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Why did Turkey ethnically cleanse towns where no Turks lived

Postby SKI-preo » Fri Dec 04, 2009 4:49 am

In villages and towns in the Kyrenia District Turkey ethnically cleansed the entire population. Turkish Cypriots never lived in some of these towns and yet Turkey opted to ethnically cleanse these towns claiming that by doing this the Turkish Cypriots would be protected. Which Turkish Cypriots were being protected if there were no Turkish Cypriots there ever? My view is that the towns are in a more strategic location than areas Turkish Cypriot lived and it would be easy to simply drop napalm bombs in all Greek villages and towns as only they would be blown up burned alive. The Turkish Cypriots were in other villages drinking coffee and lemonade.
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Re: Why did Turkey ethnically cleanse towns where no Turks l

Postby Expatkiwi » Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:41 am

SKI-preo wrote:In villages and towns in the Kyrenia District Turkey ethnically cleansed the entire population. Turkish Cypriots never lived in some of these towns and yet Turkey opted to ethnically cleanse these towns claiming that by doing this the Turkish Cypriots would be protected. Which Turkish Cypriots were being protected if there were no Turkish Cypriots there ever? My view is that the towns are in a more strategic location than areas Turkish Cypriot lived and it would be easy to simply drop napalm bombs in all Greek villages and towns as only they would be blown up burned alive. The Turkish Cypriots were in other villages drinking coffee and lemonade.


This may come as a shock to you, Ski-pro, but I don't support ethnic cleansing, and there were such excesses done by Turkish Troops in the aftermath of the 1974 Intervention. The justifications - obsensively stated - used the precedent of the Sudaten Germans in Czechoslovakia. Turkey - and I do believe this - did intervene to come to the aid of the Turkish Cypriots, but once esconsed, did do a number of distasteful things. Of course, since similar 'distasteful things - were done to the Turkish Cypriots between 1963 and 1974 at the hands of the Greek Cypriots, I can draw the conclusion that neither side can claim to be squeeky clean here.
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Re: Why did Turkey ethnically cleanse towns where no Turks l

Postby Piratis » Fri Dec 04, 2009 7:41 am

SKI-preo wrote:In villages and towns in the Kyrenia District Turkey ethnically cleansed the entire population. Turkish Cypriots never lived in some of these towns and yet Turkey opted to ethnically cleanse these towns claiming that by doing this the Turkish Cypriots would be protected. Which Turkish Cypriots were being protected if there were no Turkish Cypriots there ever? My view is that the towns are in a more strategic location than areas Turkish Cypriot lived and it would be easy to simply drop napalm bombs in all Greek villages and towns as only they would be blown up burned alive. The Turkish Cypriots were in other villages drinking coffee and lemonade.


The ethnic cleansing was part of the initial partition plan that the Turks created in the 50s. You can't have a "Turkish Republic" with a population of 82% GCs and just 18% TCs, right?

That is why ethnic cleansing was required by the partition plan. Forcing innocent and unarmed men, women and children out of their homes has absolutely nothing to do with "protecting the TCs". In fact in 1974 no TC was killed until the Turkish invasion started. The TC casualties in 74 (a few 100s) came only after the Turks and TCs started to kill innocent GCs by the 1000s.
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Re: Why did Turkey ethnically cleanse towns where no Turks l

Postby Oracle » Fri Dec 04, 2009 12:32 pm

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SKI-preo wrote:In villages and towns in the Kyrenia District Turkey ethnically cleansed the entire population. Turkish Cypriots never lived in some of these towns and yet Turkey opted to ethnically cleanse these towns claiming that by doing this the Turkish Cypriots would be protected. Which Turkish Cypriots were being protected if there were no Turkish Cypriots there ever? My view is that the towns are in a more strategic location than areas Turkish Cypriot lived and it would be easy to simply drop napalm bombs in all Greek villages and towns as only they would be blown up burned alive. The Turkish Cypriots were in other villages drinking coffee and lemonade.


