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Postby Talisker » Sun Dec 06, 2009 7:27 pm

YFred wrote:
Talisker wrote:To me GCs don't appear any more nationalistic in terms of flag-waving than any other Europeans. However, TCs seem different in this respect.

Are the Turkish flags on the mountainside directed at TCs or GCs? In other words - to instill pride and (Turkish) nationalism in TCs or simply to antagonise GCs?

Should reunification occur there would be no need for either, so presumably the mountainsides would be cleansed of this graffiti?

Did TCs show similar enthusiasm for flags and symbols of their identity back in the earlier part of the 20th century - or is this a direct product of conflict and division?

FYI - pre 1963 TCs didn't care for religion or flags. After the GCs attempted to annihilate them, is when the Turksihness surfaced. The genie is out of the bottle.

Your words YFred! Definition of genie: A supernatural creature who does one's bidding when summoned.
http://www.answers.com/topic/genie

Please can you live up to you description of self. :lol:
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Postby Expatkiwi » Sun Dec 06, 2009 7:27 pm

A real pity that the ideals of the 1960 flag were never lived up to...
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Dec 06, 2009 7:59 pm

Oracle wrote:
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Oracle wrote:
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Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote: ... I do however have a photo of me carrying a gigantic Turkish flag. I think it was carried by eight students. Pre-1960.


Lucky you Deniz ... flying the Greek flag was banned by the Brits.

Interesting they "forgot" to ban the Turkish one ....


There was no other flag to identify with Oracle. That was before the republic. The british may have banned the Greek flag but is was largely ignored, wasnt it.


That's irrelevant. What is important here, is why they banned the Greek Flag but not the Turkish flag ....


You really want me to answer that Oracle?

It was the Greek Cypriot nationalists who were giving the Brits hell. The TCs were merely a fly in the ointment; and ofcourse the TCs were their more favoured minority. :lol:


Why were the Greek Cypriots "Nationalists" for simply wanting their Liberty from colonial rule?

The TCs were never a "fly in the ointment" for the Brits, it seems, more a convenient tool ....


Many TCs were also intened in the concentration camps set up by the British. Why do you suppose that happened?...To stop GCs moaning or something?

Alright, I used the wrong word. Shall I use the word 'terrorist' instead, which I have avoided up to now? You are so difficult to please Oracle.
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Postby Oracle » Sun Dec 06, 2009 9:40 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote: ... I do however have a photo of me carrying a gigantic Turkish flag. I think it was carried by eight students. Pre-1960.


Lucky you Deniz ... flying the Greek flag was banned by the Brits.

Interesting they "forgot" to ban the Turkish one ....


There was no other flag to identify with Oracle. That was before the republic. The british may have banned the Greek flag but is was largely ignored, wasnt it.


That's irrelevant. What is important here, is why they banned the Greek Flag but not the Turkish flag ....


You really want me to answer that Oracle?

It was the Greek Cypriot nationalists who were giving the Brits hell. The TCs were merely a fly in the ointment; and ofcourse the TCs were their more favoured minority. :lol:


Why were the Greek Cypriots "Nationalists" for simply wanting their Liberty from colonial rule?

The TCs were never a "fly in the ointment" for the Brits, it seems, more a convenient tool ....


Many TCs were also intened in the concentration camps set up by the British. Why do you suppose that happened?...To stop GCs moaning or something?


The TCs only reacted against the Brits when the Brits were about to reconcile the island. The TCs were ONLY interested in having their OWN part of the island and not interested in Liberty. Like NOW!

Alright, I used the wrong word. Shall I use the word 'terrorist' instead, which I have avoided up to now? You are so difficult to please Oracle.


Why would "terrorist" please me any more than "Nationalist"? Is it so difficult for you to see them for what they were? ... freedom fighters. Would it lead to a painful awakening to the crimes your community committed against this fight for freedom?
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Dec 06, 2009 9:52 pm

Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote: ... I do however have a photo of me carrying a gigantic Turkish flag. I think it was carried by eight students. Pre-1960.


