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Postby RAFAELLA » Sat Dec 05, 2009 11:24 am

Egemen Bagis cites what Europeans should take into consideration when evaluating Turkey’s EU obligations

Turkish daily Hurriyet newspaper (02.12.09) reports on statements of the Turkish State Minister and chief EU negotiator, Mr Egemen Bagis, on board a plane as he was travelling to the Swedish capital of Stockholm, which will hold the rotating EU presidency until January. Inter alia, Mr Bagis referred to Cyprus and said: “The EU summit will take place between December 10 and 11. Turkey supported the Annan Plan. Turkey supported the coming-together of Talat and Christofias. The promises towards the Turkish citizens of North Cyprus who gave a positive response to the calls of EU for the Annan Plan were not kept. An opportunity for resolution should be given until the end of [Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali] Talat’s term, that is in April.”

“If the EU makes a decision that will exclude Turkey with a population of 70 million just to appease 600,000 Greek Cypriots, if it chooses to exclude the young population in Turkey, which transports 70 percent of [the EU’s] energy demand, if it makes a decision that ignores its ally, which is the most important supporter of EU’s fight against drugs and terrorism and which has the second-largest army in NATO, we will continue on our path without EU membership,” Bagis said. “EU is not a sine qua non for us,” he added.
(EA) http://www.moi.gov.cy/moi/pio/pio.nsf/A ... enDocument

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Postby Jerry » Sat Dec 05, 2009 11:36 am

Hey Bagshit, I've re-written your speech for you.

If Turkey makes a decision that will exclude Turkey with a population of 70 million just to appease 100,000 Turkish Cypriots, if we choose to exclude the young population in Turkey, which transports 70 percent of [the EU’s] energy demand, we will cut you off, if you make a decision that ignores your ally, which is the most important supplier of EU’s drugs and terrorism and which has the second-largest army in NATO, we will continue on our path without EU membership,” Bagis said. “EU will suffer if it does not submit tour terms."
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Postby Malapapa » Sat Dec 05, 2009 12:08 pm

RAFAELLA wrote:“If the EU makes a decision that will exclude Turkey with a population of 70 million just to appease 600,000 Greek Cypriots, if it chooses to exclude the young population in Turkey, which transports 70 percent of [the EU’s] energy demand, if it makes a decision that ignores its ally, which is the most important supporter of EU’s fight against drugs and terrorism and which has the second-largest army in NATO, we will continue on our path without EU membership,” Bagis said. “EU is not a sine qua non for us,” he added.


What a fine way to demonstrate your EU credentials. And then Turkey's chief EU "negotiator" has the gall to quote in Latin.
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Postby B25 » Sat Dec 05, 2009 12:17 pm

Malapapa wrote:
RAFAELLA wrote:“If the EU makes a decision that will exclude Turkey with a population of 70 million just to appease 600,000 Greek Cypriots, if it chooses to exclude the young population in Turkey, which transports 70 percent of [the EU’s] energy demand, if it makes a decision that ignores its ally, which is the most important supporter of EU’s fight against drugs and terrorism and which has the second-largest army in NATO, we will continue on our path without EU membership,” Bagis said. “EU is not a sine qua non for us,” he added.


What a fine way to demonstrate your EU credentials. And then Turkey's chief EU "negotiator" has the gall to quote in Latin.


MP, this is just typical arrogant Turkey talk again, either take me in on my terms, or you are all f*cked.

If you were the EU, would you stand for such bully boy and blackmail tactics???

And they say we are the intransigent ones, Phuccking heck, these people have a nerve.
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Postby Malapapa » Sat Dec 05, 2009 1:16 pm

B25 wrote:MP, this is just typical arrogant Turkey talk again, either take me in on my terms, or you are all f*cked.

If you were the EU, would you stand for such bully boy and blackmail tactics???

And they say we are the intransigent ones, Phuccking heck, these people have a nerve.



Thing is B25, what this Bag-of-shit fails to realise is we (the Cypriots) are the EU now.

What gets me is these bully boy/blackmail tactics comes from the 'chief' negotiator.

If he's the chief then what do the trainees do. Use thumb screws? Put guns to people's heads?
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Postby insan » Sat Dec 05, 2009 1:54 pm

Malapapa wrote:
B25 wrote:MP, this is just typical arrogant Turkey talk again, either take me in on my terms, or you are all f*cked.

If you were the EU, would you stand for such bully boy and blackmail tactics???

And they say we are the intransigent ones, Phuccking heck, these people have a nerve.



Thing is B25, what this Bag-of-shit fails to realise is we (the Cypriots) are the EU now.

What gets me is these bully boy/blackmail tactics comes from the 'chief' negotiator.

