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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Dec 05, 2009 7:17 pm

Get Real! wrote:
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Viewpoint wrote:Today universites tomorrow hospitals..thats GC mentality...

Shit happens when you're sitting on someone else's property 35 years running.


Nothing compared to the shit we faced living with you guys so bring it on anything is better than being reduced to a minority in a racist Gc state.

The Turkish Cypriots do a fine job at reducing themselves… you don’t need the GCs for that.


Thats why we got rid of you as it would have been a unbearable.
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Dec 05, 2009 7:19 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Today universites tomorrow hospitals..thats GC mentality...

Shit happens when you're sitting on someone else's property 35 years running.


Nothing compared to the shit we faced living with you guys so bring it on anything is better than being reduced to a minority in a racist Gc state.

The Turkish Cypriots do a fine job at reducing themselves… you don’t need the GCs for that.


Thats why we got rid of you as it would have been a unbearable.

So you monopolized self-regression? :lol:
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Postby halil » Sat Dec 05, 2009 7:27 pm

In short,Sovereignty devolved on Cyprus in 1960 through a joint exercise of self-determination by the two communities and reposed in them jointly.There was no basis on which it could be said that either of the two communities was sovereign and other was not or that one community enjoyed sovereignty or legal control over other.

This constitutional arrangment ,apatly described as ''functional federation'' of two distinct national and poltical communities that happened at that time to live interspersed,is not without parellel in international experince.In Belgium for example,where the flemish-speaking community constitutes about 60% of the population and french-speaking community about 40%the constituation stipulates that the cabinet must be equally divided among Flemish and french ministers and that certain laws cannot be passed without seperate majority votes by each national group in each chamber of the legislature.See articles 1, 38bis and 86bis of the Belgian Constituation.In addition ,the constitution quarantees to the Flemish,French,and German-speaking communities the right to legislate sepertely on matters of personal status,language,social life and education article 59 bis as ammanded in 1980 and 1988.

Begining with the GC president!s attempt in 1963 to amend the constitution to eliminate the polt,cal equality of TC community,the unity that should have marked the operation of constitution was broken.Upon the unilateral denunciation by the GC community of the legal basis on which the joint exercise of sovereignty by 2 communities in cyprus was predicated,the constitution of 60 self-evidently ceased to be operative and the ''ROC'' as constituted by the 2 communties ceased to exist.From 1964 onwards the 2 communities developed increasingly seperate political and economic administrations and settlements,a process which culminated in 1975 with complete regrouping of the 2 communities in cyprus into two geographically and administratively separate areas. a situation which is reflected in the exchange of population agreement of 2 august 1975.This fundemental condition was recognized in 1974 by the foreign ministers of Bratain,Greece and Turkey in their Geneva Declaration of 30 July in which jointly called for''The reestblishment of constitutional goverment of Cyprus'' and ''an immediate return to constituational legitimacy'' In doing so,
The ministers noted that existence in practice on ROC of two autonomous adminstration,that of the GC community and that of thr TC community.

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Postby Oracle » Sat Dec 05, 2009 7:51 pm

halil wrote: ... letter will continue


Don't bother. That's not a "letter", you are just rewriting history according to Turks.

The only things which matter here, are what this "University's" links to the illegal "trnc" regime entail and the use of stolen GC properties; and MOST of all, the fact that GCs are specifically, racially excluded from the "trnc" and hence from this set-up calling itself a "University". There are strict UK/EU guidelines for such matters .... I'm sure these will speak for themselves. Those guidelines, you cannot change!

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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Dec 05, 2009 8:06 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Today universites tomorrow hospitals..thats GC mentality...

Shit happens when you're sitting on someone else's property 35 years running.


Nothing compared to the shit we faced living with you guys so bring it on anything is better than being reduced to a minority in a racist Gc state.

The Turkish Cypriots do a fine job at reducing themselves… you don’t need the GCs for that.


Thats why we got rid of you as it would have been a unbearable.

So you monopolized self-regression? :lol:


Same can be said for your Gc state but no we have our safe haven well away from you people. GR I will repeat do you understand or comprehend that we accept a thousand times worse conditions than you think we suffer than be forced into what you have in store for us? when will you catch onto this?
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Dec 05, 2009 9:25 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Today universites tomorrow hospitals..thats GC mentality...

Shit happens when you're sitting on someone else's property 35 years running.


Nothing compared to the shit we faced living with you guys so bring it on anything is better than being reduced to a minority in a racist Gc state.

The Turkish Cypriots do a fine job at reducing themselves… you don’t need the GCs for that.


Thats why we got rid of you as it would have been a unbearable.

