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[YFred]

If this woman lives in the UK and she does not live or profit from illegally acquired property in the occupied part of Cyprus then she should be given her own property back immediately.

I believe that this part of the Cyprus Problem should be solved in the courts, in the ECHR if needed, so every Cypriot gets his own property back and is allowed to live in it and enjoy it in peace.

Some said that the Cyprus problem is political and not legal. I disagree. I believe that many aspects of the Cyprus problem are legal, and that solving these legal problems will also force a correct political solution that will not come at the expense of the legal, human or democratic rights of any Cypriot citizen.

There are many TCs that reside in the UK that have tried to cliam their properties in the GC south only to be turned away saying the bankrupt guardian will not pay out or return property until a solution have been found. Maybe Piratis you can explain to us how living in the south for 6 month proves people have not double dipped, dont the GCs have to work with the TCs to get informaiton from our land regsitry offices, how does this actually work? and dont you think it is discriminative as GC still cliam the island is one whole which they represent and exchanged land is null and void?

The RoC attitude on the property issue of UK residents is strictly controlled. They (the TCs have to prove that they have lived in the UK continually since before the events of 1974. You must show evidence of this (paid NI contributions ,salary slips -continuous). Some have tried and failed because they have 'lived' in Cyprus (even for short periods). Some have been 'double-dippers' as well. The RoC have ways to check the authentic cases as it has been proven in the past that fraudulent cases have appeared.

Do you support the GC stance on property? that TCs have to live in the south for 6 months in order to earn a right to claim their property through Gc courts???

I see no other choice under the circumstances. Allowing all TCs (those already resident in the North) the right to claim their properties in the south
would be a nightmare for the Legal RoC Land Registry. How do you suppose they would be able to cope with the 'double dipping'.

Defintely not; I do not support that they live in the RoC for 6 months. Perhaps it is their way of minimising 'double dipping', but then that does not make sense either. I think that rule is there to dam up the floodgates of TC claimants. The Land Registry cant cope as it is. You are aware of the backlog. BTW, I have also discovered my property rights on land I never knew existed (RoC Land Registry). The kochans awere still under the name of my greatgrandmother. Now they have reverted to me.

That says we assume you are guilty and this is what you have to do if you want to prove your innocence. First of all that is no proof of innocence and secondly it goes against any justice system. The GCs can't have it both ways.
Its plain and simple fruking wrong. Please excuse my french.

Yfred, when I do on-line banking, I have to prove who I am and what I am before any transaction can take place.

The RoC have to prevent fraud, as they will become unstuck.

That's because you are on line and all it takes is the password you offered. The two can't be compared. All they have to do is ask the UN to supply the info from the TRNC. Who has been given what. At least try to make an effort to help the tc who have not esdegered. It aint that diffuclt to do instead of the policy they have which should be illegal under any law.

[B25]

So, tell why you should even expect to be able to reclaim your properties now when you don't provide the same options to the GCs??

It is just typical of you TCs want, want, want, you give nothing in return, you wouldn't even consider minority rights for the minorities amongst you nor the Kurds in Turkey, you are just greddy F Bastards.

IMO, our government is crap at their job and too soft. they should just be telling you all to sod off.

Bloody check. Come on, you assume the GCs (ordinary people) guilty, you don't prove innocence yet you expect special treatment for yours.

Isn't this what this is all about? You wanting the (and to quote another forumer) ottoman style privalages at our expense, well as Yjocks always says, you know what you can do with them, right????

[denizaksulu]

If this woman lives in the UK and she does not live or profit from illegally acquired property in the occupied part of Cyprus then she should be given her own property back immediately.

I believe that this part of the Cyprus Problem should be solved in the courts, in the ECHR if needed, so every Cypriot gets his own property back and is allowed to live in it and enjoy it in peace.

Some said that the Cyprus problem is political and not legal. I disagree. I believe that many aspects of the Cyprus problem are legal, and that solving these legal problems will also force a correct political solution that will not come at the expense of the legal, human or democratic rights of any Cypriot citizen.

