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[wallace]

Blackmail as in if you dont take the divided and problematic Cyprus into the EU will block the other waiting states. The EU deserve what they have which is a hot patatoe they will grow to hate over the many years they will be faced with all the extra problems the Cyprus thorn will cause its only been a few years, in 10 years time and with still no solution the EU will ignore the GCs completely slapping them in place when they complain or start to object.

How could the RoC blackmail anyone, let alone the EU, when they were only a EU candidate and not a EU member in 2004, therefore, how can the EU punish the RoC for anything now or in the future.??

Greece did her bidding and you know ull well how things really panned out, can the EU throw states out of the EU?

Theoretically yes but it will not happen.

[Malapapa]

In 2004 Greece and RoC colluded for RoC entry into EU by threatening to block EU expansion. The deal was - solve the Cyprus problem before you get in.

Now you see vaughan, the deal you describe above would have been blackmail. Compromise with Turkey; accept her desires to partition the island, or no entry. Clear blackmail.

That wasn't done but you blackmailed your way in anyway.

No you've got it the wrong. Cyprus achieved all the accession criteria. There was no justifiable reason not to accept her. That Turkey still occupied the north was not Cyprus's fault. This was the argument that was made successfully, with Greece and Britain's support. And really, the EU had no choice but to accept this; or be seen to go against its own principles.

You know it, Turkey knows it and the EU knows it. Don't think anyone has forgotten it and that it may not yet bite you on your arse.

Bollocks. You choose to believe this myth because it eases your guilty conscience. Turkey chooses to perpetuate this myth for consumption by its illiterate populous to hide her own foreign policy inadequacies. And the EU? Cyprus is the EU and the EU is Cyprus. And don't you forget it.

[Kikapu]

Blackmail as in if you dont take the divided and problematic Cyprus into the EU will block the other waiting states. The EU deserve what they have which is a hot patatoe they will grow to hate over the many years they will be faced with all the extra problems the Cyprus thorn will cause its only been a few years, in 10 years time and with still no solution the EU will ignore the GCs completely slapping them in place when they complain or start to object.

How could the RoC blackmail anyone, let alone the EU, when they were only a EU candidate and not a EU member in 2004, therefore, how can the EU punish the RoC for anything now or in the future.??

Greece did her bidding and you know ull well how things really panned out, can the EU throw states out of the EU?

Therefore it is Greece that the EU should be upset with and not the RoC if in fact everything happened as you claimed, but after 5 years on, Greece is still a EU member and so its the RoC, so where is the EU's patience running low with either one of those two countries. Did you ever stop and think that perhaps EU wanted the RoC in the Union despite the present and past problem just to have enough excuse to keep Turkey out of the EU as long as possible and perhaps for ever by using Turkey's occupation of an EU territory as an excuse. Even though this may not be a welcomed outcome for the GCs in the short term, despite enjoying the fruits of the EU membership in other areas, the TCs and Turkey are the biggest losers in the short term and increasingly on the long term also, if and when the EU and Turkey decide go their separate ways. If that were to happen, don't be too surprised further military conflicts taking place to settle the Cyprus problems once and for all.!

I don't know if the EU can throw any state out and if so, how is that mechanism arranged. The fact that Greece and Cyprus are still in the EU despite your claimed "blackmailing of the EU", they are both there. If that were not enough to boot them both out, what does one need to do to be kicked out of the EU. You tell me, VP.!

[Viewpoint]

Blackmail as in if you dont take the divided and problematic Cyprus into the EU will block the other waiting states. The EU deserve what they have which is a hot patatoe they will grow to hate over the many years they will be faced with all the extra problems the Cyprus thorn will cause its only been a few years, in 10 years time and with still no solution the EU will ignore the GCs completely slapping them in place when they complain or start to object.

How could the RoC blackmail anyone, let alone the EU, when they were only a EU candidate and not a EU member in 2004, therefore, how can the EU punish the RoC for anything now or in the future.??

Greece did her bidding and you know ull well how things really panned out, can the EU throw states out of the EU?

Therefore it is Greece that the EU should be upset with and not the RoC if in fact everything happened as you claimed, but after 5 years on, Greece is still a EU member and so its the RoC, so where is the EU's patience running low with either one of those two countries. Did you ever stop and think that perhaps EU wanted the RoC in the Union despite the present and past problem just to have enough excuse to keep Turkey out of the EU as long as possible and perhaps for ever by using Turkey's occupation of an EU territory as an excuse. Even though this may not be a welcomed outcome for the GCs in the short term, despite enjoying the fruits of the EU membership in other areas, the TCs and Turkey are the biggest losers in the short term and increasingly on the long term also, if and when the EU and Turkey decide go their separate ways. If that were to happen, don't be too surprised further military conflicts taking place to settle the Cyprus problems once and for all.!

I don't know if the EU can throw any state out and if so, how is that mechanism arranged. The fact that Greece and Cyprus are still in the EU despite your claimed "blackmailing of the EU", they are both there. If that were not enough to boot them both out, what does one need to do to be kicked out of the EU. You tell me, VP.!

Their day will come and when you least expect it the EU will slap them hard for their past actions especially when it comes to Turkey, you watch next week how the EU will do shit all against Turkey thats a real slap in the face of the GCs and the lack of support stems from their blackmail tactics and lack of trust that they really want a solution, as the years go by without a solution the burden will get heavier and heavier for the EU and the GCs will be totally ignored as EU member will have seen what they are like, spoilt brats of the middle east, geographically not even in Europe. Their time will come you mark my words and we will talk about this again.

[Get Real!]

In 2004 Greece and RoC colluded for RoC entry into EU by threatening to block EU expansion. The deal was - solve the Cyprus problem before you get in. That wasn't done but you blackmailed your way in anyway. You know it, Turkey knows it and the EU knows it. Don't think anyone has forgotten it and that it may not yet bite you on your arse.

Why don’t you start a new thread to present and prove your allegations?

[Oracle]

... Their day will come and when you least expect it the EU will slap them hard for their past actions especially when it comes to Turkey, .

So why does France conduct joint Military manoeuvres with Cyprus and Greece in the Eastern Mediterranean? Who wants Turkey to stay out of the EU more than France (oh yeah, the other EU-superpower Germany). Both Germany and France realise Greece and Cyprus are the EU-Borders to Turkey and the ONE way to attack the Turks! Why would they boot them out of the EU, monkeybrain?

CYPRUS AND FRANCE SIGN MILITARY COOPERATION DEAL

... Cyprus and France signed a comprehensive military cooperation accord covering joint manoeuvres and military training, officials in Nicosia and Paris said, drawing condemnation from Turkey.

The deal between the two EU members was signed in the French capital by Cypriot Foreign Minister George Lillikas and French Defence Minister Michele Alliot-Marie ...

"We are often faced with common dangers, such as terrorism which concerns all European countries and which we have to tackle," the statement quoted Alliot-Marie as saying at the signing ceremony.

""This situation was one in which we saw military cooperation between the two countries increase," she said.

Turkey immediately denounced the accord, saying it would undermine international efforts to resolve the three-decade Cyprus conflict.

The foreign ministry in Ankara described the accord as "worrying".

Source: PSEKA