Lucky you Deniz ... flying the Greek flag was banned by the Brits.

Interesting they "forgot" to ban the Turkish one ....


There was no other flag to identify with Oracle. That was before the republic. The british may have banned the Greek flag but is was largely ignored, wasnt it.


That's irrelevant. What is important here, is why they banned the Greek Flag but not the Turkish flag ....


You really want me to answer that Oracle?

It was the Greek Cypriot nationalists who were giving the Brits hell. The TCs were merely a fly in the ointment; and ofcourse the TCs were their more favoured minority. :lol:


Why were the Greek Cypriots "Nationalists" for simply wanting their Liberty from colonial rule?

The TCs were never a "fly in the ointment" for the Brits, it seems, more a convenient tool ....


Many TCs were also intened in the concentration camps set up by the British. Why do you suppose that happened?...To stop GCs moaning or something?


The TCs only reacted against the Brits when the Brits were about to reconcile the island. The TCs were ONLY interested in having their OWN part of the island and not interested in Liberty. Like NOW!

Alright, I used the wrong word. Shall I use the word 'terrorist' instead, which I have avoided up to now? You are so difficult to please Oracle.


Why would "terrorist" please me any more than "Nationalist"? Is it so difficult for you to see them for what they were? ... freedom fighters. Would it lead to a painful awakening to the crimes your community committed against this fight for freedom?



The fact is I did ot use the word 'terrorist'. I am quite happy with the word 'nationalist. Stop complaining gori. :roll:

The word 'ethniki' forms the first word for EOKA; doent that translate as 'National'. Therefore I said 'nationalist'.
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Postby Oracle » Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:02 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Deniz wrote:... It was the Greek Cypriot nationalists who were giving the Brits hell.


The fact is I did ot use the word 'terrorist'. I am quite happy with the word 'nationalist. Stop complaining gori. :roll:

The word 'ethniki' forms the first word for EOKA; doent that translate as 'National'. Therefore I said 'nationalist'.


You conveniently forget the attachment of the "K" for Cyprus. That was the "Nation" they struggled for.
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:42 pm

Oracle wrote:
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Deniz wrote:... It was the Greek Cypriot nationalists who were giving the Brits hell.


The fact is I did ot use the word 'terrorist'. I am quite happy with the word 'nationalist. Stop complaining gori. :roll:

The word 'ethniki' forms the first word for EOKA; doent that translate as 'National'. Therefore I said 'nationalist'.


You conveniently forget the attachment of the "K" for Cyprus. That was the "Nation" they struggled for.


Stop tormenting me O. If you push me into a corner, I will revert back to my youth............. :wink:
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Postby boomerang » Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:14 am

YFred wrote:
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Talisker wrote:To me GCs don't appear any more nationalistic in terms of flag-waving than any other Europeans. However, TCs seem different in this respect.

Are the Turkish flags on the mountainside directed at TCs or GCs? In other words - to instill pride and (Turkish) nationalism in TCs or simply to antagonise GCs?

Should reunification occur there would be no need for either, so presumably the mountainsides would be cleansed of this graffiti?

Did TCs show similar enthusiasm for flags and symbols of their identity back in the earlier part of the 20th century - or is this a direct product of conflict and division?

FYI - pre 1963 TCs didn't care for religion or flags. After the GCs attempted to annihilate them, is when the Turksihness surfaced. The genie is out of the bottle.


are we suppose to take the word of a knucklehead that doesn't know where his mouth starts and his ass finishes?... :lol:

Not at all old chap. You are supposed to take it like the rest of your greek cronies, up the ass.


let us not get carried away old chap...here is your family airloom reflecting a passage in time a day before the otto boys invaded...playing hide the salami with an added bonus of a sournet... :lol:

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Postby Talisker » Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:36 am

Yikes! My thread has been violated. :shock:
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Postby denizaksulu » Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:44 am

Talisker wrote:Yikes! My thread has been violated. :shock:



Its all these 'devshirme's'. It must be traditional. :lol:
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