So you monopolized self-regression? :lol:


Same can be said for your Gc state but no we have our safe haven well away from you people. GR I will repeat do you understand or comprehend that we accept a thousand times worse conditions than you think we suffer than be forced into what you have in store for us? when will you catch onto this?

VP, I couldn’t care less if you decide to live in a sewer just as long as it’s not the one in my back yard.
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Postby halil » Sat Dec 05, 2009 9:31 pm

halil wrote:In short,Sovereignty devolved on Cyprus in 1960 through a joint exercise of self-determination by the two communities and reposed in them jointly.There was no basis on which it could be said that either of the two communities was sovereign and other was not or that one community enjoyed sovereignty or legal control over other.

This constitutional arrangment ,apatly described as ''functional federation'' of two distinct national and poltical communities that happened at that time to live interspersed,is not without parellel in international experince.In Belgium for example,where the flemish-speaking community constitutes about 60% of the population and french-speaking community about 40%the constituation stipulates that the cabinet must be equally divided among Flemish and french ministers and that certain laws cannot be passed without seperate majority votes by each national group in each chamber of the legislature.See articles 1, 38bis and 86bis of the Belgian Constituation.In addition ,the constitution quarantees to the Flemish,French,and German-speaking communities the right to legislate sepertely on matters of personal status,language,social life and education article 59 bis as ammanded in 1980 and 1988.

Begining with the GC president!s attempt in 1963 to amend the constitution to eliminate the polt,cal equality of TC community,the unity that should have marked the operation of constitution was broken.Upon the unilateral denunciation by the GC community of the legal basis on which the joint exercise of sovereignty by 2 communities in cyprus was predicated,the constitution of 60 self-evidently ceased to be operative and the ''ROC'' as constituted by the 2 communties ceased to exist.From 1964 onwards the 2 communities developed increasingly seperate political and economic administrations and settlements,a process which culminated in 1975 with complete regrouping of the 2 communities in cyprus into two geographically and administratively separate areas. a situation which is reflected in the exchange of population agreement of 2 august 1975.This fundemental condition was recognized in 1974 by the foreign ministers of Bratain,Greece and Turkey in their Geneva Declaration of 30 July in which jointly called for''The reestblishment of constitutional goverment of Cyprus'' and ''an immediate return to constituational legitimacy'' In doing so,
The ministers noted that existence in practice on ROC of two autonomous adminstration,that of the GC community and that of thr TC community.

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Here is the more from rest of the letter ...........

The''ROC''being no longer constitutionally or factually able to exercise sovereignty over the whole island was divided and thereafter reverted to authority actually control of each of the two territories:The Gc community in the south and The TC community in the north.

The fact that GC community in the south has continued to operate under the title ROC is no more than a matter of nomenclature;it does not and canot accord the Gc community a sovereignty in the north which it does not have the power to exercise.Nor can any such sovereignity result from any international recognition of the GC community as the ''ROC''correspondingly,The presence of Turkish forces in the north does not deprive the TC community of actual power and jurisdiction ,amounting in effect to sovereignity,which it exercises,and has since 1974 continously and without effective challenge exercised,there.The Goverment of Turkey recon-gnizes the TC community in the north as the sovereign goverment of the area,does not claim for itself or exercise power in the area,and expressly denies that northern Cyprus is part of Turkey.The absence of general de jure international recognition of the status of the TC community under the name of the TRNC cannot deprive that community of the soverignty which as an indisputable matter of fact,it exercises in Northern Cyprus.
A sutiation that is reflected in the extensive de facto relations that foreign states maintain with that community ...............
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Dec 05, 2009 9:35 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Today universites tomorrow hospitals..thats GC mentality...

Shit happens when you're sitting on someone else's property 35 years running.


Nothing compared to the shit we faced living with you guys so bring it on anything is better than being reduced to a minority in a racist Gc state.

The Turkish Cypriots do a fine job at reducing themselves… you don’t need the GCs for that.


Thats why we got rid of you as it would have been a unbearable.

So you monopolized self-regression? :lol:


Same can be said for your Gc state but no we have our safe haven well away from you people. GR I will repeat do you understand or comprehend that we accept a thousand times worse conditions than you think we suffer than be forced into what you have in store for us? when will you catch onto this?

VP, I couldn’t care less if you decide to live in a sewer just as long as it’s not the one in my back yard.


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Postby Get Real! » Sat Dec 05, 2009 9:35 pm

Halil, that letter is better suited for the gossip column in “Woman’s Own”!

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Postby Oracle » Sat Dec 05, 2009 10:16 pm

halil wrote: Here is the more lies, lies, lies, lies, lies lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies, lies from rest of the letter ...........


Thank you halil, I am sure the good Mayor has got your (lying) drift ...
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