This may come as a shock to you, Ski-pro, but I don't support ethnic cleansing,


Oh yes, you do!
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Re: Why did Turkey ethnically cleanse towns where no Turks l

Postby insan » Fri Dec 04, 2009 12:46 pm

SKI-preo wrote:In villages and towns in the Kyrenia District Turkey ethnically cleansed the entire population. Turkish Cypriots never lived in some of these towns and yet Turkey opted to ethnically cleanse these towns claiming that by doing this the Turkish Cypriots would be protected. Which Turkish Cypriots were being protected if there were no Turkish Cypriots there ever? My view is that the towns are in a more strategic location than areas Turkish Cypriot lived and it would be easy to simply drop napalm bombs in all Greek villages and towns as only they would be blown up burned alive. The Turkish Cypriots were in other villages drinking coffee and lemonade.


Turkish troops faced an unexpected counter attack from 40.000 armed GCs. According to CIA report 1973-1976, even many kids over 12 were armed to fight against Turkish troops.

The most important reason of why Turkish troops "ethnically cleansed" the Northern Cyprus is the uncertainity of what GC-Greek side would do.

Sampson resigned but irregulars of EOKA-B were still active and threatening with guerilla warfare.

Then Foreign Minister of Turkey asked the then Foreign Minister of Greece the withdrawal of regular and irregular troops of Greeks and GCs out of the villages TCs live but he didn't accept... he further stated that he couldn't control irregulars of EOKA-B... The EOKA-B that noone could dare to touch for 3 long years following the events of 1974.

Turkey and TC leadership had many question marks and doubts in minds regarding what the intentions of Greek side could be.

Moreover, EOKA-B was still also threatening Makarios not to return Cyprus or if he would return; he had to accept the pre-conditions of EOKA-B, otherwise they were threatening to start a civil war in GC community.

Under such uncertain, doubtful and hostile circimstances that also fed by all the previous troubles TCs/Turks experienced with Greeks and GCs; there was nothing convincing the TCs and Turks that a unitary state with a mixed population had any future without blood shed and inter communal strife.

U can read all the details day by day, minute by minute from the below link:

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/96610.pdf
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Re: Why did Turkey ethnically cleanse towns where no Turks l

Postby DT. » Fri Dec 04, 2009 12:49 pm

insan wrote:
SKI-preo wrote:In villages and towns in the Kyrenia District Turkey ethnically cleansed the entire population. Turkish Cypriots never lived in some of these towns and yet Turkey opted to ethnically cleanse these towns claiming that by doing this the Turkish Cypriots would be protected. Which Turkish Cypriots were being protected if there were no Turkish Cypriots there ever? My view is that the towns are in a more strategic location than areas Turkish Cypriot lived and it would be easy to simply drop napalm bombs in all Greek villages and towns as only they would be blown up burned alive. The Turkish Cypriots were in other villages drinking coffee and lemonade.


Turkish troops faced an unexpected counter attack from 40.000 armed GCs. According to CIA report 1973-1976, even many kids over 12 were armed to fight against Turkish troops.

The most important reason of why Turkish troops "ethnically cleansed" the Northern Cyprus is the uncertainity of what GC-Greek side would do.

Sampson resigned but irregulars of EOKA-B were still active and threatening with guerilla warfare.

Then Foreign Minister of Turkey asked the then Foreign Minister of Greece the withdrawal of regular and irregular troops of Greeks and GCs out of the villages TCs live but he didn't accept... he further stated that he couldn't control irregulars of EOKA-B... The EOKA-B that noone could dare to touch for 3 long years following the events of 1974.

Turkey and TC leadership had many question marks and doubts in minds regarding what the intentions of Greek side could be.

Moreover, EOKA-B was still also threatening Makarios not to return Cyprus or if he would return; he had to accept the pre-conditions of EOKA-B, otherwise they were threatening to start a civil war in GC community.

