki reference to "temporary insanity" as a defence for a crime of passion that I was drawing attention to. I can't speak for TRNC but many nations see the "desecration" of national flags as a huge insult (viz US and/or UK flags being burnt in public demonstrations). I wonder how these same people would react to seeing their own flag thus "desecrated"? Would it drive them to acts of similar violence whilst enraged or "temporarily insane"?


The US and UK behave like civilised nations where the Human Rights of their citizens are respected.

It is considered a diplomatic right for citizens to burn their own flag during public demonstrations. The worst thing that could happen is that the demonstrators could get arrested for disturbing the peace or for some other lame charge. They will then be released on bail, to appear in court. Charges could either be thrown out, or the defendant might be required to pay a small fine.

The US and UK do not commit murder over their flag and that is a fact.

The Greek Flag and RoC Flag have been desecrated many times, especially during student demonstrations. No one is even arrested for doing this. So I don't know what your getting at. :?
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