There are many TCs that reside in the UK that have tried to cliam their properties in the GC south only to be turned away saying the bankrupt guardian will not pay out or return property until a solution have been found. Maybe Piratis you can explain to us how living in the south for 6 month proves people have not double dipped, dont the GCs have to work with the TCs to get informaiton from our land regsitry offices, how does this actually work? and dont you think it is discriminative as GC still cliam the island is one whole which they represent and exchanged land is null and void?

The RoC attitude on the property issue of UK residents is strictly controlled. They (the TCs have to prove that they have lived in the UK continually since before the events of 1974. You must show evidence of this (paid NI contributions ,salary slips -continuous). Some have tried and failed because they have 'lived' in Cyprus (even for short periods). Some have been 'double-dippers' as well. The RoC have ways to check the authentic cases as it has been proven in the past that fraudulent cases have appeared.

Do you support the GC stance on property? that TCs have to live in the south for 6 months in order to earn a right to claim their property through Gc courts???

I see no other choice under the circumstances. Allowing all TCs (those already resident in the North) the right to claim their properties in the south
would be a nightmare for the Legal RoC Land Registry. How do you suppose they would be able to cope with the 'double dipping'.

Defintely not; I do not support that they live in the RoC for 6 months. Perhaps it is their way of minimising 'double dipping', but then that does not make sense either. I think that rule is there to dam up the floodgates of TC claimants. The Land Registry cant cope as it is. You are aware of the backlog. BTW, I have also discovered my property rights on land I never knew existed (RoC Land Registry). The kochans awere still under the name of my greatgrandmother. Now they have reverted to me.

That says we assume you are guilty and this is what you have to do if you want to prove your innocence. First of all that is no proof of innocence and secondly it goes against any justice system. The GCs can't have it both ways.
Its plain and simple fruking wrong. Please excuse my french.

Yfred, when I do on-line banking, I have to prove who I am and what I am before any transaction can take place.

The RoC have to prevent fraud, as they will become unstuck.

That's because you are on line and all it takes is the password you offered. The two can't be compared. All they have to do is ask the UN to supply the info from the TRNC. Who has been given what. At least try to make an effort to help the tc who have not esdegered. It aint that diffuclt to do instead of the policy they have which should be illegal under any law.

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Lets hope something on that line happens so the rights of TC refugees are met. You and Oracle are one of a kind........so so...I forgot what I was going to say now.

[YFred]

If this woman lives in the UK and she does not live or profit from illegally acquired property in the occupied part of Cyprus then she should be given her own property back immediately.

I believe that this part of the Cyprus Problem should be solved in the courts, in the ECHR if needed, so every Cypriot gets his own property back and is allowed to live in it and enjoy it in peace.

Some said that the Cyprus problem is political and not legal. I disagree. I believe that many aspects of the Cyprus problem are legal, and that solving these legal problems will also force a correct political solution that will not come at the expense of the legal, human or democratic rights of any Cypriot citizen.

There are many TCs that reside in the UK that have tried to cliam their properties in the GC south only to be turned away saying the bankrupt guardian will not pay out or return property until a solution have been found. Maybe Piratis you can explain to us how living in the south for 6 month proves people have not double dipped, dont the GCs have to work with the TCs to get informaiton from our land regsitry offices, how does this actually work? and dont you think it is discriminative as GC still cliam the island is one whole which they represent and exchanged land is null and void?

The RoC attitude on the property issue of UK residents is strictly controlled. They (the TCs have to prove that they have lived in the UK continually since before the events of 1974. You must show evidence of this (paid NI contributions ,salary slips -continuous). Some have tried and failed because they have 'lived' in Cyprus (even for short periods). Some have been 'double-dippers' as well. The RoC have ways to check the authentic cases as it has been proven in the past that fraudulent cases have appeared.

Do you support the GC stance on property? that TCs have to live in the south for 6 months in order to earn a right to claim their property through Gc courts???

I see no other choice under the circumstances. Allowing all TCs (those already resident in the North) the right to claim their properties in the south
would be a nightmare for the Legal RoC Land Registry. How do you suppose they would be able to cope with the 'double dipping'.

Defintely not; I do not support that they live in the RoC for 6 months. Perhaps it is their way of minimising 'double dipping', but then that does not make sense either. I think that rule is there to dam up the floodgates of TC claimants. The Land Registry cant cope as it is. You are aware of the backlog. BTW, I have also discovered my property rights on land I never knew existed (RoC Land Registry). The kochans awere still under the name of my greatgrandmother. Now they have reverted to me.