If he's the chief then what do the trainees do. Use thumb screws? Put guns to people's heads?


U r being ridiculous... :lol: When Chris or any EU official "blackmail" Turkey, u applaud and cheer it; when Turkish officials "blackmail" EU or GC administration u feel angry... isn't it just ridiculous? :lol:
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Postby Malapapa » Sat Dec 05, 2009 2:03 pm

insan wrote:
U r being ridiculous... :lol: When Chris or any EU official "blackmail" Turkey, u applaud and cheer it;


Come down from Planet insan for just one moment and tell me when has Chris/EU ever blackmailed Turkey? Provide clear examples and links.

And insisting Turkey abide by EU rules before progress can be made towards membership does not constitute blackmail.
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Dec 05, 2009 2:36 pm

RAFAELLA wrote:“If the EU makes a decision that will exclude Turkey with a population of 70 million just to appease 600,000 Greek Cypriots,

That's roughly 166 Turks to one Greek Cypriot... still not enough. :? You need at least 1,000 Turks to match a GC.

...if it chooses to exclude the young population in Turkey, which transports 70 percent of [the EU’s] energy demand,

That's not YOUR energy being transported, and there are three different routes for this energy to travel through so do not assume a monopoly or overestimate your worth! :lol:

...if it makes a decision that ignores its ally, which is the most important supporter of EU’s fight against drugs and terrorism

You are the Asian hub of drugs and terrorism that enters the EU! :lol:

...and which has the second-largest army in NATO,

It's just a conventional army of uneducated Turkish hillbillies! :lol:
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Postby Oracle » Sat Dec 05, 2009 3:00 pm

Turkey cautions against fresh EU sanctions

By Tony Barber in Brussels

Published: December 4 2009 02:00 | Last updated: December 4 2009 02:00

Turkey warned yesterday that its European Union membership talks could be damaged irreparably if EU leaders imposed new sanctions next week in retaliation for Ankara's refusal to open its ports and airports to Greek Cypriot traffic.

"There are already too many sanctions on Turkey because of Cyprus," said Egemen Bagis, Turkey's chief EU negotiator. "Any additional sanctions will kill the motivation of my leaders towards the EU."

Greek Cypriot-controlled Cyprus is pressing its 26 fellow EU member states to tighten measures against Turkey for failing to abide by the so-called Ankara protocol, a 2004 EU-Turkish agreement that Turkey would open direct transport links with the Greek Cypriots in return for launching EU membership talks.

EU governments agreed in 2006 to freeze eight of the 35 negotiating chapters, that Turkey needs to conclude to join the EU.

EU leaders will meet in Brussels late next week to decide a course of action. The bloc is divided between countries that support Turkey's EU aspirations, such as Sweden and the UK, and others, such as Austria and France, who do not want Turkey as a full member.

Many EU governments see it as inadvisable to impose new sanctions on Turkey with talks on a

settlement between Greek Cypriot and Turkish Cypriot leaders, which began in September 2008, entering their most delicate phase.

Mr Bagis, speaking at a meeting of the European Policy Centre, a Brussels-based think-think, supported that position, saying: "Any attempt to derail these efforts would not serve anyone's purpose."

Turkey's EU accession talks started in 2005 but have made increasingly slow progress. Eleven chapters have been opened so far, and a 12th - dealing with environment policy - may be opened this month.

But as the prospect of early EU entry has faded, so Turkish public opinion has become less enthusiastic about membership. Moreover, Turkey's ruling Justice and Development party, which has its roots in political Islam, has broadened its foreign policy to make EU relations less of apriority.

Mr Bagis said Turkey was willing to open its ports and airports as soon as the isolation of northern Cyprus was stopped.

Turkey has refused to honour the Ankara protocol on the grounds that the EU reneged on a promise to end the isolation of northern Cyprus, where Turkish Cypriots declared an independent state in 1983, which is recognised by Turkey alone.

Mr Bagis dismissed concerns that Turkey's relations with the EU could be complicated by the fact that Herman Van Rompuy, the EU's new full-time president, once gave a speech as a Belgian opposition politician ruling out Turkish membership of the EU.

"We have a saying in Turkish: 'the head that wears the crown gets wiser'," Mr Bagis said. He fancies himself as a Queen :lol:

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Postby Malapapa » Sat Dec 05, 2009 3:14 pm

Tony Barber in Brussels wrote:Mr Bagis said Turkey was willing to open its ports and airports as soon as the isolation of northern Cyprus was stopped.


The isolation of northern Cyprus will stop as soon as Turkey's army withdraws from there. What is this Bag-of-shit's problem?
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