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Postby Talisker » Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:11 am

denizaksulu wrote:
Talisker wrote:Yikes! My thread has been violated. :shock:



Its all these 'devshirme's'. It must be traditional. :lol:

I'll take your word for it..........
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Postby denizaksulu » Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:17 am

Talisker wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Talisker wrote:Yikes! My thread has been violated. :shock:



Its all these 'devshirme's'. It must be traditional. :lol:

I'll take your word for it..........



Thats settled then :lol:
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Postby Talisker » Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:21 am

denizaksulu wrote:
Talisker wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Talisker wrote:Yikes! My thread has been violated. :shock:



Its all these 'devshirme's'. It must be traditional. :lol:

I'll take your word for it..........



Thats settled then :lol:

Not my specialist area! :?
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Postby Expatkiwi » Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:05 am

Doesn't matter though: THe TRNC flag still flies proudly, and I think it's a pretty neat-looking flag.
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Postby Paphitis » Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:33 am

Expatkiwi wrote:Doesn't matter though: THe TRNC flag still flies proudly, and I think it's a pretty neat-looking flag.


Too bad New Zealand doesn't recognise it and NEVER will! :lol:

That should tell you something!
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Postby vaughanwilliams » Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:38 am

Never say "Never". It can only make you look silly later.
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Postby Paphitis » Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:58 am

vaughanwilliams wrote:Never say "Never". It can only make you look silly later.


Delusions of granduer have made you ALL look silly for 35 years now.

I think it is pretty safe to say New Zealand won't EVER recogniise the 'trnc'.
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Postby Kikapu » Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:10 pm

For one thing, the Statues of Atatürk needs to be removed from all public places since he has zero relationship with Cyprus. Those who want to worship him, they can do so in their homes and private clubs as well as keep his statue.

As for the selection of state flags, having neutral flags will be the best way to go, but if some degree of the "trnc" flag should remain for the north state and some degree of the flag of Greece should remain for the south state, then I suggest we do the following since no doubt there will be separations of State and Religion provisions that will be installed in the Federal and the State Constitutions.

The north state can have their own flag as the case is with all Federation state countries, but all religious symbols must be removed from them. Since the north will have majority TCs, they can keep the basic outlines of the "trnc" flag minus the crescent and the star since it has a strong attachment to the religion of Islam as the case is with most Muslim countries who seem to have similar flags. This will be seen as a neutral flag by others living in the north, primarily by large numbers of GCs in relationship to other foreigners living in the north.

For the south state, majority being GCs, they can keep the flag from Greece if they want, as long as the cross is removed from the top left corner for all the same reasons I gave above, the difference being representative of Christianity and not Islam.

The flag of Cyprus can remain as what it is today with perhaps adding another olive branch to it if need be to differentiate it from the one we have today, which will fly in both states along with the state and the EU flags.
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Postby vaughanwilliams » Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:31 pm

Kikapu wrote:For one thing, the Statues of Atatürk needs to be removed from all public places since he has zero relationship with Cyprus. Those who want to worship him, they can do so in their homes and private clubs as well as keep his statue.

As for the selection of state flags, having neutral flags will be the best way to go, but if some degree of the "trnc" flag should remain for the north state and some degree of the flag of Greece should remain for the south state, then I suggest we do the following since no doubt there will be separations of State and Religion provisions that will be installed in the Federal and the State Constitutions.

The north state can have their own flag as the case is with all Federation state countries, but all religious symbols must be removed from them. Since the north will have majority TCs, they can keep the basic outlines of the "trnc" flag minus the crescent and the star since it has a strong attachment to the religion of Islam as the case is with most Muslim countries who seem to have similar flags. This will be seen as a neutral flag by others living in the north, primarily by large numbers of GCs in relationship to other foreigners living in the north.

For the south state, majority being GCs, they can keep the flag from Greece if they want, as long as the cross is removed from the top left corner for all the same reasons I gave above, the difference being representative of Christianity and not Islam.

The flag of Cyprus can remain as what it is today with perhaps adding another olive branch to it if need be to differentiate it from the one we have today, which will fly in both states along with the state and the EU flags.

"Since the north will have majority TCs, they can keep the basic outlines of the "trnc" flag minus the crescent and the star....."

Why stop there? Why don't you also suggest that as the TRNC flag and the TR flag are both Red/White, that the TRNC flag removes all remaining symbols which are coloured red?
Let's see then - what would we have left? A white flag with no symbols on it - Bingo!
You have them just where you want them. :D
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Postby Kikapu » Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:55 pm

vaughanwilliams wrote:
Kikapu wrote:For one thing, the Statues of Atatürk needs to be removed from all public places since he has zero relationship with Cyprus. Those who want to worship him, they can do so in their homes and private clubs as well as keep his statue.

As for the selection of state flags, having neutral flags will be the best way to go, but if some degree of the "trnc" flag should remain for the north state and some degree of the flag of Greece should remain for the south state, then I suggest we do the following since no doubt there will be separations of State and Religion provisions that will be installed in the Federal and the State Constitutions.

The north state can have their own flag as the case is with all Federation state countries, but all religious symbols must be removed from them. Since the north will have majority TCs, they can keep the basic outlines of the "trnc" flag minus the crescent and the star since it has a strong attachment to the religion of Islam as the case is with most Muslim countries who seem to have similar flags. This will be seen as a neutral flag by others living in the north, primarily by large numbers of GCs in relationship to other foreigners living in the north.

For the south state, majority being GCs, they can keep the flag from Greece if they want, as long as the cross is removed from the top left corner for all the same reasons I gave above, the difference being representative of Christianity and not Islam.

The flag of Cyprus can remain as what it is today with perhaps adding another olive branch to it if need be to differentiate it from the one we have today, which will fly in both states along with the state and the EU flags.

"Since the north will have majority TCs, they can keep the basic outlines of the "trnc" flag minus the crescent and the star....."

Why stop there? Why don't you also suggest that as the TRNC flag and the TR flag are both Red/White, that the TRNC flag removes all remaining symbols which are coloured red?
Let's see then - what would we have left? A white flag with no symbols on it - Bingo!
You have them just where you want them. :D


VW, don't be an idiot, or else I'll treat you as one.! :idea:

First of all, how does the colours Red and White have any relevance to any religion.? Well, it does not, therefore any combination of White and Red can be accepted. In place of where the Crescent and the Star is located on the "trnc" flag, there can be the outlined shape of the north state placed there and the south can have the outlined south state where the cross appears on the flag of Greece. As I've said, we can have a more neutral flags for both north and the south states, but if there needs to be any remnants of the present flags used mostly in the north and the south, then the above suggestions could satisfy both sides without violating the separations of State and Religion provisions in the Federal and State Constitutions.
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