That says we assume you are guilty and this is what you have to do if you want to prove your innocence. First of all that is no proof of innocence and secondly it goes against any justice system. The GCs can't have it both ways.
Its plain and simple fruking wrong. Please excuse my french.

Yfred, when I do on-line banking, I have to prove who I am and what I am before any transaction can take place.

The RoC have to prevent fraud, as they will become unstuck.

That's because you are on line and all it takes is the password you offered. The two can't be compared. All they have to do is ask the UN to supply the info from the TRNC. Who has been given what. At least try to make an effort to help the tc who have not esdegered. It aint that diffuclt to do instead of the policy they have which should be illegal under any law.

.

Lets hope something on that line happens so the rights of TC refugees are met. You and Oracle are one of a kind........so so...I forgot what I was going to say now.

Deniz, don't say things like that please. She diplays everything I despise in a human. Am I as bad as her in that respect, because if I am then I have failed miserably in this life but unlike her I don't believe in the next one.

[denizaksulu]

If this woman lives in the UK and she does not live or profit from illegally acquired property in the occupied part of Cyprus then she should be given her own property back immediately.

I believe that this part of the Cyprus Problem should be solved in the courts, in the ECHR if needed, so every Cypriot gets his own property back and is allowed to live in it and enjoy it in peace.

Some said that the Cyprus problem is political and not legal. I disagree. I believe that many aspects of the Cyprus problem are legal, and that solving these legal problems will also force a correct political solution that will not come at the expense of the legal, human or democratic rights of any Cypriot citizen.

There are many TCs that reside in the UK that have tried to cliam their properties in the GC south only to be turned away saying the bankrupt guardian will not pay out or return property until a solution have been found. Maybe Piratis you can explain to us how living in the south for 6 month proves people have not double dipped, dont the GCs have to work with the TCs to get informaiton from our land regsitry offices, how does this actually work? and dont you think it is discriminative as GC still cliam the island is one whole which they represent and exchanged land is null and void?

The RoC attitude on the property issue of UK residents is strictly controlled. They (the TCs have to prove that they have lived in the UK continually since before the events of 1974. You must show evidence of this (paid NI contributions ,salary slips -continuous). Some have tried and failed because they have 'lived' in Cyprus (even for short periods). Some have been 'double-dippers' as well. The RoC have ways to check the authentic cases as it has been proven in the past that fraudulent cases have appeared.

Do you support the GC stance on property? that TCs have to live in the south for 6 months in order to earn a right to claim their property through Gc courts???

I see no other choice under the circumstances. Allowing all TCs (those already resident in the North) the right to claim their properties in the south
would be a nightmare for the Legal RoC Land Registry. How do you suppose they would be able to cope with the 'double dipping'.

Defintely not; I do not support that they live in the RoC for 6 months. Perhaps it is their way of minimising 'double dipping', but then that does not make sense either. I think that rule is there to dam up the floodgates of TC claimants. The Land Registry cant cope as it is. You are aware of the backlog. BTW, I have also discovered my property rights on land I never knew existed (RoC Land Registry). The kochans awere still under the name of my greatgrandmother. Now they have reverted to me.

That says we assume you are guilty and this is what you have to do if you want to prove your innocence. First of all that is no proof of innocence and secondly it goes against any justice system. The GCs can't have it both ways.
Its plain and simple fruking wrong. Please excuse my french.

Yfred, when I do on-line banking, I have to prove who I am and what I am before any transaction can take place.

The RoC have to prevent fraud, as they will become unstuck.

That's because you are on line and all it takes is the password you offered. The two can't be compared. All they have to do is ask the UN to supply the info from the TRNC. Who has been given what. At least try to make an effort to help the tc who have not esdegered. It aint that diffuclt to do instead of the policy they have which should be illegal under any law.

.

Lets hope something on that line happens so the rights of TC refugees are met. You and Oracle are one of a kind........so so...I forgot what I was going to say now.

Deniz, don't say things like that please. She diplays everything I despise in a human. Am I as bad as her in that respect, because if I am then I have failed miserably in this life but unlike her I don't believe in the next one.