Under such uncertain, doubtful and hostile circimstances that also fed by all the previous troubles TCs/Turks experienced with Greeks and GCs; there was nothing convincing the TCs and Turks that a unitary state with a mixed population had any future without blood shed and inter communal strife.

U can read all the details day by day, minute by minute from the below link:

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/96610.pdf


where's this CIA report Insan?
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Re: Why did Turkey ethnically cleanse towns where no Turks l

Postby insan » Fri Dec 04, 2009 12:51 pm

DT. wrote:
insan wrote:
SKI-preo wrote:In villages and towns in the Kyrenia District Turkey ethnically cleansed the entire population. Turkish Cypriots never lived in some of these towns and yet Turkey opted to ethnically cleanse these towns claiming that by doing this the Turkish Cypriots would be protected. Which Turkish Cypriots were being protected if there were no Turkish Cypriots there ever? My view is that the towns are in a more strategic location than areas Turkish Cypriot lived and it would be easy to simply drop napalm bombs in all Greek villages and towns as only they would be blown up burned alive. The Turkish Cypriots were in other villages drinking coffee and lemonade.


Turkish troops faced an unexpected counter attack from 40.000 armed GCs. According to CIA report 1973-1976, even many kids over 12 were armed to fight against Turkish troops.

The most important reason of why Turkish troops "ethnically cleansed" the Northern Cyprus is the uncertainity of what GC-Greek side would do.

Sampson resigned but irregulars of EOKA-B were still active and threatening with guerilla warfare.

Then Foreign Minister of Turkey asked the then Foreign Minister of Greece the withdrawal of regular and irregular troops of Greeks and GCs out of the villages TCs live but he didn't accept... he further stated that he couldn't control irregulars of EOKA-B... The EOKA-B that noone could dare to touch for 3 long years following the events of 1974.

Turkey and TC leadership had many question marks and doubts in minds regarding what the intentions of Greek side could be.

Moreover, EOKA-B was still also threatening Makarios not to return Cyprus or if he would return; he had to accept the pre-conditions of EOKA-B, otherwise they were threatening to start a civil war in GC community.

Under such uncertain, doubtful and hostile circimstances that also fed by all the previous troubles TCs/Turks experienced with Greeks and GCs; there was nothing convincing the TCs and Turks that a unitary state with a mixed population had any future without blood shed and inter communal strife.

U can read all the details day by day, minute by minute from the below link:

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/96610.pdf


where's this CIA report Insan?


Is the link invisible?
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Postby halil » Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:46 pm

Some how people are always forget that in Cyprus both sides are signed Population exchange agreement and date was 2nd august 1976. Since than TC's from south moved to North and GC's moved from north to south.

In those days it was the only right way to do what i believe . To protects peoples life from both sides . There were peoples from both sides which were after the revange . No one can say that revange didn't take during 1974 .It did ..... It did from both sides .

source UN Document S/11879
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Postby halil » Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:51 pm

Later on after the population exchange agreement we had Denktash-Makarios agreement between both sides .
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Re: Why did Turkey ethnically cleanse towns where no Turks l

Postby Expatkiwi » Fri Dec 04, 2009 5:33 pm

Oracle wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:
SKI-preo wrote:In villages and towns in the Kyrenia District Turkey ethnically cleansed the entire population. Turkish Cypriots never lived in some of these towns and yet Turkey opted to ethnically cleanse these towns claiming that by doing this the Turkish Cypriots would be protected. Which Turkish Cypriots were being protected if there were no Turkish Cypriots there ever? My view is that the towns are in a more strategic location than areas Turkish Cypriot lived and it would be easy to simply drop napalm bombs in all Greek villages and towns as only they would be blown up burned alive. The Turkish Cypriots were in other villages drinking coffee and lemonade.


This may come as a shock to you, Ski-pro, but I don't support ethnic cleansing,


Oh yes, you do!


So do you, Oracle. Otherwise you wouldn't be spouting all that Turkish Hate on this forum.
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