I am sorry for hurting your feelings Tfredo.

[Viewpoint]

If this woman lives in the UK and she does not live or profit from illegally acquired property in the occupied part of Cyprus then she should be given her own property back immediately.

I believe that this part of the Cyprus Problem should be solved in the courts, in the ECHR if needed, so every Cypriot gets his own property back and is allowed to live in it and enjoy it in peace.

Some said that the Cyprus problem is political and not legal. I disagree. I believe that many aspects of the Cyprus problem are legal, and that solving these legal problems will also force a correct political solution that will not come at the expense of the legal, human or democratic rights of any Cypriot citizen.

There are many TCs that reside in the UK that have tried to cliam their properties in the GC south only to be turned away saying the bankrupt guardian will not pay out or return property until a solution have been found. Maybe Piratis you can explain to us how living in the south for 6 month proves people have not double dipped, dont the GCs have to work with the TCs to get informaiton from our land regsitry offices, how does this actually work? and dont you think it is discriminative as GC still cliam the island is one whole which they represent and exchanged land is null and void?

The RoC attitude on the property issue of UK residents is strictly controlled. They (the TCs have to prove that they have lived in the UK continually since before the events of 1974. You must show evidence of this (paid NI contributions ,salary slips -continuous). Some have tried and failed because they have 'lived' in Cyprus (even for short periods). Some have been 'double-dippers' as well. The RoC have ways to check the authentic cases as it has been proven in the past that fraudulent cases have appeared.

Do you support the GC stance on property? that TCs have to live in the south for 6 months in order to earn a right to claim their property through Gc courts???

I see no other choice under the circumstances. Allowing all TCs (those already resident in the North) the right to claim their properties in the south
would be a nightmare for the Legal RoC Land Registry. How do you suppose they would be able to cope with the 'double dipping'.

Defintely not; I do not support that they live in the RoC for 6 months. Perhaps it is their way of minimising 'double dipping', but then that does not make sense either. I think that rule is there to dam up the floodgates of TC claimants. The Land Registry cant cope as it is. You are aware of the backlog. BTW, I have also discovered my property rights on land I never knew existed (RoC Land Registry). The kochans awere still under the name of my greatgrandmother. Now they have reverted to me.

You are very naive as this is clearly a GC ploy to stop TCs from claiming their land in the south. They have noway of checking for double dipping and this court case will prove that they are discrimiating against TCs who reside north of the island when on the other hand they do not recognize the exchanges in the north which makes double dipping itself null and void, bloody hypocrites.

[denizaksulu]

If this woman lives in the UK and she does not live or profit from illegally acquired property in the occupied part of Cyprus then she should be given her own property back immediately.

I believe that this part of the Cyprus Problem should be solved in the courts, in the ECHR if needed, so every Cypriot gets his own property back and is allowed to live in it and enjoy it in peace.

Some said that the Cyprus problem is political and not legal. I disagree. I believe that many aspects of the Cyprus problem are legal, and that solving these legal problems will also force a correct political solution that will not come at the expense of the legal, human or democratic rights of any Cypriot citizen.

There are many TCs that reside in the UK that have tried to cliam their properties in the GC south only to be turned away saying the bankrupt guardian will not pay out or return property until a solution have been found. Maybe Piratis you can explain to us how living in the south for 6 month proves people have not double dipped, dont the GCs have to work with the TCs to get informaiton from our land regsitry offices, how does this actually work? and dont you think it is discriminative as GC still cliam the island is one whole which they represent and exchanged land is null and void?

The RoC attitude on the property issue of UK residents is strictly controlled. They (the TCs have to prove that they have lived in the UK continually since before the events of 1974. You must show evidence of this (paid NI contributions ,salary slips -continuous). Some have tried and failed because they have 'lived' in Cyprus (even for short periods). Some have been 'double-dippers' as well. The RoC have ways to check the authentic cases as it has been proven in the past that fraudulent cases have appeared.

Do you support the GC stance on property? that TCs have to live in the south for 6 months in order to earn a right to claim their property through Gc courts???

I see no other choice under the circumstances. Allowing all TCs (those already resident in the North) the right to claim their properties in the south
would be a nightmare for the Legal RoC Land Registry. How do you suppose they would be able to cope with the 'double dipping'.

Defintely not; I do not support that they live in the RoC for 6 months. Perhaps it is their way of minimising 'double dipping', but then that does not make sense either. I think that rule is there to dam up the floodgates of TC claimants. The Land Registry cant cope as it is. You are aware of the backlog. BTW, I have also discovered my property rights on land I never knew existed (RoC Land Registry). The kochans awere still under the name of my greatgrandmother. Now they have reverted to me.

You are very naive as this is clearly a GC ploy to stop TCs from claiming their land in the south. They have noway of checking for double dipping and this court case will prove that they are discrimiating against TCs who reside north of the island when on the other hand they do not recognize the exchanges in the north which makes double dipping itself null and void, bloody hypocrites.

Their intentions may not be whiter than white, but what can one do. Wait for the negotiations to come to a satisfactory conclusion is the only answer for the mo - unless the EU or ECHS/ECJ, UN can exert enough pressure on the RoC. Perhaps some give and take to relax the restrictions.

[Viewpoint]

We have to play the Gcs at their own game and take them to court and get compensation our properties back. This first case will remove the 6month discrimination they there will be a flood of applications mine included.

[denizaksulu]

We have to play the Gcs at their own game and take them to court and get compensation our properties back. This first case will remove the 6month discrimination they there will be a flood of applications mine included.

Good luck VP.

[Piratis]

If this woman lives in the UK and she does not live or profit from illegally acquired property in the occupied part of Cyprus then she should be given her own property back immediately.

I believe that this part of the Cyprus Problem should be solved in the courts, in the ECHR if needed, so every Cypriot gets his own property back and is allowed to live in it and enjoy it in peace.

Some said that the Cyprus problem is political and not legal. I disagree. I believe that many aspects of the Cyprus problem are legal, and that solving these legal problems will also force a correct political solution that will not come at the expense of the legal, human or democratic rights of any Cypriot citizen.

There are many TCs that reside in the UK that have tried to cliam their properties in the GC south only to be turned away saying the bankrupt guardian will not pay out or return property until a solution have been found. Maybe Piratis you can explain to us how living in the south for 6 month proves people have not double dipped, dont the GCs have to work with the TCs to get informaiton from our land regsitry offices, how does this actually work? and dont you think it is discriminative as GC still cliam the island is one whole which they represent and exchanged land is null and void?

The RoC attitude on the property issue of UK residents is strictly controlled. They (the TCs have to prove that they have lived in the UK continually since before the events of 1974. You must show evidence of this (paid NI contributions ,salary slips -continuous). Some have tried and failed because they have 'lived' in Cyprus (even for short periods). Some have been 'double-dippers' as well. The RoC have ways to check the authentic cases as it has been proven in the past that fraudulent cases have appeared.

Do you support the GC stance on property? that TCs have to live in the south for 6 months in order to earn a right to claim their property through Gc courts???

I see no other choice under the circumstances. Allowing all TCs (those already resident in the North) the right to claim their properties in the south
would be a nightmare for the Legal RoC Land Registry. How do you suppose they would be able to cope with the 'double dipping'.

Defintely not; I do not support that they live in the RoC for 6 months. Perhaps it is their way of minimising 'double dipping', but then that does not make sense either. I think that rule is there to dam up the floodgates of TC claimants. The Land Registry cant cope as it is. You are aware of the backlog. BTW, I have also discovered my property rights on land I never knew existed (RoC Land Registry). The kochans awere still under the name of my greatgrandmother. Now they have reverted to me.

You are very naive as this is clearly a GC ploy to stop TCs from claiming their land in the south. They have noway of checking for double dipping and this court case will prove that they are discrimiating against TCs who reside north of the island when on the other hand they do not recognize the exchanges in the north which makes double dipping itself null and void, bloody hypocrites.

The hypocrite is none else than you. You support that there is a "TC North" and "GC South", you support the illegal "trnc" and partition which is the sole reason why people can not live in their own homes, you the biggest hypocrite in here.

How about this VP: All GCs get all their land back and all TCs get all their land back as well, right away and with no excuses. Do you agree Mr. Hypocrite?

Double dipping is illegal but it is not "null and void" since you are illegally doing it.